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re: Reasons for Optimism in 2015 (Not for the Faint of Heart)
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:51 am to chilge1
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:51 am to chilge1
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Whether you stand with the majority who want Harris, the ultra-talented sophomore whose drawback includes having played organized football for only 3 years, or with the minority who want Jennings, the physically limited film junkie who exclusively corners the market with game experience, improvement from the position is all but guaranteed
I know you're a big Jennings guy, and you're right in that most QB's don't develop until year 3. The problem is, Jennings is the only LSU QB I've seen in awhile that, to this point in their career, has had ZERO signature moments, save for one drive against Arkansas. All the other QB's you mention-Lee, Jefferson, and Mett, all had at least one full game before their junior year where they really shined and looked promising. Lee had Auburn '08, Jefferson the Peach Bowl, Mett the '12 Bama game. Jennings hasn't come close to that kind of performance. And the physical limitations you mention are really showing. The arm strength just isn't there. Three years is enough time to learn the game of football and I think, and hope, Harris is the guy. Good post, though.
ETA: I know Mett was a junior in '12, so we'll just call it their "third" year.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 9:43 am
Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:27 am to YouAre8Up
I am a Miles guy but so obvious that he has failed with QB recruiting and development. How can you say otherwise?
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:39 am to countryboy2
uummmmm lets not start breaking out the champagne just yet. I applaud your enthusiasm but if we get QB play like we had last year, 8-5 is a definite possibility again.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:48 am to chilge1
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I especially like Jamal Adams in this regard.
Amen. If Dwayne Thomas comes back to full health like we're hearing we could see he or Adams bird-dogging the opposing QB's on virtually every play. This defensive backfield could well rival the greatest Tiger DB's of all time, including the '03, '07, '10 and '11 teams.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:03 pm to Nix to Twillie
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I know you're a big Jennings guy, and you're right in that most QB's don't develop until year 3.
I'm not a Jennings guy, I just don't believe in throwing in the towel on a guy before he's run the full course of his development. Imagine 2011 if we had given up on Jarrett Lee.
If Jennings shows nothing in 2015 then I'm all in for Harris.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:30 pm to chilge1
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He didn't coach ANY of those QBs in college, as his career has largely been confined to the NFL.
My error, I stand corrected.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 2:24 pm to chilge1
Honest question-If Jennings starts and goes most of the way against McNeese and goes 8-20/114 yds/1 TD/1 Int would you have confidence in him against Moo State the next week, regardless of how the rest of the team did?
Posted on 2/17/15 at 2:30 pm to Nix to Twillie
Without knowing the number of dropped and/or batted passes or the number of passes that were thrown away due to pressure or coverage, no, I would not have confidence in him heading into our first conference game.
That said, I wouldn't lose my shite if he was named the stater, either. MSST has lost much of their defensive two-deep rom last year, so, I'd be willing to let him play.
That said, I wouldn't lose my shite if he was named the stater, either. MSST has lost much of their defensive two-deep rom last year, so, I'd be willing to let him play.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 2:40 pm to Nix to Twillie
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Honest question-If Jennings starts and goes most of the way against McNeese and goes 8-20/114 yds/1 TD/1 Int would you have confidence in him against Moo State the next week, regardless of how the rest of the team did?
The war drums would definitely be beating. I would not want him starting at Moo State. Just the fact that he started against McNeese would speak volumes about where we stand with our QBs.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 3:03 pm to RedTigerRulz
Jennings is starting. Prepare accordingly.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 4:48 pm to gene_parmesan
Saving my money for NC game!!
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:53 pm to ORTIGER
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Saving my money for NC game!!
::pinches cheek::
you're adorable.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:08 am to chilge1
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Reasons for Optimism in 2015
You could have saved some space and listed the only REAL reason for optimism in 2015. We're one year closer to getting a new coach.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:35 am to chilge1
I see 5 main reasons to be excited for 2015.
1. Returning Players. We weren't decimated by early departures, and return the vast majority of starters.(I think it's like 15 of 22).
2. The DL. Coach O (+ Valentine and perhaps Arden Key) will vastly improve our pass rush and sack count
3. QB issue. Harris accounted for 2 less touchdowns than Jennings in about 90 percent less time. If Harris overcomes whatever the coaches think is holding him back (or the coaches wake the f up and realize he's our best chance at winning) then the QB situation is not going to be an issue.
4. Skill positions. Our worst WR was a true freshman who broke every all-time receiving record in the country. Our two deep at RB will make Ingram/Lacey look like scrubs. Donte Jackson could be a huge lift at punt returns and the ever popular "jet sweep".
5. The SEC. Of the 4 teams that beat us last year (that we will play again) - 3 are replacing Qbs. 1 is replacing almost everyone else.
1. Returning Players. We weren't decimated by early departures, and return the vast majority of starters.(I think it's like 15 of 22).
2. The DL. Coach O (+ Valentine and perhaps Arden Key) will vastly improve our pass rush and sack count
3. QB issue. Harris accounted for 2 less touchdowns than Jennings in about 90 percent less time. If Harris overcomes whatever the coaches think is holding him back (or the coaches wake the f up and realize he's our best chance at winning) then the QB situation is not going to be an issue.
4. Skill positions. Our worst WR was a true freshman who broke every all-time receiving record in the country. Our two deep at RB will make Ingram/Lacey look like scrubs. Donte Jackson could be a huge lift at punt returns and the ever popular "jet sweep".
5. The SEC. Of the 4 teams that beat us last year (that we will play again) - 3 are replacing Qbs. 1 is replacing almost everyone else.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:29 pm to chilge1
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Dillon Gordon
I'm glad you mentioned Big Dillon!
He is so often overlooked.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:38 pm to chilge1
What an awesome effort. Thanks Chilge1, this is the best post in ten years that I have been on this board.
The level of depth and research and time and effort is truly remarkable. I commend you.
Panzer
The level of depth and research and time and effort is truly remarkable. I commend you.
Panzer
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:58 pm to Nuts4LSU
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You could have saved some space and listed the only REAL reason for optimism in 2015. We're one year closer to getting a new coach.
Why would you want to fire a coach that has finished in the top 15, seven out of ten years?
I hate our ignorant and entitled fan base.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:20 am to JaxTiger10
Bump because tRant has been unreadable as of late.
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