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re: Rabalais “CWS less summer leaves many questions about LSU, most are bad
Posted on 6/11/19 at 2:01 pm to LSUJML
Posted on 6/11/19 at 2:01 pm to LSUJML
quote:seriously? how is this possible? i've been posting this info for years. lsu has the best facilities. lsu spends the most. yes, a handful of programs have closed the gap in SOME respects. no one is investing in the sport across the board at the same level as lsu.
As the program that invests the most money in its program,
Link?
if you want to argue that lsu is standing still while others move forward, who's fault is that?
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 2:09 pm to bfniii
You can live in the past if you want, but currently LSU is trending in the wrong direction. The CWS results of the last decade haven’t been great, but I can live with a top 8 finish. The question is how long do you allow the CURRENT trend to continue before a change is needed? So yes, next year is very meaningful. Coaches should be given a year or two, to rebuild when needed, but three years of underachievement is concerning if next year goes bad! It’s Especially concerning with the fixable mistakes being repeatedly made by the players AND the coaches in big games.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 2:21 pm to bfniii
Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:06 pm to LSUJML
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Say CPM retires, how long does the new HC have to meet those expectations?
Ummmmm
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Normal contract window is 5 years.
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Does he get fired if he doesn’t host year 1?
Obviously not. But there are serious conversations being had. Now not hosting two years in row, prolly a much different conversation. And still prolly not fired. But the results in year three better be where they are expected.
You act like the LSU cupboard would be bare? Which if you think it is, shouldn’t that be even more reason to part ways with CPM?
Posted on 6/11/19 at 6:39 pm to Cracking
quote:not sure why this is directed at me
You can live in the past if you want
quote:which has been my point for years. 2017 was great but, it masked the trend. after that season, i was most curious about this season. i knew 2018 was going to be a transition but this season should have made up for last season. it didn't.
LSU is trending in the wrong direction
optimists are saying next year looks great but, lsu started #1 THIS season because of what all pm returned. why is next year going to be different? besides, several programs are proving that you don't have to return gigantic production to make the cws.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:11 pm to TheOfficial
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In the days after losing a heartbreaking NCAA super regional to Florida State in two games, questions abound for the LSU baseball program. Few of them are happy ones. That’s the way of it for a program that thinks of itself the way Alabama does in football and Kentucky does in men's basketball when it falls short of always-lofty goals. The days are long on major speculation and worry and short on concrete answers.
In Rabalais' article, he compared LSU baseball, to Alabama football and Kentucky basketball. I was working, finally able to post the link in the OP. Probably one of Rabalais' best ever.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:26 pm to tigerfoot
quote:not sure where the advocate got their data from because they show vandy spending more than lsu. the d.o.e. article i have previously posted shows lsu spends more. this article, which incidentally substantiates the point i have been making about roi, shows that lsu outspends vandy. regardless, several programs who spend significantly less than lsu are surpassing lsu's cws results over the last decade.
tigerfoot
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:06 pm to bfniii
Thanks for coming through with the links.
The CPM lovers will say we’ll we spend the second most. Not the most blah blah. Then try to saw that since we have more titles than Vandy we are getting more for our return. But in the last 10 years, which program is better?
And Vandy prolly has another title if the kid doesn’t drown. That was prolly Corbin’s best team.
The CPM lovers will say we’ll we spend the second most. Not the most blah blah. Then try to saw that since we have more titles than Vandy we are getting more for our return. But in the last 10 years, which program is better?
And Vandy prolly has another title if the kid doesn’t drown. That was prolly Corbin’s best team.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:37 pm to TrueTigerTale
Idiots defending a coach going 79-53 at LSU is a joke. How stupid can you be? LSU did not deserve to host. FSU upsetting Georgia had everything to do with LSU hosting. 2 years in a row of underachieving. Dude needs to retire and we get a coach who gives a damn
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:19 pm to Bayoufightingtiger
quote:Amen!
Idiots defending a coach going 79-53 at LSU is a joke. How stupid can you be? LSU did not deserve to host. FSU upsetting Georgia had everything to do with LSU hosting. 2 years in a row of underachieving. Dude needs to retire and we get a coach who gives a damn
If I saw improvements in our play, I might not feel this way, but this Super Regional exposed just how bad this coaching staff is.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:28 pm to Bayoufightingtiger
quote:You can’t even enjoy the baseball team hosting a super regional. You must be a miserable person to be around.
LSU did not deserve to host.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:52 pm to TheOfficial
quote:aside from being false, even if we spend 2nd most, we should be roughly 2nd best, especially when looking at a longer time period, like 5-10 years. that has not been the case.
CPM lovers will say we’ll we spend the second most
quote:and that vandy "underachieves" because they have "so much talent." nevermind that they have better cws results than lsu over the last 10 seasons.
Then try to saw that since we have more titles than Vandy we are getting more for our return
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:53 pm to LSURussian
quote:so it's "miserable" to be disappointed with lsu's lack of cws success?
You can’t even enjoy the baseball team hosting a super regional. You must be a miserable person to be around
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:29 am to bfniii
Expectations are higher for LSU baseball more so than for LSU football and basketball. It is what is because LSU fans are used to winning at a high leveling baseball, coaches have just deal with that, no excuses.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:52 am to moneyg
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I think you need to face reality. LSU didn't suck this year. Losing in a Super Regional doesn't move the needle.
Very fair assessment, with a pitching staff in the end led by two FR starters who just recently 'got it together'.
This season was obviously less than optimal, given the returning starters and incoming recruiting class. Injuries to the pitching staff, and the lack of hitting with RISP was detrimental all season. In the end we lost two VERY competitive games to a team playing good ball in college baseball's version of the sweet 16.
CPM needs to take a look at his program and adjust accordingly. From his staff, player development, to handling of injuries, and recruiting evaluations. Make adjustments, and move forward.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:05 am to TrueTigerTale
Not a Paul hater, but also not blind and recognize the recent record and it being reflective of a downward trend in the program. It’s a results business and his recent results aren’t up to the programs historical levels.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:10 am to TrueTigerTale
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3.Is Paul Mainieri in the hot seat? Not at all, but if LSU doesn’t make it in 2020, the pressure will be intense in 2021.
This is off, he's absolutely on the hot seat going into 2020. Fans, and especially a new AD will not accept missing the CWS 4 out of the last 5 years if that were to happen. Even Smoke made the CWS twice in 5 seasons here. He would not have a job in 2021 here if that were to happen, period.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:19 am to thunderbird1100
Eh, id imagine he keeps his job if we are a top 8 seed and lose out in a super
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:37 am to thunderbird1100
Another way to look at LSU fans reaction to the two past seasons. Rabalais compared the expectations of LSU baseball to that of Alabama football. How would Alabama fans react to not winning the SEC tournament nor making the 4 team playoffs year after year?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:58 am to bfniii
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besides, several programs are proving that you don't have to return gigantic production to make the cws.
No you don't but you do have to have solid pitching and LSU relied heavily on freshman this year. It was evident we didn't have an ace on the staff so to speak. Walker and Hess were not what they were projected to be. I think the pitching staff held there own in a few games(in the postseason) that the hitting did not. No excuse for the lack of production at the plate. The only changes that need to be made are addressing the staff as far as the offense is concerned. That has to be figured out and if PM does not change anything going into next year and the results are the same I think PM needs to be talked into retiring. 3 years in a row would be completely inexcusable
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 10:00 am
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