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People say this game doesn't fall on coaching, but I disagree
Posted on 3/19/15 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 3/19/15 at 10:59 pm
While JJ didn't miss free throws or easy layups, our downfall in close games all year have been missed free throws and tired legs.
I liken missed free throws to dropped passes in football. You're supposed to execute, and a couple here a couple there you can live with. However, when it is a trend it is the coaches job to fix the trend. This is not the first game that FT have been a problem.
Now to the tired legs. This team lacked serious depth and it showed. Who's fault is it that we have zero depth? Malone is bad, but you can't tell me that JJ doesn't have any part in his lack of development (or Epps, or Robinson). We needed those guys to give us solid minutes, and apparently, the have not been developed at all.
That has to fall on coaching. Riding Martin and Mickey early on probably led to some wins, but the lack of playing time for some of our younger players had to contribute to our reluctance to put them in crucial games.
I liken missed free throws to dropped passes in football. You're supposed to execute, and a couple here a couple there you can live with. However, when it is a trend it is the coaches job to fix the trend. This is not the first game that FT have been a problem.
Now to the tired legs. This team lacked serious depth and it showed. Who's fault is it that we have zero depth? Malone is bad, but you can't tell me that JJ doesn't have any part in his lack of development (or Epps, or Robinson). We needed those guys to give us solid minutes, and apparently, the have not been developed at all.
That has to fall on coaching. Riding Martin and Mickey early on probably led to some wins, but the lack of playing time for some of our younger players had to contribute to our reluctance to put them in crucial games.
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:01 pm to UpToPar
Why am I not surprised.
And if TQ makes 1 of 2 FTs and Mickey makes 2 of 4 FTs = 50%, LSU wins and you would never post this.
And if TQ makes 1 of 2 FTs and Mickey makes 2 of 4 FTs = 50%, LSU wins and you would never post this.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:03 pm to drizztiger
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And if TQ makes 1 of 2 FTs and Mickey makes 2 of 4 FTs = 50%, LSU wins and you would never post this.
Absolutely. Unfortunately, that's been the story in most of our losses. At some point, the fault lies with the guy that fails to correct the problem.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:05 pm to UpToPar
Preach it brother. Hammer meet nail. I would also add that jones could have run a play where mickey doesn't gouch the ball at all if he would have called a timeout at any point. Why not call a timeout at the end either? Maybe you get a review that shows the guy goaltended it. But he couldn't even think of that.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:05 pm to Rjlebla
Fire Javi
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:05 pm to drizztiger
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And if TQ makes 1 of 2 FTs and Mickey makes 2 of 4 FTs = 50%, LSU wins and you would never post this.
And IF the old frog had wings, he wouldn't bust his old arse when he hops!
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:07 pm to UpToPar
What's this tired legs crap? It's the NCAA Tourney! You gut it out and make your damn free throws. Period. It's what they've dreamed about their whole life, and you're going to blame it on tired legs? Please!
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:07 pm to Rjlebla
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Why not call a timeout at the end either? Maybe you get a review that shows the guy goaltended it. But he couldn't even think of that.
You're reaching...
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:08 pm to tenacious
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What's this tired legs crap? It's the NCAA Tourney! You gut it out and make your damn free throws. Period. It's what they've dreamed about their whole life, and you're going to blame it on tired legs? Please!
Tired legs happen. Coach Pop sits his starters the latter half of the year so they don't get tired legs. These kids aren't robots. There's a reason basketball teams don't ride their 5 best players.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:12 pm to UpToPar
So, JJ is supposed to ride Darcy freaking Malone all the way to NCAA Tournament glory? I can see it now: Malone holds the ball as time expires and "One Shining Moment" starts to play as the Tigers upset Kentucky to win it all. You people are ridiculous.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:14 pm to tenacious
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So, JJ is supposed to ride Darcy freaking Malone all the way to NCAA Tournament glory? I can see it now: Malone holds the ball as time expires and "One Shining Moment" starts to play as the Tigers upset Kentucky to win it all. You people are ridiculous.
Malone is terrible, but god damn we don't have a single big on the bench that can give us quality minutes? If the answer is no, then where does that blame fall? JJ has been here 3 years and we only have 2 competent bigs?
