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re: Sallee comments on LSU Defensive emphasis and Craig
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:45 am to Howyouluhdat
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:45 am to Howyouluhdat
Auburn still had a good defense in 2010. Chizik is a defensive guy. They had the best dlineman in the country that year.
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:45 am to geauxtigers33
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Auburn 2010 was just good enough on defense. They are the exception not the rule.
They had a decent defense that was very disruptive headlined by a stud in Nick Fairley which helped them be the #9 rush defense in the country, #13 in sacks, and #6 in TFL.
They made plays when they had to and could lean on maybe the GOAT college player in a single season in Cam Newton and a very solid running game.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:48 am to dgnx6
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Auburn still had a good defense in 2010. Chizik is a defensive guy. They had the best dlineman in the country that year.
No they weren't at all. They won a lot of their games by out scoring the opponent.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:51 am to bulldogger
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Just enough defense wins championships nowadays,
Not breaking down everything I take issue with but this comment is baffling...
what does "good enough" mean... certainly an elite defense qualifies as good enough so why take issue with that... Also good enough sounds like its ok to be mediocre which I would never be ok with...
I think his point is that he is slamming Miles "out-dated" offense but more often than not "just enough" of anything does not get you into the playoff picture..
Sometimes these talking heads just make stuff up to meet their quotas...
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:52 am to bulldogger
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347.2 YPG and an 0.58 TO margin should be enough defense in this day and age of CFB
what kind of crack is he smoking?
.58 TO is pretty bad by our standards.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:53 am to Howyouluhdat
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No they weren't at all. They won a lot of their games by out scoring the opponent.
A single exception from 6 years ago is not a strong basis for the argument that "college football is evolving" and that "just enough defense wins championships".
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:58 am to Guava Jelly
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A single exception from 6 years ago is not a strong basis for the argument that "college football is evolving" and that "just enough defense wins championships".
I'm not disputing that at all. I provided a team that has done it and replying to the previous poster. I think his point is to win a championship you have to have a good offense. He's more so slamming our offense in that article which is warranted
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 10:59 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:03 am to Guava Jelly
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When is comes to this, the problem is that his whole premise is in error.
The last five title winners have been ranked 2, 15, 3, 1, and 1 in total defensive yards allowed per game with those teams averaging 260/game.
High of Ohio St at 328/game and a low of Bama '11 at 184/game.
His assumption is wrong. The numbers would say you need to be under 300/game.
As far as picking us fifth. It's not that unrealistic. We have finished 4, 5, and 3 the last three years.
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347.2 YPG and an 0.58 TO margin should be enough defense in this day and age of CFB
When is comes to this, the problem is that his whole premise is in error.
The last five title winners have been ranked 2, 15, 3, 1, and 1 in total defensive yards allowed per game with those teams averaging 260/game.
High of Ohio St at 328/game and a low of Bama '11 at 184/game.
His assumption is wrong. The numbers would say you need to be under 300/game.
As far as picking us fifth. It's not that unrealistic. We have finished 4, 5, and 3 the last three years.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 11:05 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:03 am to Howyouluhdat
BTW, for those who clearly haven't looked at what he's said about those predictions, LSU finishes tied for third BUT the tiebreakers put them at fifth. I do not agree, but if you go look at the live chat he has on NOLA.com he backs up his statement pretty well. Not many points you can argue minus the actual ranking.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:06 am to Howyouluhdat
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No they weren't at all. They won a lot of their games by out scoring the opponent.
Their scoring average was over 41 points a game.
Average points against? 24.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:10 am to extremetigerfanatic
Yeah but those squads weren't near as stacked as this year's squad. To think this year's team will tie the worst year LSU has had under Miles with all the uncertainty in the SEC West this year is borderline retarded.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:11 am to bulldogger
quote:LOL at this idiot.
Just enough defense wins championships nowadays,
Just enough D has always won NCs, otherwise you lose.
quote:Nat rank]LSU #39 in total O, Bama #45, clouds that perception. Bama likewise needed elite D and got it.
LSU's out-dated offensive philosophy mandates that LSU play elite D week-in and week-out.
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(see: Alabama beating Clemson playing Clemson football, beating A&M playing A&M football and beating Auburn playing Auburn football)
Also good he's reflecting he's no homer.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:12 am to L S Usetheforce
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elite WRs don't need to communicate they need to run block and catch
I agreed with most of your post, but you're extremely wrong here. Receivers and QBs have to make the same reads of the defense such that the WR does exactly what the QB thinks he will do. This breeds confidence for the QB, so that he can throw routes on timing. Is that "communication"? Not really, but folks call it that nowadays.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:13 am to MoneyShot
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Average points against? 24.
Result
W 52–26
W 17–14
W 27–24 OT
W 35–27
W 52–3
W 37–34
W 65–43
W 24–17
W 51–31
W 62–24
W 49–31
W 28–27
W 56–17
W 22–19
Not a stout defense by any means. They bent but didn't break which is what he said.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 11:14 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:13 am to extremetigerfanatic
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When is comes to this, the problem is that his whole premise is in error.
The last five title winners have been ranked 2, 15, 3, 1, and 1 in total defensive yards allowed per game with those teams averaging 260/game.
High of Ohio St at 328/game and a low of Bama '11 at 184/game.
His assumption is wrong. The numbers would say you need to be under 300/game.
To build on this, the average defensive rank of national champions over the last 10 years is 20. Removing the Auburn outlier (#94 in 2010), the average is closer to #12.
6 of the last 10 champions have been ranked in the top 10. Literally the only one outside the top 30 was Auburn.
Nice revisionist history, Barrett.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:17 am to bulldogger
I dont see LSU 5th in the West but his points are valid regardless of what anyone thinks, you mean to tell me if Bama played offense the same way they played in 2012 and 2011 that we would still win the NC. You have to adapt or else you will get left behind, I dont think Sallee is saying totally change your offensive philosophy but more adapt to how things are going. Whats the point of having all those all world receivers and just totally focus on running the ball thats how you totally drive off receivers from wanting to come to your school.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:32 am to bulldogger
Sallee is a chode munching, anal bleached rectal wart.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:52 am to Guava Jelly
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Wasn't that long ago when Mett lit up the scoreboard/stat sheet on that derelict LSU offense.
The philosophy was similar, but with the veterans on offense the production was definitely there.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:53 am to bulldogger
quote:you have a very liberal definition of "back up".
he does back up his rationale.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:57 am to bulldogger
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Sallee
The sad story on a panhandler's sign is more believable than anything that this guy says.
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