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re: Oregon vs LSU - research to the #1 OC game of the year

Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:24 pm to
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keep you out of the nc game


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you will be sick of the sec sec sec chants


You talking to me?

Eta...VT isn't really an elite team btw.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 12:26 pm
Posted by TigerMan327
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:34 pm to
Virginia tech would have played in the national championship in 2007 if we hadn't been in that spot. They were voted above us in computer polls, but us beating them 48 7 put a damper on their chances. They were considered an elite team that year and have consistently been more "elite" than oregon over the past few years
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:40 pm to
Wasnt trying to argue vt against oregon. My opinion is that Oregon has been the better team since 2007 since you mentioned it. Oregon would have been in our spot if Dennis Dixon doesn't go down in 2007. Also Oregon has actually been in a NC game since then. Oregon >VT.....just saying.
Posted by biglil3
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:41 pm to
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DucksflyinPAC


I don't usually get carried away with homer-like predictions BUT...after watching Oregon's spring game I see the game basically decided by JJ
1. if JJ plays bad(which there is a chance) this game could go either way? Wouldn't shock me at all for Oregon to pull out a sloppy game

2. if JJ plays solid...say 15-25,175-200 yds and 2 TD...LSU wins by 10-14 points

3. if JJ has one of the few great games he's had....then I see a possible '07 Va. Tech type result....I don't see the Ducks putting up many points, LSU WILL dominate the LOS
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 12:43 pm
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:44 pm to
no I wasnt talking to you specifically, you just posted last so I replied to it.

VT is no longer considered an elite team.... why?

Because we raped them in 07. That's my point. If you get your arse whooped bad enough, it will knock you out of the hunt for a few years.





But I really do like oregon. I like the way they aren't afraid to come play a high profile game.

VT wasn't scared either though lol.


I just can't wrap my head around the thought of Oregon having a chance to stop our running game. And it's just my opinion so whatever, but it looked to me like Cam took a helmet to the back early in the NC game from Matthews, and he played with major pain the rest of the way. Cam wasn't Cam that night, and we all know that.

I just remember vividly how Oregon has started the CFB season recently. Sluggish.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 12:48 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:46 pm to
I didn't consider them an elite team then, still dont. Very good but not elite. Fwiw....I don't consider Oregon elite either.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:50 pm to
be nice if I could hibernate from now until about 24 hours from kickoff
Posted by BobBoucher
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:54 pm to
Thats the great thing about have a top notch defense. They will keep you in every game, even ones where your QB shits the bed.

I expect this years LSU D to be better yet with more speed up front, plus we all expect better QB play with the new coaches and new QB (Met) pushing JJ if not starting.

Id say advantage: LSU
Posted by Kid Charlemagne
Lawrenceville, GA
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 1:18 pm to
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In my personal view, had LSU had a good QB they would probably of been the best team last year.


Nah, Auburn was the best team last year. They put up a TON of yards against LSU. You've gotta remember, it seemed like Auburn started 5 drives inside their own 5 yard line. They drove the ball a good 50-70 yards and then had to punt or attempt a field goal, etc. If those drives started on their 20 or 30, it could have led to a lot more points. With that being said, LSU was a legitimate top 10- top 5 team last year.

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1)Will LSU have a good QB developed in time to play UO? The one chief week link was QB last year for LSU. Will that link be corrected in time?


I've just got to think Les will play Jefferson. I honestly don't think it'll matter too much who Miles' chooses to play. I think LSU will try and pound the ball and use high percentage,safe throws against our defense.

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2)Will LSU mesh with your new OC and his new offense in time? First game of the year, cob webs usually show then. Plus this is a new offense for you, new OC. What is your thoughts in this department?


All teams have trouble "gelling or meshing" the first game of the year (new offensive coordinator or not). I'm interested to see if we'll be able to click against such a high quality opponent for our first game.

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3)Besides QB, what are your other weakness's you see perhaps with your team in this first game?


I've heard a lot of talk about LSU's defense and especially your defensive secondary being lights out. I'm just curious as to how it can possibly get better with losing Patrick Peterson, Nevis, and Kevin Shephard? Also Tiger fans, what do you think about your linebackers? #22 is pretty damn good, but I don't know about the rest...

My honest opinion, I think we'll have significant trouble moving the ball against LSU. Our offensive line has been shaky at best and I think the combination of speed and size on the LSU front seven will put a damper on the running game. We won't be able to really pound it up the gut and I feel that the LSU defense is just too damn fast to run from side to side on them. We're going to have to get some big plays somewhere unexpected (Ex: Jeff Maehl's 81 yard catch against Auburn) and hopefully eliminate LSU's passing threat. Maybe we can then load the box and limit the running game...force Jefferson to beat us. It'll be a bitch for sure. Like I have said earlier, as a realist, I just don't think the Ducks will win this one. Frankly, because LSU is just better and more talented in my honest opinion. I'm flip flopping on the score though....

LSU-31
Oregon-23

or

LSU-34
Oregon-24
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 1:29 pm
Posted by ccomeaux
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 1:25 pm to
PP7s presence forced teams away from him and towards young players. The DBs may not be better but the D will be able to blitz from both sides and the coverage won't be any worse. Overall, maybe just a tad better.

The D Line will be better. Montgomery coming back, Brockers with a year under his belt and The Freak replacing Nevis.

