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re: Run/Run/Pass/Punt narrative (2015 stats - 5.6% of all drives)

Posted on 8/28/16 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20361 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 5:58 pm to
Because the cup cake games are eliminated .
Posted by Wideman
Arlington, Virginia
Member since Jul 2005
11721 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 6:04 pm to
I'm curious, could you compile the numbers for our run-run-run-punt scenarios?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 6:09 pm to
A rant narrative is bullshite? Color me shocked
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 6:16 pm to
Okay, now add in the possessions that were run, run, run and punt.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
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61270 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 6:19 pm to
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So, LSU ran/ran/pass/punt nine times in 156 drives (5.6 percent)


This stat shouldn't take into account all drives, but only the drives in which we punted.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 6:53 pm to
Here's the CORRECT stat. Of all drives that ended with a punt 35.85% ended with the exact sequence of plays in the exact order of Run, Run, Pass. 18.9% ended in the exact sequence of plays RUN, RUN, RUN.

I was VERY conservative in counting what constituted a Run, Run, Pass, as there were plenty of drives that started with pass, and then ended with run, run.

As you can see, 54.8% of all punts were preceded by either Run, Run, Pass or Run, Run, Run.

Again, that doesn't include Pass, Run, Run, or Run, Pass, Run.
This post was edited on 8/28/16 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:01 pm to
trooploop....why are you pumping sunshine today? You have been called out as an official sunshine pumper. Worst post EVER.

Here's the CORRECT stat. Of all drives that ended with a punt 35.85% ended with the exact sequence of plays in the exact order of Run, Run, Pass. 18.9% ended in the exact sequence of plays RUN, RUN, RUN.

I was VERY conservative in counting what constituted a Run, Run, Pass, as there were plenty of drives that started with pass, and then ended with run, run.

As you can see, 54.8% of all punts ended in either Run, Run, Pass or Run, Run, Run.

Again, that doesn't include Pass, Run, Run, or Run, Pass, Run.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11600 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:05 pm to
What happened to Ole Miss game?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Here's the CORRECT stat. Of all drives that ended with a punt 35.85% ended with the exact sequence of plays in the exact order of Run, Run, Pass. 18.9% ended in the exact sequence of plays RUN, RUN, RUN.



So not really that much then. You also arent counting when those punts happened.
Once again you just dont like the stats that are postes so you have to make knew stats to support your arugment.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

This stat shouldn't take into account all drives, but only the drives in which we punted.



Thats utter bullshite. It most definitely should count all drives.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Because the cup cake games are eliminated .



So lsu playing bama (1st ranked defense) and florida ( 7th ranked defense) is the same as bama playing tenn (37th ranked defense)and lsu (23rd ranked defense).
No no its not. Ill stick to entire season and not cherry pick stats.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14530 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:15 pm to
How many times last year did we score on the opening drive last year?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61270 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:17 pm to
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Thats utter bullshite. It most definitely should count all drives.


Why? How is it helpful at all to include all drives?

If I ask, "what circumstances lead LSU to punt the ball?", You would isolate the drives you had to punt, and look for a pattern amongst that data.

quote:

Rickdaddy4188



Oh...nvm...please go do illogical with other posters, although I'm pretty sure most of this board is tired of your garbage.

I'll not instigate your little child tantrums.
Posted by BengalsLivesMatter
Houston
Member since Aug 2016
580 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:26 pm to
Is execution the problem?
Posted by trooploop
Member since Feb 2013
831 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:31 pm to
The "correct" stat? I was looking at drive starters that started run, run, pass, punt. There's nothing inaccurate about the stat that I posted.

You chose to put together your own stat using different criteria. It doesn't make mine incorrect.

As I posted, I decided to do it because for some reason the narrative is that so many LSU drives start with two runs, a pass, and a punt. That sequence is very rare.

This post was edited on 8/28/16 at 7:34 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61270 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:37 pm to
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I was looking at drive starters that started run, run, pass, punt. There's nothing inaccurate about the stat that I posted


But if you still end up punting the ball after run, run, pass, it's equal in the sense that you don't get any points and you give the ball back to the other team. Seems like the net result is equal.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:37 pm to
Can someone do a stat on the "hurry up dive after a big play" play?
Posted by trooploop
Member since Feb 2013
831 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:46 pm to
As for the "sunshine pumper" accusation, I'm guilty as charged. I don't feel the need to criticize everything we do.

The 2014 offense was a struggle, which wasn't unexpected based on who waa lost from 2013. Last year's offense wasn't nearly as bad as perceived and I think it will be top 25 nationally in 2016.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

This stat shouldn't take into account all drives, but only the drives in which we punted.



Considering the rant thinks every drive consists of run, run, pass I'm gonna have to disagree
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

But if you still end up punting the ball after run, run, pass, it's equal in the sense that you don't get any points and you give the ball back to the other team. Seems like the net result is equal.


lol. Hell, why don't you just figure out how many times we punt overall? Same net result.

The whole point of the guys thread was full drives that started a certain way, because many people call that the norm.

You're criteria, a drive could be 15 straight passes, then run run pass punt. Same net. But those are not the narrative used by negas.
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