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re: Oregon vs LSU - research to the #1 OC game of the year
Posted on 5/3/11 at 4:50 pm to NawlinsTigah270
Posted on 5/3/11 at 4:50 pm to NawlinsTigah270
The defense isn't an iron curtain though. You want to make it seem like it's nothing we've seen.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 4:54 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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1)Will LSU have a good QB developed in time to play UO?
probably not, functional but not excellent to open the season probably
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2)Will LSU mesh with your new OC and his new offense in time?
probably not very different from last year. More of an effective running team than a passing team
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For UO, the Defense will be even better then last year- who was the only team able to stop Cam.
Auburn played to slow the pace of the game IMO - they figured that was the best way to win instead of trying to beat Oregon in a shootout IMO
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Your thoughts on your team for their first game?
Big question mark. Game of major importance and we don't know much about how good either team will really be... could be a springboard for one team or the other to drive for another BCS NCG tho
Posted on 5/3/11 at 6:14 pm to molsusports
I saw the BCS title game, and that field looked slippery as heck. I thought the field surface played a major role in both teams scoring less than half of their per game average.
As has been pointed out, LSU returns 24 of it's top 30 tacklers from last year, while UO only returns 12 of 20.
If your OL is a concern now, it will not be a pretty game for you. LSU may not have a Nick Fairly, who you couldn't block with last year's OL, but they have a lot of very good DL who be in your backfield all game long.
LSU's defense was the only defense in the SEC last year in the top three in sacks, tackles for loss, and interceptions. It's a well-rounded unit.
I'm sure UO will have a good team and a good year in 2011. But TBH, I'm more worried about that Thursday night game against Mississippi State than I am about our first game against ya'll.
As has been pointed out, LSU returns 24 of it's top 30 tacklers from last year, while UO only returns 12 of 20.
If your OL is a concern now, it will not be a pretty game for you. LSU may not have a Nick Fairly, who you couldn't block with last year's OL, but they have a lot of very good DL who be in your backfield all game long.
LSU's defense was the only defense in the SEC last year in the top three in sacks, tackles for loss, and interceptions. It's a well-rounded unit.
I'm sure UO will have a good team and a good year in 2011. But TBH, I'm more worried about that Thursday night game against Mississippi State than I am about our first game against ya'll.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 6:18 pm to bisonduck
I think this will be an ugly, bizarre game, like the national championship was. HOWEVER, if your Offensive Line is as weak as you say, then it could get really ugly for Oregon. LSU's front D-line tends to punish quarterbacks that don't have great support up front.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 6:35 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Oregon's line isn't weak. In fact, it will be the most highly regarded line we've ever had at Oregon in terms of talent coming out of high school. Oregon has made a living on getting guys way beneath the radar - especially on the oline. All three of the kids we graduated last year were 2* talents out of high school that were groomed. Conversely, this year's group will be one of the 2 star holdovers in Asper (24 starts) and the rest are 4 star guys that were heavily sought after. I believe Armstong is a 3 star but graded as a DT and Greatwood though he was a natural born center. In any case, you get the gist.
The problem isn't the individual talent. It's getting them to work as a unit. 4 of the guys starting will have extensive playing time but not as a unit. Duck fans are skiddish about retooling an oline because of '09 when we returned three with a smattering of start (19 between three of them). We return players with a combined 61 starts. Likewise, these are guys recruited for the current scheme.
Also, in spring Greatwood experiments like crazy and the offense looks way behind. It was little more pronounced this spring but mainly due to the fact that our defense is just as talented and athletic now (remember Oregon was an offensive school in the past).
If the line isn't improving mid fall camp then I will panic. Until then, I have a lot faith in this coaching staff.
The problem isn't the individual talent. It's getting them to work as a unit. 4 of the guys starting will have extensive playing time but not as a unit. Duck fans are skiddish about retooling an oline because of '09 when we returned three with a smattering of start (19 between three of them). We return players with a combined 61 starts. Likewise, these are guys recruited for the current scheme.
Also, in spring Greatwood experiments like crazy and the offense looks way behind. It was little more pronounced this spring but mainly due to the fact that our defense is just as talented and athletic now (remember Oregon was an offensive school in the past).
If the line isn't improving mid fall camp then I will panic. Until then, I have a lot faith in this coaching staff.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 6:42 pm to BigEdLSU
oregon has speed as does lsu. I believe lsu is deeper, recruited better, and has overall depth and experience advantage. Lsu reloads - never gets too far down. OU will need to play above their heads to be close.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 6:54 pm to reed morton
Oregon's last 5 classes rank on average 16th on rivals and the last two were 13 & 9 respectively. In last year's class DeAnthony Thomas was the #1 athlete, Colt Lyerla was #2 and Christian French #5. The four olinemen are exactly what we need to get to the very next level with Andre Y leading the group.
The unit that is my biggest concern is wide receiver. We are going to need one of the 4 incoming kids to step up to stretch the field to open up the running game.
The unit that is my biggest concern is wide receiver. We are going to need one of the 4 incoming kids to step up to stretch the field to open up the running game.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 7:02 pm to bisonduck
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The unit that is my biggest concern is wide receiver. We are going to need one of the 4 incoming kids to step up to stretch the field to open up the running game.
I agree. I thought it was going to be the DL then WR but after the spring it seems y'all be much better than I initially thought.
