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re: one of the main reasons i like coach O and think he'll be a success at LSU
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:47 am to Choupique19
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:47 am to Choupique19
YOUR JUST MISERABLE GIVE O A CHANCE HAVE YOU HAD HIS SAUCE PIQUANTE?!
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:47 am to Rickdaddy4188
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There is zero proof of this. Not even a shred of evidence.
The fact that he is the head football coach at LSU is probably enough proof. They obviously liked what he had accomplished at USC and LSU. They got to witness the difference in the team and the moves Coach O made.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:48 am to TigahTeeth
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firing him was the best hire for the program moving forward.
While Les' time was well passed its due, if you can't see how this is such a dumb train of thought then it may be time for you to give up college football.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 8:50 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:49 am to TigahTeeth
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But if anyone questions "O's" football IQ, or his unquenchable thirst for winning, they should pick a new team to pull for.
I thought we lived in the United States. If shitting on lsu's head coach meams your fanhood is revoked the there would be all of 6 lsu fans left.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:51 am to dgnx6
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Just going off recruiting rankings, the last coach left this team more talented than he inherited it.
Orgeron was the recruiting coordinator last year. He gets some of that credit and heavily involved in transforming the d-line including Arden Key the previous year.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:51 am to Broski
quote:so the best coordinators in the country will have direct ties to LSU - seems like a good way to find a new head coach if one was needed.
Sounds good in theory, but that also means there will be a lot of coaching staff turnover because those coordinators will be leaving for head coaching gigs.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:52 am to Tiger Ree
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The fact that he is the head football coach at LSU is probably enough proof.
I hope O proves every doubter, including myself, wrong. But this is such a stupid line of logic. I guess Johnny Jones was greatly improved from his time at UNT and ready for the big time based on the fact that LSU hired him, right?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:54 am to Tiger Ree
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The fact that he is the head football coach at LSU is probably enough proof.
In what way is that proof? What other top program was knocking down O's door to be head coach?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:58 am to LSU GrandDad
I'll say this.
Yes the jury is still out on O as far as how he will perform as the permanent HC at LSU.
I'll also say that during his time as the interim head coach and since he has been hired as full time head coach he has given me VERY little to complain about. Staff looks good, changes to the offense taking us in a much needed direction, recruiting class closed well and pulled a much needed LB from Oklahoma, etc. In the 8 games we coached we were well organized and didn't see any issues with his calls. Save the 3rd down call giving the ball to JD Moore instead of Guice (they learned from this though and in the bowl game went play action to Guice and pass to a wide open TE for a touchdown). UF game as a whole was flukey as hell though. We should not have lost that game.
So far i like what I see. We'll see if that continues
Yes the jury is still out on O as far as how he will perform as the permanent HC at LSU.
I'll also say that during his time as the interim head coach and since he has been hired as full time head coach he has given me VERY little to complain about. Staff looks good, changes to the offense taking us in a much needed direction, recruiting class closed well and pulled a much needed LB from Oklahoma, etc. In the 8 games we coached we were well organized and didn't see any issues with his calls. Save the 3rd down call giving the ball to JD Moore instead of Guice (they learned from this though and in the bowl game went play action to Guice and pass to a wide open TE for a touchdown). UF game as a whole was flukey as hell though. We should not have lost that game.
So far i like what I see. We'll see if that continues
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 9:01 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:59 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Interim tenures are in no way running a program. He didnt choose the coordinators, he didnt run the offense or defense during either of his interim tenures.
The hell it isn't running a program. Does an interim not recruit, not do coaches shows? What does a permanent head coach do that an interim doesn't?
Him not choosing the coordinators at USC and doing what he did is even that much more impressive. He had the same exact team and the same exact coaching staff that Kiffin had. Kiffin had gone 4-7 in his last 11 games. Coach O with the same team went 6-2. Not too bad.
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Interim tenures are in no way running a program. He didnt choose the coordinators, he didnt run the offense or defense during either of his interim tenures.