There's either a development problem or a recruiting problem, either way, it's a problem.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:14 pm to UpToPar
It absolutely falls on coaching. Do we even have a coach or did we fill that vacancy with a recruiter and call it a day.
Giving high fives and looking at the court with a blank look on your face is not coaching.
This team needed proper timeouts and play called out of timeouts. None of that happened.
Giving high fives and looking at the court with a blank look on your face is not coaching.
This team needed proper timeouts and play called out of timeouts. None of that happened.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:20 pm to UpToPar
Are you even reading what you write before you post? 3 years? That's a very short amount of time to build a team, especially in college basketball, when players leave early all the time. Give the guy at least five years before you lynch him.
Oh, and by the way... He lead the team to their first Tourney since, what? 2008? I'd say things are improving.
Oh, and by the way... He lead the team to their first Tourney since, what? 2008? I'd say things are improving.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:21 pm to UpToPar
And you probably bitch the second Malone gets in the game and gets 2 quick fouls too huh?
You idiots are out in force. What can LSU sports do good besides go undefeated in every sport?
Are we supposed to have the Kentucky of basketball, 2011 LSU football, 90s baseball, pokey chattman WBB, and a David Toms on the golf team every year?
Unlike your NCAA football game on your Xbox 1800 you can't win every game and just hit restart when you are about to lose. You win some you lose some and you learn a hell of a lot more when you lose.
You idiots are out in force. What can LSU sports do good besides go undefeated in every sport?
Are we supposed to have the Kentucky of basketball, 2011 LSU football, 90s baseball, pokey chattman WBB, and a David Toms on the golf team every year?
Unlike your NCAA football game on your Xbox 1800 you can't win every game and just hit restart when you are about to lose. You win some you lose some and you learn a hell of a lot more when you lose.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:23 pm to tenacious
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Are you even reading what you write before you post? 3 years? That's a very short amount of time to build a team, especially in college basketball, when players leave early all the time. Give the guy at least five years before you lynch him.
Who was the last LSU player to leave early? 3 years is an eternity in college basketball to have more than 2 competent big men on your roster. Hell, basketball is arguably the easiest sport for freshman to come in and have an impact right away. Odo, Malone, and Robinson. None of them could provide quality minutes. Is this is development problem? I think so.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:24 pm to UpToPar
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Tired legs happen. Coach Pop sits his starters the latter half of the year so they don't get tired legs. These kids aren't robots. There's a reason basketball teams don't ride their 5 best players
Mickey free throws were off of the back iron. he wasn't missing the shots short so I fail to see where the "tired legs" come in. They just choked
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:26 pm to SofaKingTrill
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Mickey free throws were off of the back iron. he wasn't missing the shots short so I fail to see where the "tired legs" come in. They just choked
I'm not saying tired legs resulted in missed free throws. We missed a ton of free throws in the first half this year as well. I'm saying lack of focus and fundamentals lead to missed free throws.
Tired legs shows itself more on defense than anything. Maybe Mickey gets up and pulls down the rebound instead of it being tipped in. Maybe we move more on offense and create a shot.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:27 pm to drizztiger
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Why am I not surprised.
And if TQ makes 1 of 2 FTs and Mickey makes 2 of 4 FTs = 50%, LSU wins and you would never post this.
This is what is frustrating. It wasn't coaching IMO, but Martin disappearing late has been a major problem in the bad losses. He just didn't want the ball, unless JJ was telling them do not go to Martin. I doubt JJ said that. The finish was tough to watch, even though it's the same ending we've seen in the bad losses.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:29 pm to UpToPar
Development. The most overused term ever. Maybe they're as developed as they are going to be. Maybe they just don't have it. Maybe they seemed like they might be better than they actually are. Who cares? Are you going to deny that this program is heading in the right direction under JJ?
Posted on 3/19/15 at 11:32 pm to tenacious
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Development. The most overused term ever. Maybe they're as developed as they are going to be. Maybe they just don't have it. Maybe they seemed like they might be better than they actually are. Who cares? Are you going to deny that this program is heading in the right direction under JJ?
So it's a recruiting or talent evaluation problem? Either way, it's a problem that only Jones can fix.
I think Jones has the program heading in the right direction. I'm not calling for his head. But I also recognize that he has some major faults. Next year he is going to be inclined to ride his talent again. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite us again. No matter how talented you are, you need bench contribution to consistently compete with elite teams.
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