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re: Should Collins sue BRPD for defamation?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:33 pm to theantiquetiger
Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:33 pm to theantiquetiger
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So you're saying you don't think they tried to do that?
It's not like they were looking for a hard to find person on the run, this is a kid that was in the national spotlight, and could have been contacted by one of many means, without going public with it.
What i'm trying to say is what if they tried all those channels and got no response or got blown off? Are you saying if that was the case they just should have given up trying to talk to him?
Heres the thing If La'eL was %100 innocent and was playing ball with them then BRPD would have absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose by blowing this up. They would have literally suck their johnsons straight up the the poop chute of the most sacred of sacred cows Baton Rouge has. For this reason I am personally forced to believe that putting him on blast was not their first option.
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 4:35 pm
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:37 pm to cayenne
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If this was someone else, no one would have ever heard about a non-suspect the police want to question...
Well no shite. It wouldn't be newsworthy. Have you ever though that there is a reason we don't hear about the 99% of the combatants in Tigerland fights, but we sure as hell heard about ones involving Jordan Jefferson and Jeremy Hill?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:56 pm to theantiquetiger
quote:The most shocking part of this statement is that you have 15 upvotes.
I think a good lawyer could easily prove this. He went from being a first round draft pick in the NFL to where no one will even talk to him all because BRPD released his name in a murder case, even when they say he is not a suspect. Try do this two days before the draft, costing him a multi-million dollar contract.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 5:05 pm to DontCare
The police are not responsible for speculation or arm chair sleuths with big imaginations.
It is what it is. They want to talk to La'el. It leaked. BRPD had said multiple times he's not a suspect.
Everyone can be mad as hornets that it leaked and cost La'el being a first round but there's been no defamation at this point.
His lawyer caused him more damage than BRPD did, in my opinion.
A woman La'el knew, possibly in the biblical sense was murdered. It's not unusual for police to want to question friends, particularly people who may have been romantically involved with her.
It is what it is. They want to talk to La'el. It leaked. BRPD had said multiple times he's not a suspect.
Everyone can be mad as hornets that it leaked and cost La'el being a first round but there's been no defamation at this point.
His lawyer caused him more damage than BRPD did, in my opinion.
A woman La'el knew, possibly in the biblical sense was murdered. It's not unusual for police to want to question friends, particularly people who may have been romantically involved with her.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 5:13 pm to theantiquetiger
If your hurt...call Burt!
Posted on 5/1/15 at 5:19 pm to theantiquetiger
An alibi doesn't prove anything....
Posted on 5/1/15 at 5:55 pm to theantiquetiger
All of the articles I read made it clear he was not a suspect. What grounds would he have for a defamation suit again?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:03 pm to cayenne
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The problem I have is this. Why did them wanting to question him get released to the media? Why could this not have been more than a phone call to LC or his attorney?
My point on previous page and people responded that I am unintelligent. What I was saying is that if people in the BRPD leaked this info without authorization they could be liable for the damages and if they were in the know because they are city employees then BTR could be liable for damages.
Yes, I understand that leaks are not authorized. Get over it.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:30 pm to theantiquetiger
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I think a good lawyer could easily prove this.
Damages wouldn't be an issue, but you'd never get there. A) privileged (not atty-client kind but a defense), B) no scienter, C) probably not even a misstatement (although creative arguments might get past that hurdle).
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:59 pm to DontCare
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but here's the rub. while their sole duty is to investigate the murder, they do also have a responsibility to the general community and that responsibility should include not ruining someone's professional opportunities. i don't think they went out of their way to frick him over and they're constrained in what they can and cannot say, but i find it generally irresponsible to allow rampant speculation to occur that significantly harms Collins' ability to practice his chosen profession by even linking him to the crime just because he has had a relation to the victim. if Collins were a serious suspect, I would have wanted them to be even more reticent in providing information publicly, so as to avoid that effecting the investigation.
I am willing to bet they asked to speak with him and were getting ignored. It is a murder investigation, not some kids with pot. Are they supposed to just let a murderer walk a few extra days when they might be able to apprehend him with the help of a witness just because that witness is a football player?
People bitch when athletes get special treatment yet bitch when they do not. Which is it?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:10 pm to euquol
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It is a murder investigation, not some kids with pot.
no shite.
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I am willing to bet they asked to speak with him and were getting ignored.
"ignored" is a pretty loaded word, here. can you provide a link to some information that suggests that he was intentionally avoiding contact with BRPD? they only announced that they'd unsuccessfully tried to get in touch with him after he'd boarded the plane to Chicago, so it is just as likely that they'd tried to get in touch with him when he was unreachable as it is that he'd avoided or ignored their contact.
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People bitch when athletes get special treatment yet bitch when they do not. Which is it?
where did I previously bitch about athletes receiving unfair treatment?
the simple fact is that there are lots of people that the police are touching base with and all-but one are not losing millions of dollars because of it.
what is it with you people? why doesn't a hometown kid even get the benefit of "let's wait and see before passing judgement?" I'm not even claiming that he's innocent of any/all wrongdoing, but there has been an automatic judgement of guilt ever since Shefter sent out a tweet.
he even took a polygraph today and passed it. what more should he do to appease you nay-sayers? and don't give me some sort of shite like "it's possible to lie and pass a polygraph," as if he spent the last day being coached up by a fricking FBI or CIA psychologist.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:17 pm to Gris Gris
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BRPD had said multiple times he's not a suspect.
But let's cut the crap. He's 100% a suspect and everybody knows it.
However, the timing isn't the BRPD's concern and there was no defamation.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:33 pm to theantiquetiger
Yeah, the BRPD should put a murder investigation on hold until the NFL draft is over. 
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:45 pm to RDOtiger
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Absolutely not! But, they could have easily interviewed him 2 days earlier or later than they did in order to protect his draft status in case he wasn't truly involved.
Holy guacamole, Batman! Some of you people are just stupid! Like the BRPD, or any other LEA investigating a murder, gives two hoots about a persons NFL draft stock. I know I wouldn't if I was the investigator in this case.This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:58 pm to joemuggs
so has it been determined whether he was in town or not when the shite went down (I know it doesn't necessarily mean anything one way or the other.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:59 pm to Walking the Earth
At least someone gets it. Collins will likely be charged with accomplice to premeditated murder soon. The police department didn't stop his draft for shits and giggles.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:00 pm to Rhino5
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At least someone gets it. Collins will likely be charged with accomplice to premeditated murder soon. The police department didn't stop his draft for shits and giggles.
Ha what?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:09 pm to DontCare
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he even took a polygraph today and passed it
Did he? This is the first I've heard about this. Where did you hear this?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:10 pm to Rhino5
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At least someone gets it. Collins will likely be charged with 2 counts of premeditated murder soon. The police department didn't stop his draft for shits and giggles.
FIFY
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:12 pm to DontCare
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he even took a polygraph today and passed it. what more should he do to appease you nay-sayers? and don't give me some sort of shite like "it's possible to lie and pass a polygraph," as if he spent the last day being coached up by a fricking FBI or CIA psychologist.
where did you get this .... are you that guy that cuts skip bertmans grass?
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