Hmmm, it must have been someone else who fired Cam Cameron and Bradley Dale Peveto. I could have sworn that was coach O. Who appointed Steve Ensminger as OC and Dennis Johnson (Meatball) to linebackers coach? Who made those moves? I forget.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:00 am to drexyl
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UF game as a whole was flukey as hell though. We should not have lost that game.
You just described 2/3 of Miles' losses at LSU.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:01 am to LSU GrandDad
Great post. He is probably the only coach in the world who wants to have a good defensive line.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:01 am to dgnx6
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I disagree. He didn't recruit and build those teams over the long haul.
You missed the part about him being the Recruiting coordinator at USC beginning in 2010?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:03 am to Choupique19
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There are probably over 100 asst coaches that could have been named interim head coach with those USC and LSU teams and finished 6-2. 6-2 with teams loaded with NFL talent isn't awe inspiring.
I know one coach - who some idiot LSU fans actually wanted to hire as the LSU head coach - who couldn't have taken over USC and gone 6-2. He had just been fired for going 4-7 in last 11 at USC.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 10:39 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:05 am to Rickdaddy4188
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There is zero proof of this. Not even a shred of evidence.
Im not saying he hasnt improved. Im saying no one knows if he has.
Actually I think his 12-4 record in his last two interim gigs is pretty good evidence. Certainly his demeanor on the sidelines is improved. He as learned to delegate and trust his assistants.
Also, as bad as he was at Ole Miss, it took a miraculous rally by the Tigers and a 4th & goal conversion to avoid an epic upset by the Rebs in 2006 in OT. A game in which O outcoached Elmer Fudd.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:06 am to Broski
quote:almost every loss is flukey when you're a really talented team. by flukey i mean it was just an odd sequence of events. those turnovers deep in UF territory were great plays by UF but the fact we were inside the 15 yard line 3 times with no points was pretty crazy. only one i can put directly on the coaches was that call to give it to JD moore at the 1 yard line instead of guice, of course then guice gets it and runs the wrong way.
You just described 2/3 of Miles' losses at LSU.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:10 am to Tiger Ree
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who some idiot LSU fans actually wanted to hire as the LSU head coach
I agree with you there.
But that same guy is the source of an clown show three weeks for LSU because Ed O was 100% convinced that he would hire Kiffin as his OC. We made that stupid offer to the Bama QB commit, almost lost one of our own solid QB commits because of that, and at the end got left at the altar by Ed O's "bff".
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:12 am to Choupique19
quote:i'm pretty happy with our offensive coordinator hire.
But that same guy is the source of an clown show three weeks for LSU because Ed O was 100% convinced that he would hire Kiffin as his OC. We made that stupid offer to the Bama QB commit, almost lost one of our own solid QB commits because of that, and at the end got left at the altar by Ed O's "bff".
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:15 am to Tiger Ree
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The hell it isn't running a program
Its isnt and only someone with little cfb knowledge would say it us. There is a reason interim tenures dont go o official ncaa win losses as a HEAD COACH.
Please explain how not running the offense, not running the defense, not choosing schemes, and not choosing the coordinators is runming a program.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:15 am to Broski
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So that means that O will have to constantly "hit" on these hires and if/when he doesn't, then that means O's coaching will have to cover for those holes and I have absolutely no faith in him being able to do that.
You know who Coach O is responsible for so far:
Dave Aranda getting a raise extension and becoming associate head coach.
Matt Canada becoming the offensive coordinator.
Tommie Robinson the #1 recruiter in the nation for the last signing class becoming the RB Coach.
Meatball - the guy who stole K’Lavon Chaisson from Tom Herman's backyard to LB coach.
Austin Thomas - first job was at Tennessee and went to USC with Coach O in 2010. He left USC in 2013 when Coach O left. Where did he go - oh yeah, LSU.
Coach O besides firing Cam Cameron and BDP has also made excellent hires. If your only concern is the coordinators leaving and Coach O having to replace them I wouldn't worry too much. LSU pays more for coordinators than any team in the country.
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