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Posted on 1/3/09 at 1:51 am to GatorTrunk
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I say that is BS! I have been on West Monroe's turf for over 20 home games and that included games in September and that is a complete MYTH!!! You could not tell a difference...it was hot everywhere, in the air and ground.
actually it's not a myth! I've seen practices on this turf and the heat does rise from the rubber pellets, but i personally wouldn't mind it. I'm all about tradition and i'm sure we could still keep the eye of the tiger on the 50
Posted on 1/3/09 at 1:51 am to AlaTiger
If grass makes our players slower, wouldn't it also make opposing players slower as well? Doesn't it even out?
Posted on 1/3/09 at 1:54 am to xiv
good point, but then again with a guy like Holiday it wouldn't matter how much faster it made our opponents
Posted on 1/3/09 at 1:57 am to theduckman23
for anyone wanting more info here's the about us from the sprint turf website
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Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:34 am to helofixer
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Should We Install Synthetic Turf at Tiger Stadium?
Yes. Tired of looking at green painted dirt half way thru the season. Cant blame the Saints, they havent played here since December of 05, so we cant blame them.
If our AG minded university cant keep a grass field in shape on a consistant basis, then put in the fake stuff. Our climate is brutal on the field. YMMV.
While Miles is cleaning up the coaching staff, the AD needs to clean up the turf crew. Take all the money that would have been spent on Field Turf and HIRE A PROFESSIONAL TURF MANAGER. It's NOT the climate, (Same climate as every other school in the SEC) the grass, (Same grass as on the best field in the SEC at MSU) or the Upper Decks shading the field for too many hours, it's the people taking care of the field that's the problem. Start with Halliburton and work your way down, cleaning house all the way down to the clowns that can't even paint the field correctly. (The field paint job looks like 3rd graders do it with kiddies water colors) Get some professionals in here, pay them a decent salary and the problems should be solved.
Everybody should contact Alleva and demand that this be done or it will be the SOS in 09 and the same old tired excuses from the AD.........
Posted on 1/3/09 at 4:47 am to xiv
quote:In some respects, yes. But the overall slowing of the game benefits more the team with less overall speed. When everyone moves faster, the decision-making has to be faster. This almost always favors the offensive players, who already know what they are going to do, over the defensive players who have to react. So the team with more speed on offense would gain more advantage on a faster surface by putting more pressure on the opposing defense to make even faster decisions. The slower team does not gain as much benefit because even though the opposing defense's reactions have to be faster, they don't have to be as hurried.
If grass makes our players slower, wouldn't it also make opposing players slower as well? Doesn't it even out?
At least, that's the way players explained it to me way back in the old days (late '80s). The technology has improved, but I assume the "fast track" principles are the same.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 6:15 am to AlaTiger
Yes, it is long overdue.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 7:29 am to purpleturtle50
Let's move into the 21st century.
Some "anti-turf" people are thinking of the old astroturf placed right on top of concrete.
Field Turf is a totally different animal and yes, I'd be for it in Tiger Stadium.
Some "anti-turf" people are thinking of the old astroturf placed right on top of concrete.
Field Turf is a totally different animal and yes, I'd be for it in Tiger Stadium.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 7:49 am to AlaTiger
Only after Augusta National installs it for their greens.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 7:54 am to Dijkstra
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Tradition is good, but good god, some of you are willing to give up speed just to say "Oh LSU blah blah tradition blah blah". We're recruiting lightning fast kids, but our field is garbage.
They make an artificial turf that only makes LSU players faster and the other team doesn't gain any? Sweet!
Posted on 1/3/09 at 8:46 am to ByteMe
The grounds crew says that the height of the east and west decks are a real problem. They are so high now that they limit the time that direct sun hits the grass. That limits the growth potential.
Though I'm a fairly strict traditionalist, and would cringe at synthetic turn in Tiger Stadium, it has been looking bad lately. I guess it wouldn't be so bad if they used one of the newer artificial turfs- as long as it didn't increase the risk to the players. The turf should give way instead of ligaments.
