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re: Russell Shepard...either never got the right chance or was just not what he seemed to be?
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:36 pm to Bill W Tiger
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:36 pm to Bill W Tiger
All that ever needs to be said is that Miles never,ever, recruited from high school and coached up anything even close to an average QB. All of his best were transfers.
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:05 pm to cj2002
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Miles was an Idiot. Think about the 2011 NCG and the number of guys on offense who were on the team and did not play quality time. On a night that your offense looked like Dog shite. OBJ, Landy, Mettenburger. With a month to prepare.
Absolute insanity. The amount of talent he had. He should have managed two titles, minimum.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 11:46 pm to cas4t
His head coach was a skill position player killer.
His head coach was completely unimaginative.
His head coach was terrible.
He was not the best passer. But to think in an era of Jordan Jefferson we couldn’t find a single pass play for him? Or that we didn’t know what he was as a passer coming out of HS? Or that we couldn’t coach him up enough to be able to competently execute a single pass play in 4 years? Or that our coaching staff or systems were not able to incorporate a single cut, upfield straight line speed type?
These are all questions of a rhetorical nature. Shepard was recruited well and never complained and never got in trouble that I can recall. But he was grossly misused by one of the most inept coaches to ever seen stalk a sideline at LSU.
If we are being brutally honest, Shep was never going to be a FT QB. Neither was or is Taysom Hill of the Saints. He’s not a starter at any position. But a weapon you have to scheme for. Which is what competent coaching can do for an Uber talented but not starting caliber quality talent at a high level of football.
Les Miles held our program and a litany of kids back from achieving their maximum potential and our maximum ceiling for success as a football team. For years.
Thanks for the memories. But good riddance.
I wish all the best to Shep…
His head coach was completely unimaginative.
His head coach was terrible.
He was not the best passer. But to think in an era of Jordan Jefferson we couldn’t find a single pass play for him? Or that we didn’t know what he was as a passer coming out of HS? Or that we couldn’t coach him up enough to be able to competently execute a single pass play in 4 years? Or that our coaching staff or systems were not able to incorporate a single cut, upfield straight line speed type?
These are all questions of a rhetorical nature. Shepard was recruited well and never complained and never got in trouble that I can recall. But he was grossly misused by one of the most inept coaches to ever seen stalk a sideline at LSU.
If we are being brutally honest, Shep was never going to be a FT QB. Neither was or is Taysom Hill of the Saints. He’s not a starter at any position. But a weapon you have to scheme for. Which is what competent coaching can do for an Uber talented but not starting caliber quality talent at a high level of football.
Les Miles held our program and a litany of kids back from achieving their maximum potential and our maximum ceiling for success as a football team. For years.
Thanks for the memories. But good riddance.
I wish all the best to Shep…
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:57 am to GFunk
Les "we have a want to not play Russell Shepherd at QB"
Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:34 am to Bill W Tiger
He played the required 5 years minimum to get his NFL pension so whether he had a HOF (I know he didn’t) career it was a backup he’s got this pension and his business.
Banking and doing better than 100% of the posters on TD and especially in this thread myself included
Banking and doing better than 100% of the posters on TD and especially in this thread myself included
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:33 pm to Bill W Tiger
He had the misfortune of odell and Landry co.ing in behind him. He was making some plays his first 2 years
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:44 pm to Gus007
Let him throw. Daniels throws a ball 100x better than Shep. It was bad. Like really really bad. Think a duck shot out of the sky and falling uncontrollably to the ground spinning and flipping all over the place. That duck was Sheps ball.
RUNNING qb recruit. FIFY
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running QB recruit
RUNNING qb recruit. FIFY
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:51 pm to Bill W Tiger
Shep wasn't under utilized, he was actually over utilized and should have had less carries and plays at RB/ WR. Skill wise he was similar to Jontre Kirklin. He took away plays in which we had better players who should have had those reps. The move to WR was the best thing that ever happened to him and enabled him to have a NFL carrier.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:19 pm to Captain Crown
Did he really have a "booger" vault attached to his belt?
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:27 pm to Bill W Tiger
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He proved them all wrong by having a decent NFL stint
Decent? He caught more than 10 passes in a season twice and never had 25 catches in a season. I wouldn't call that decent. He made rosters.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:31 pm to Bill W Tiger
The dude could not throw in the SEC and was an average (although pretty successful) receiver. He did fine. I don’t understand the controversy. He was given every opportunity.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:31 pm to geauxtigers33
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This I agree with. Les and company definitely didn’t know the proper way to handle him.
What? They literally tried getting him the ball every single way possible. Screens, handoffs as single back,handoff out of the i,handoff out of the gun, short passes, deep passes,swing passes.
Russel Shepard just wasn't that explosive. He dominated highschool but when it came to the sec and the nfl he wasn't that. He was literally caught from behind in a big bama game.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:39 pm to Rickdaddy4188
The best thing Shep had was his intelligence, patience, and work ethic. Yes he was an athlete, but not elite.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:53 pm to abellsujr
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The best thing Shep had was his intelligence, patience, and work ethic. Yes he was an athlete, but not elite.
His size & workout were basically identical to Justin Jefferson lol
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:29 pm to cas4t
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I blame Miles 100%
As they say in Family Feud... Good Answer
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:34 pm to Bill W Tiger
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Miles wasted a hell of lot of offensive talent.
A lucky buffoon with overflowing talent
Posted on 8/25/23 at 4:10 pm to Bill W Tiger
In the right college offense maybe he may have been explosive, like playing in a RPO, spread or something, but yeah with Miles that's not gonna happen. 
But that's college football for Shepard, the pros had him pegged right by converting him into a WR because that's all he would have amounted to in the pros. Shepard was basically another Antwaan Randle El.
But that's college football for Shepard, the pros had him pegged right by converting him into a WR because that's all he would have amounted to in the pros. Shepard was basically another Antwaan Randle El.This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 4:20 pm to Bill W Tiger
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Russell Shepard...either never got the right chance or was just not what he seemed to be?
Great athlete but probably the “jack of all trades, master of none” situation.
Posted on 8/26/23 at 6:53 am to Lester Earl
quote:do you think that Russell Shepard is the same kind of athlete that Justin Jefferson is? Just a question. You’re the expert.
His size & workout were basically identical to Justin Jefferson lol
What is the difference between those two guys? Or is there a difference? Obviously, they had different coaches in their careers. But I’m curious to know if there is any other difference between the two. Is it all coaching?
This post was edited on 8/26/23 at 7:00 am
Posted on 8/26/23 at 10:03 am to abellsujr
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do you think that Russell Shepard is the same kind of athlete that Justin Jefferson is? Just a question. You’re the expert.
not trying to be an expert. Data is data. They have very similar athletic traits.
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What is the difference between those two guys? Or is there a difference? Obviously, they had different coaches in their careers. But I’m curious to know if there is any other difference between the two. Is it all coaching?
One has always been a WR, in WR-friendly offenses dating back to HS.. The other switched positions and played for a coach who did not know how to use him. Not to say he would ever be as special as Justin Jefferson. But their athletic traits are similar (size, run, jumping, explosion)
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