LBs learned well under KS, we'll be just fine there too.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 1:29 pm
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 1:28 pm to
The reason we expect the secondary to be better is that Simon shut down Julio Jones as a true freshman last year. He's going to be our third down corner. Craig Loston was the number 1 safety out of high school a few years back and should be starting for us. Brandon Taylor is our lone senior in the secondary, and has started when healthy the last 2 years. Claiborne was the target last year, playing opposite CB from PP7 and more than held his own.

Oh and Patrick Peterson leaves and gets replaced with the most electric defensive freshman we have fielded since... Ever? And that was only playing in nickle.

Our two starting corners are preseason AA and if we get you in third and long, EricReid and Tharold Simon come on the field, along with loston, mathieu, Claiborne, and Taylor. This is going to be a rediculously good secondary. LB is the million dollar question, because our freshman AA DE Sam mongomery is back from injury, as well as a very big and physical interior line.

Did I mention Freak Johnson is 300 pounds and runs a 4.6 40?

Good luck ducks.
Posted by geauxaddai
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 1:32 pm to
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Teams quickly find out not to pass against us. If your going to beat us, you will have to run against us.


Since our OL outweighs your DL by an average of 100 lbs, I don't think this will be a problem.
Posted by deuce985
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 1:32 pm to
1.)Most likely not. What you see is what you get from JJ. He might be slightly improved, hope I'm wrong.

2.)Running a similar offense as last year with some tweaks.

3.) The entire middle of our defense. New DT starters and a new MLB. Unproven RBs on offense but I think we'll be ok there. We're always loaded at RB and Ware looks like a monster.
Posted by LSU042
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 1:54 pm to
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For UO, the Defense will be even better then last year- who was the only team able to stop Cam.



So you guys held him to 64 yards rushing and 265 yards passing and you say you guys stopped him better than anyone else. Bama held him to 39 yards rushing and 201 yards passing. Way better if you ask me. Miss St held him to 45 yards rushing and 209 yards passing. From what I gather LSU beat both of those schools last year and both did way better against Cam than Oregon did.


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And we have awesome DB's that are proven ball hawks. Teams quickly find out not to pass against us.


Cam Newton had the third best passing day of his Division 1 career against the ducks throwing for 265 yards. Considering he is not known as a passer I think you might want to re-think that that statement.
Posted by LSU042
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 2:01 pm to
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Nah, Auburn was the best team last year. They put up a TON of yards against LSU. You've gotta remember,


Auburn put 526 yards against us and 519 yards up against Oregon. Not much difference there and both of us were within a score of winning those games. They were not that much better. In fact they sucked on defense last year, especially against the pass. They won the title, but I have no doubt that LSU was a QB away from a national title last year without question. Sadely we may be in the same boat again this year.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 5/3/11 at 2:10 pm to
First of all, I have to dispel a myth flying around this boards:

Weights listed on the AD's site are bogus! Armstrong is not 260 pounds. Most of these players are listed at the same weight since they joined Oregon as incoming freshman. Asper at OT is 325, Weems is 300+, Cody is 296, and York is the smallest at 286. Armstrong has been 285-290 since high school. The center is our strongest (best squat lift) and posted the best shuttle time of the big men this winter. He was also a Nevada heavy weight champ. Kid will not kid steamrolled.

Our dline this year will be stout. Heimuli is 321 and Wade Keliikipi 295. These kids don't have the fat rolls. They are that weight and conditioned for the break neck pace that we run at. Btw, there is no way that Remington is the 290 he is listed. That kid is beastly.

The one player on the dline that jumps out at you is Jordan, the preying mantis. He is listed at 6'7" and 231! Btw, he was a stud against that Auburn line (as a backup he had like 4 tackle and 1 tfl). However, there is no way that kid is 231. Chip Kelly doesn't lavish praise on kids but he said Jordan will be lining at DE on Sundays. Anyway, the dline was a concern going into spring but everyone believes that they should be the best we've had since Ngata, Olshansky, Solomona, and Siavii lined up together in '03.



Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 2:19 pm to
You gave up the 526 on 7.7 yards per play. We gave up the 519 on 6.1 yards and bunch of those came off a freak play. Cam got rocked in that game by Rowe. Your overweight tackles will have tough time on edges.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 2:24 pm to
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The D looses tons of players, but after playing 22 guys in rotation last year much experience is not lacking. The D should be even better in 2011. And we have awesome DB's that are proven ball hawks. Teams quickly find out not to pass against us. If your going to beat us, you will have to run against us.


LSU returns 24 of their top 30 tacklers from last years team. Oregon, returns 12 of their top 20 tacklers.

LSU played 23 True or Redshirt Freshmen(This includes walkons) this past year. Thats a young team.
LSU has 54 players that have lettered.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 2:25 pm to
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Your overweight tackles will have tough time on edges


Why would our DTs play the edges ?
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 2:27 pm to
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You gave up the 526 on 7.7 yards per play. We gave up the 519 on 6.1 yards and bunch of those came off a freak play

Nice moral victory. You lost way more than we did on defense by the way
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Cam got rocked in that game by Rowe

Rowe is not around anymore, buddy
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Your overweight tackles will have tough time on edges

Our tackles are not overweight and very explosive. Do not be surprised when Oregon's o-line is exposed.
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