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re: Seriously, what's with the Oregon hype?

Posted on 2/12/11 at 12:21 am to
Posted by TexanPete
Texas State University Alum
Member since Feb 2005
3023 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 12:21 am to
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Not to mention that I'm not convinced this team would have beat LSU this past season


I doubt LSU would have beat Oregon on a neutral field. I think Oregon would have ran it down our throat in the fourth quarter to put the game away, much like Arkansas did.

Could LSU have upset Oregon in Tiger Stadium? Maybe. It's all hypothetical, but I think Oregon would have beat us in Autzen or in Glendale.

Next year? Now that is a different story...
Posted by finallyfastohio
Columbus
Member since Sep 2010
2327 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 6:23 am to
depending on their last game lsu fans believe they will either kill anybody in the country or lose to anybody in the country. last season was a fun season to lurk here. here's to next year
Posted by TexanPete
Texas State University Alum
Member since Feb 2005
3023 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 6:29 am to
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depending on their last game lsu fans believe they will either kill anybody in the country or lose to anybody in the country


There's a lot of truth to this.

It worked out well for us in the 2006 (Jan 3, 2007) Sugar Bowl. Not so much after the 2008 Chick-Fil-A Bowl.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77408 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:15 am to
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depending on their last game lsu fans believe they will either kill anybody in the country or lose to anybody in the country. last season was a fun season to lurk here. here's to next year



While a solid bowl game win does give ANY winning team something to look forward to you left out that LSU returns a lot of veteran players, has the top JUCO QB and finally got rid of Crowton as to why expectations are high not just with fans but by the media and pollsters as well...
Posted by finallyfastohio
Columbus
Member since Sep 2010
2327 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:26 am to
i meant last game period. not last game of the season
Posted by Third Degrre Bern
Member since Dec 2010
652 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 7:59 am to
Are you talking about the 2007 NC game??

Oregon / Auburn
Oregon / LSU----------------Same results. Too much defensive speed.

Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13136 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 9:14 am to
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LSU returns a lot of veteran players, has the top JUCO QB
I wonder if Mettenberg will get a fair shot at starting. Miles seems to be loyal to a fault when it comes to starting incumbents.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59356 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 9:52 am to
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Miles seems to be loyal to a fault when it comes to starting incumbents.








Yes, Miles is the only coach in history who typically starts guys who started the previous year
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59135 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:16 am to
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I wonder if Mettenberg will get a fair shot at starting. Miles seems to be loyal to a fault when it comes to starting incumbents.


And he doesn't play freshman either, just ask Tyrann Mathieu

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Miles is the only coach in history who typically starts guys who started the previous year


Its really amazing to me that coaches can watch players everyday in practice, see hours of game film, but they are not as good at figuring out who start as fans that just watch the game each week or saw this guy play in HS.
This post was edited on 2/12/11 at 10:29 am
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35759 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 10:59 am to
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Sorry ,I knew how they did last year and they finished 10 in one ranking this year and 13 in the other.I work at facilities at the UofO 4yrs now .been in oregon 20 years .Born /raised in Baton Rouge (Broadmoor HS) went to LSU TIGERS are my team and OREGON #2 but the SEC fans have no clue how good THE DUCKS are .


Interesting, I have a similar type life story and feelings for the Ducks and I agree with you.
This post was edited on 2/12/11 at 11:00 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56526 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:06 am to
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Miles seems to be loyal to a fault when it comes to starting incumbents.


Examples?
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
58900 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 8:57 pm to
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Miles seems to be loyal to a fault when it comes to starting incumbents.


LSU played 23 True or Redshirt Freshmen(This includes walkons) this past year.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 9:20 pm to
LSU is the team coming in with all the hype. We hadn't won our division in 3 years and people are talking about us around here like we are a lock to play in the National Championship game.
Posted by JimKnuckles
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2010
61 posts
Posted on 2/13/11 at 2:04 pm to
It's hyped because both teams will be highly ranked going in
Posted by jwclark
eugene oregon
Member since Jan 2011
130 posts
Posted on 2/13/11 at 4:27 pm to
cool,where you living at up here?
Posted by jwclark
eugene oregon
Member since Jan 2011
130 posts
Posted on 2/13/11 at 4:38 pm to
cool,where you living at up here?
Posted by goducks75
Member since Nov 2010
52 posts
Posted on 2/14/11 at 12:22 am to
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BTW, I'll be heading to the ASU/OR game in Eugene next year - any wineries up there that are a MUST visit?

