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re: Patrick Peterson is not strong and can not tackle

Posted on 2/4/10 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9882 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 6:36 pm to
he must have been joking
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2926 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 6:52 pm to
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I think he is just overly aggressive sometimes. I think he is a good tackler and he is VERY strong for a corner.


+1 on Nugget's summary.

PP is huge and very strong for a corner. And he tackles fine-- I don't recall anybody breaking through his tackles (not to say he hasn't missed a tackle, but once he solidly gets his hands on a player, I don't remember anybody really breaking through his tackle, unlike a couple other players.)

If he has a weakness, it would be that he plays aggressive, so gets burned once in a while. But I really, really don't consider that a weakness. I would much rather him play aggressive and shut down his man the majority of the time and make one or two mistakes, but compensate by making one or two spectacular plays than having him play safe and letting the opponent chip away at him all game but never giving up a 'big' play. With his talent, I'm comfortable to live and die by the sword. I wouldn't for one moment consider suggesting that he play less aggressive.

... and maybe... maybe you could say another weakness is cramps

edit to add: every corner gets beat sometime, even the greatest: Deion Sanders, Champ Bailey, Darrell Green, Rod Woodson... you name it, every one of these guys has been beat for touchdowns, missed interceptions and tackles, etc. Every great recent LSU cornerback: Chevis Jackson, Corey Webster, etc. have all given up more big plays than PP, but aren't criticized for it as much as PP. I don't see any weakness in his game.
This post was edited on 2/4/10 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Threecees
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
117 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 7:14 pm to
Well, I am no NFL talent scout but from Pee Wee football on up, a player is taught to wrap up the runners legs for his best chance of getting a man down. What I saw this season was he was the only one that seemed to get that concept on this defense. Everyone else seemed content just to hit someone hard and assume that would knock them down. From what I understand to be fundamentals, very few players at this level I have seen have the fundamentals of PP. I won't argue that he needs some strength but remember how young he is. He is continously getting stronger working with Moffitt every offseason. He will be ready for the pros whenever he decides to go. And as long as he isn't playing in ankle deep mud, he can cover and shut down any receiver out there.
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22329 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 7:16 pm to
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A friend of mine, talking abt PPs draft stock said this: PP's weakness are his lack of strength and his poor tackling.

as the great Neon Deion says "a great corner's shoulders aren't made for tackling they're made for suits"
Posted by kltiger
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
214 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 8:15 pm to
absolute BS--he talked tebow one and one and brought him down and many others-- he is a great player and will be like the star on the jets before he is done-- come on
Posted by 2geaux
Georgia
Member since Feb 2008
2603 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 8:20 pm to
See Deion Sanders
Posted by TexasTigah
Houston, TX
Member since Mar 2006
12183 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 8:30 pm to
I would no longer be friends with that person.
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11659 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 8:35 pm to
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Patrick Peterson is not strong and can not tackle



not only that, he can't keep his feet inbounds!!!
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26251 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

He also will take chances and get burned.



This was my only complaint with Peterson this year. This happened a couple times if I recall.

That said, it's good and bad, because sometimes it pays off.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9578 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

Patrick Peterson is not strong and can not tackle


Yeah it definitely looks like he needs to hit the weight room...



no shite, dude is a beast...
Posted by TieWrap
Hammond
Member since May 2009
424 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 10:00 pm to
Tell your friend to walk up to PP and discuss this with him. Should work out just fine
Posted by Common sence
Gilbert ,Az
Member since Nov 2009
1013 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 10:01 pm to
He is the best player on lsu team.
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11406 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 10:04 pm to
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See Deion Sanders!
Beat me to it!
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2926 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 10:05 pm to
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This was my only complaint with Peterson this year. This happened a couple times if I recall.

That said, it's good and bad, because sometimes it pays off.


Yep, as I said in my own post, with PP I am willing to live by the sword and die by it. I wouldn't tell him to be less aggressive.

It's similar to an aggressive defense that blitzes a lot (something near and dear to many people here)-- it's an aggressive way to play that gets you burned sometimes, but if done well, can work outstandlingly well.

And, again, every cornerback gets burned. Deion Sanders, Darrell Green, all of them. This year, the damned offense scored so little that every touchdown by the other team seemed tragically memorable, but Peterson certainly wasn't burned much.
Posted by Russell2Bowe
Memphis
Member since Jan 2010
1054 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 10:41 pm to


Posted by ThePlumber
NOLA
Member since Jul 2005
970 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 11:26 pm to
Tell your friend to watch the Washington game again. He must have missed that one.

9 solo tackles (4 more than anyone else on the team), 2 passes broken up, 1 fumble recovered

Peterson is one of the best tacklers, if not the best, on the team.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 2/4/10 at 11:56 pm to
Your friend must be a snivelling whining democrat who knows NOTHING about football (or defense, or strength....you know...typical democrat traits).
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 12:06 am to
For people saying that PP gets burned due to playing aggressive: You can maybe count the times he was burned this season on two hands. Every corner gets burned sometimes, but the fact is PP kept us in the Bama and FLA games, his pick six at State may have made the difference, and I think LSU doesnt beat UGA unless PP keeps AJ Green in check for almost the entire game.

Every player has negatives, but PP is our best overall player...hands down. Focus criticism on other positions.
This post was edited on 2/5/10 at 12:07 am
Posted by KennesawTiger
In your head
Member since Dec 2006
6877 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 12:32 am to
quote:

Focus criticism on other positions.



No.

The vocal majority of the LSU fanbase is not happy unless they can wake up and bite into a shite sandwich every morning.

With the recent successes yesterday on signing day, some people need to find SOMETHING to shite on. Even if it is something ridiculous, like bagging on PP.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 2/5/10 at 12:34 am to
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some people need to find SOMETHING to shite on.


Those people are called snivelcrats.
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