Imo if any WR will help you it's going to be
the juco kid Vaughn. The others I bet will
RS.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 7:04 pm to LSUintheNW
Most are saying that Kelley out of Fresno is the most polished but, yeah, Vaughn seems the most likely.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 7:07 pm to bisonduck
He's going to be good for you when he sees the field. Comes down to who will pick up the playbook. I have a feeling Sumler is a definite RS
Eta....reason I said Vaughn is he's had college experience. Never know, Kelley could be like Huff. Smarts wise.
Eta....reason I said Vaughn is he's had college experience. Never know, Kelley could be like Huff. Smarts wise.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 7:11 pm to LSUintheNW
Hey, no need to pick on the small guys. We are going to see a lot of double TE spots because we are freakish there. It's going to test LSU's linebackers.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 7:20 pm to bisonduck
Not picking on the small guys, just the slow ones and im not talking speed.
We play the game for a reason. I can't wait.
We play the game for a reason. I can't wait.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 7:24 pm to bisonduck
A lot of people say that if you give a defense the time to prepare for Oregon's spread then they will be able to contain them better.
That said I'd like to see LSU practice in August having one heavy hitter, say Craig Loston, keying on QB Thomas and hitting him clean and hard every time he can. After a few of CL's bombs, Thomas, or any other running QB, will think more about getting laid about than making the right read or an accurate toss.
That said I'd like to see LSU practice in August having one heavy hitter, say Craig Loston, keying on QB Thomas and hitting him clean and hard every time he can. After a few of CL's bombs, Thomas, or any other running QB, will think more about getting laid about than making the right read or an accurate toss.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 7:34 pm to souldog
We had a lot of sets with the qb under center in the spring game. This was a big surprise. Chip Kelly is up to something.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 7:48 pm to bisonduck
If you want a preview of this game, watch the Cotton Bowl with LSU versus Texas A&M. I expect this game to look a lot like that one.
On offense LSU will run the ball, pass when necessary to control the clock and keep Oregon's offense off the field. In short LSU is going to pound the ball between the tackles.
LSU will rely on special teams play to flip the field and make Oregon have to drive a long way to score.
On defense LSU will play nickel coverage if it can as the strenght of team is the secondary.
LSU is big, strong, fast and physical. Something that Oregon isn't used to playing. The match up favors LSU. LSU plays well in dome stadiums.
As always, the teams with the fewest mistakes usually wins.
On offense LSU will run the ball, pass when necessary to control the clock and keep Oregon's offense off the field. In short LSU is going to pound the ball between the tackles.
LSU will rely on special teams play to flip the field and make Oregon have to drive a long way to score.
On defense LSU will play nickel coverage if it can as the strenght of team is the secondary.
LSU is big, strong, fast and physical. Something that Oregon isn't used to playing. The match up favors LSU. LSU plays well in dome stadiums.
As always, the teams with the fewest mistakes usually wins.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 7:51 pm to ozland
I don't expect it to be anything like playing against tamu fwiw. I expect something closer.
Eta...LSU wins but I bet I'll be nervous as hell at the end.
Eta...LSU wins but I bet I'll be nervous as hell at the end.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 8:09 pm to ozland
Oregon has lined up against Stanford the last two years and that is as physical of a team as you get. Look at the talent on Stanfords oline. They use 6 300+ olinemen and a 270 pound full back and Luck who is a physical specimen.
Oregon fans hear this time and time again. We are going to out muscle you. Our dline is not going to get steamrolled, especially not in '11. I would put money on LSU winning but I cap the margin at 7 or maybe 10 points. I also think Oregon has a very legit shot of taking the game.
My guess is that LSU runs the ball stubbornly and it is an effort in futility for the most part. Then JJ, a senior qb, opens up the defense enough to be balanced in the end to win the game.
Oregon fans hear this time and time again. We are going to out muscle you. Our dline is not going to get steamrolled, especially not in '11. I would put money on LSU winning but I cap the margin at 7 or maybe 10 points. I also think Oregon has a very legit shot of taking the game.
My guess is that LSU runs the ball stubbornly and it is an effort in futility for the most part. Then JJ, a senior qb, opens up the defense enough to be balanced in the end to win the game.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 8:35 pm to bisonduck
sorry but this game will be pretty easy for lsu. it may be close up until half time due to possibly a mistake or two by jefferson, but our d will simply win this game for us. i expect at least two scores by them alone. and a large dose of the rb's. yall rushed for 75 yds on auburn on 32 attempts . yall will be lucky to get that on this team. yall's only yds came by passing on auburn and yall will not be able to pass on us. i predict 225 yds total offense or less for yall. with a 17 to 35 type beatdown.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 8:41 pm to thecreelymac
Oregon's hasn't given up more than 31 points since Gerhart/Luck and the monstrous oline '09. Sorry, Luck is as sure fire a 1st pick as we've seen in a decade and Gerhart was a monster. We are literally twice the size on the dline that we were in '09. Barkley and Luck made it past 30 last year. There is no way in hell that LSU's offense gets 35, dude. If we give up 35, I will call it a colossal failure.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 8:44 pm to bisonduck
A local analyst took a look at Oregon's spring game and especially Thomas taking the ball from under center. In those plays, the RB was deeper than most I formation backs would be and the center pulled. Armstrong being a little more athletic and faster won't be taking on the D-Line, but will be pulling around taking on DE's and LB's. It is a way to unbalance the blocking without tipping our hand which way we are going to go. James' touchdown run in the Spring game came from one of these unbalanced plays. Once James is in the open field, he is gone. Barner is half a step behind him. Seastrunk is battling for 3rd string RB right now.
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