Though I'm a fairly strict traditionalist, and would cringe at synthetic turn in Tiger Stadium, it has been looking bad lately. I guess it wouldn't be so bad if they used one of the newer artificial turfs- as long as it didn't increase the risk to the players. The turf should give way instead of ligaments.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 8:56 am to AlaTiger
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Watching the start of the Sugar Bowl, I was just thinking about how we own the Superdome. Then, except for the 2005 SEC Championship Game against Georgia, we have owned the Georgia Dome as well. Would we have even more of a home field advantage if we put some type of synthetic/artifical turf in at Tiger Stadium to take advantage of our speed? The actual turf there is terrible anyway.
What do ya'll think? Pros/cons?
That stuff is really great when it is inside of a dome, because it stays dry. It is also fine for teams like the NE Patriots, Ohio State and Michigan, because the harsh winters take their toll on natural grass in those areas.
Bottom line is this: this is LSU, in the state of Louisiana, with a favorable climate for natural grass. What we really need is a field maintenance crew that can handle the job without fail. My opinion has nothing to do with tradition. If we pay those folks to work with the grass and we spend the $$$ to have a good surface to play on as we are now, then those two things should work hand-in-hand.
Also, we have some games that it is raining like hell and also where there is high humidity. Not sure if anyone on this board has ever been on a FieldTurf field in either of those conditions, but that field is just slick as hell. Yes, higher cleats will negate that issue, but if that is needed then why not just have natural grass in the first place and call it a day...
Posted on 1/3/09 at 9:26 am to TigerOnTheProwl
if we can ever get out turf looking like what the Cotton Bowl had yesterday then we wont need field turf.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 9:28 am to houstontyga
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if we can ever get out turf looking like what the Cotton Bowl had yesterday then we wont need field turf.
My point exactly
If they can do it in Dallas, then they can do it in Baton Rouge. What we really need is a crew that can make it happen.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 9:52 am to TigerOnTheProwl
We just need to move the decks or the sun.
This is gonna be expensive....get TAF on the phone.
I really think that anyone could grow turf if the sun and decks were not some type of issue. It doesnt seem rational that we cant grow grass in Baton Rouge but come on, all you gotta do is water and fertilize provided that you are getting enough light.
There is enough light to grow some grass there obviously, but something is stopping it from being able to be a vigorous enough growth to be a serviceable playing surface.
The eye of the tiger is just painted dirt at the end of the year.
This is gonna be expensive....get TAF on the phone.
I really think that anyone could grow turf if the sun and decks were not some type of issue. It doesnt seem rational that we cant grow grass in Baton Rouge but come on, all you gotta do is water and fertilize provided that you are getting enough light.
There is enough light to grow some grass there obviously, but something is stopping it from being able to be a vigorous enough growth to be a serviceable playing surface.
The eye of the tiger is just painted dirt at the end of the year.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 10:06 am to tigerfoot
Some say field turf is better than grass. No divots, etc.
Our field is horrendous. Worst in the league.
I'm for the field turf, especially with the rain we get early season.
It could pour like it did for Oregon State and we'd still be fast as hell.
Our field is horrendous. Worst in the league.
I'm for the field turf, especially with the rain we get early season.
It could pour like it did for Oregon State and we'd still be fast as hell.
Posted on 1/3/09 at 10:21 am to AlaTiger
Pro's--We won't be playing on painted dirt.
Con's--tradition
Con's--tradition
Posted on 1/3/09 at 10:27 am to theduckman23
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actually it's not a myth! I've seen practices on this turf and the heat does rise from the rubber pellets
How many times have played or ran on the field turf during games? Thank you. I have experience running/walking during whole games in the hottest month of the year and it is just as hot as the real grass was!
Posted on 1/3/09 at 10:28 am to xiv
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An A&M school should always show its chops with a kick-arse natural field
that is exactly what I was going to say....
a friend of mine is a professor at the LSU Ag Center....he has told me that the athletic department does not consult with them regarding how to manage the turf @ Tiger Stadium...in his opinion their department could really help them out with the turf situation...
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