I wouldn't know as I've been 21 for almost a year now and I'm not much of a wine buff. My dad's a wino though and talks about how good the wine is around here so I probably just don't know my stuff. Here is a list of some that may be of interest to you with links to various websites of the wineries within the area but I couldn't tell you which one is better than the other:

LINK

Personally I'm more of a beer person and the Willamette Valley (the region in Oregon that houses Portland, Corvallis, Eugene, etc.) is arguably the microbrew capital of the world. You can try out Eugene's own Ninkasi Brewery, which has some delicious IPAs if that's your kind of thing (also have a very good Double Red Ale and Oatmeal Stout as well as a seasonal beer which will likely be Radiant Ale by then despite it being a Summer Ale). Eugene also has Oakshire Brewing and Steelhead Brewing Co., which are also quite good (I prefer Ninkasi but that's just me). There's also Widmer and Rogue (to name a few of the bigger brands) up in Portland and if you really wanted to make a trip out of it, you could go to Bend (home of Deschuttes Brewery) or Hood River (home of Full Sail brewing, among others). This hardly does the area justice as there are many more breweries in the area but they're just a few suggestions.
Posted by goducks75
Member since Nov 2010
52 posts
Posted on 2/14/11 at 12:45 am to
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Whoa really? Jon Gruden the announcer?

Depends on how you look at it. John Gruden the announcer, John Gruden the Super Bowl winning head coach. I guess both do apply.......

As for the rest of your point, I didn't exactly mean 'so what' in the sense that I believe we'll reload without missing a beat (at least not easily anyway if that indeed does happen), but rather we'll be starting guys that saw significant PT last year. It's not like we'll be starting some redshirt freshman or sophomore who never saw time in the rotation last year, which seemed to be the person who I was responding to was asserting. That's all I meant by the 'so what' comment. I'm still worried about the holes (particularly at the DL for us) and chemistry but at the same time the guys stepping in got plenty of PT last season.

LSU will be a very good team if not a great team next year. They certainly have the talent defensively to slow our offense down. I'm not so blind as to deny that reality, I just happen to think Oregon has as good of a chance to win that game as LSU does. When both are playing at their best, they're tough to stop.

I will be interested to see the adjustment from Crowton to Kragthorpe, as it is difficult for any team to spend an entire offseason un-learning the things they learned under Crowton while learning a new system. That said, believe me when I say Oregon fans are disappointed that he left LSU, as we all had the same problems with him when he was here that you guys have with him now. The only time Crowton really did well for us was in 2005 when we had talent at all positions, kind of like what happened with you guys in 2007 (aka the year where everyone seemingly did anything they could to NOT win the national title). I think it's safe to say our move from Crowton to Chip Kelly ended up working out pretty well for us and I have a hard time thinking the same won't be true for you guys.
This post was edited on 2/14/11 at 12:47 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31036 posts
Posted on 2/14/11 at 1:00 am to
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it is difficult for any team to spend an entire offseason un-learning the things they learned under Crowton


Not being a jerk but this really doesn't apply. JJ retained very few play calls, just by watching him play this past season. The best game called this past season was the Cotton Bowl followed by the game against the Gumps.<---personal opinion.
Crowton has redefined, at LSU (I'm aware of his total f up at Oregon but as of late), what not to do as a a QB coach. Make the plays so complex it takes a guy over 2 years to even kind of remember it. Now this can be said for JJ or JL.
Personally, I think there will be very little plays JJ or JL have retained that will have to be "reprogrammed."
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261895 posts
Posted on 2/14/11 at 1:06 am to
I don't think it will be a problem. Mettenberger will not have to unlearn anything and Lee and JJ have all spring to adjust. The major work will be fixing the bad habits Lee and JJ have developed. I don't think a new offense will be a problem though.
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