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re: one of the main reasons i like coach O and think he'll be a success at LSU
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:55 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:55 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Only if youre dumb enough to count interim tenures as running a program.
well, there was quite the attitude change when he took over LSU. both the players and the coaches. sure, we are going to need reinforcement and that means winning football games. I am seeing signs that this team has changed for the better and O is willing to do what he thinks is the right things to do to improve the teams' performance and compete in the SEC West. when he took over, LSU football was stagnant; indeed it was regressing. it appears to me that he has reversed that. Excitement and optimism prevails about LSU football. the players, the coaches and most of the fans are excited again.
of course the O haters are not. they may also want him to fail.
by the way, I may be wrong but I don't put you in that category. you are in a completely different category altogether.
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:56 am to STRIPES
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LSU under dire circumstances
Holy shite, what is your definition of dire? quote:
Personally, I am happy LSU didn't hire Tom Herman as his resume' is built on 2 years of schedules full of patsies and cream puffs.
Then what the frick is O's resume built on?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:57 am to STRIPES
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Orgeron managed to go 6-2 at LSU and was competitive in the two losses.
This is LSU.
Let's just be competitive when we lose to 14 point underdogs in a game in Tiger Stadium after we've ran our mouths all week and started a pregame fight. Good game, good effort.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:57 am to Broski
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I mean, it may work, I'm not saying it won't. However, anybody that feels confident in O is only doing so because it's someone other than Miles.
Other than that, there is absolutely no reason to believe that this was a good hire.
Just think how much we'd be blasting and laughing at another sec program if they wouldve hired our dline coach as their head coach.
As it stands our head coach has the worst resume of any sec head coach and that includes Kentucky's and Vandy's current head coach.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:00 am to LSU GrandDad
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indeed it was regressing. it appears to me that he has reversed that.
Did you see the game against Florida?
A 14 point underdog that was missing tons of defensive starters?
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is willing to do what he thinks is the right things to do to improve the teams' performance and compete in the SEC We
Again, im not saying this wont be true in the future but as of right now there is zero evidence of this.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:02 am to Rickdaddy4188
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As it stands our head coach has the worst resume of any sec head coach and that includes Kentucky's and Vandy's current head coach.
that resume' is going to change my friend. and since that's all you care about i'm sure I won't be alone when you will be the first person I call out when O is successful.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:03 am to LSU GrandDad
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i'm sure I won't be alone when you will be the first person I call out when O is successful.
If you do a lot of talking when LSU goes 10-2 and 11-1 the first two years, will you also be around to take your lumps when LSU is going 8-4 and 7-5 in years 3 and 4?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:05 am to STRIPES
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Coach Orgeron took over at USC and guided them to a 6-2 record after boy wonder (Kiffin) was fired. Orgeron was in the running for that job but Pat Hayden being the genius he is followed his disasterous Kiffin hire with the hiring of Steve "the drunk" Sarkisian.
Wow i never knew that ive been running programs my entire life.
If you think not choosing coodinators, not choosing schemes,not running the offense,and not running the defense means he is running a program then i have been running programs since my birth.
He was chosen to be interim head coach at those stops because 3 of the 4 coordinators at those places were in their 1st year( 4 games) at those jobs.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:05 am to STRIPES
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You can be critical of the losses but in all fairness going 12-4 under those circumstances isn't easy no matter what you think.
Then Orgeron and the LSU staff destroyed Louisville and their "brilliant" head coach along with their Heisman QB in the bowl game.
After the season ended Orgeron and staff put together the #7 recruiting class in the country with 2 of the Top 10 players and 5 of the Top 30 from Texas and flipping some key players from OU and Texas.
First off, 12-4 isn't good enough. That's not winning you titles. Plus, any one can win at LSU, I disagree with that, but it was an argument against Les.
Les Miles also destroyed that brilliant offensive mind, dude wouldn't even shake his hand, and our so called fans would have rather us hire that chump back in 05.
When Les was hired, LSU had 8 commits. When he was fired they had what? 18 already?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:07 am to LSU GrandDad
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that resume' is going to change my friend.
Of course it will. Have you seen his resume? As of now his head coaching resume is being the worst
Head coach in ole miss history.
He was left a program littered with future nfl players and have 2 great coordinators.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:07 am to Broski
Dire circumstances are when a team considered to be a national contender and have a Heisman candidate at RB loses 2 of their 1st 4 games to teams they shouldn't have lost to. Then firing their 11 year head coach only 4 games into the season when to anybody with half a pea for a brain could see this team was about to go in the tank. The recruitng class was doubtful as to whether it was going to be maintained and the staff could have very well packed it in and started looking for new jobs.
Instead LSU managed to salvage the season and get to a decent bowl and won it over the Heisman winner.
That my friend is dire.
Instead LSU managed to salvage the season and get to a decent bowl and won it over the Heisman winner.
That my friend is dire.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:08 am to dgnx6
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When Les was hired, LSU had 8 commits. When he was fired they had what? 18 already?
Saban had literally stopped recruiting.
Miles was hired 1 month before signing day. We had all of 13 revruits sign loi that year.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:09 am to STRIPES
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Dire circumstances are when a team considered to be a national contender and have a Heisman candidate at RB loses 2 of their 1st 4 games to teams they shouldn't have lost to. Then firing their 11 year head coach only 4 games into the season when to anybody with half a pea for a brain could see this team was about to go in the tank. The recruitng class was doubtful as to whether it was going to be maintained and the staff could have very well packed it in and started looking for new jobs.
Instead LSU managed to salvage the season and get to a decent bowl and won it over the Heisman winner.
That my friend is dire.
You didn't live through Curly or the last few years of DiNardo did you?
ETA: Also, thanks for neglecting the second question in that post. shite on Herman's resume but then not mention O's resume at all.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 8:12 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:11 am to STRIPES
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That my friend is dire.
Did you watch the NFL draft the past 3 days? Name Choupique19 as interim head coach for the last 8 games and I could have let Aranda and Ensminger take the team to 6-2.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:14 am to STRIPES
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Instead LSU managed to salvage the season and get to a decent bowl and won it over the Heisman winner.
That my friend is dire.
Holy shite. The previous year we had a 10 win season and finished 16th. Only a dumbass would say thats dire.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:16 am to Bayou
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Player morale is stagnant.
And you know this how?
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:17 am to Choupique19
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Did you watch the NFL draft the past 3 days? Name Choupique19 as interim head coach for the last 8 games and I could have let Aranda and Ensminger take the team to 6-2.
Which is exactly what happened.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:17 am to Rickdaddy4188
The fact is that Orgeron is our coach and the staff likes him. If they didn't they damn sure would have left LSU. Or do you haters honestly think that Aranda, Canada, and most of the staff didn't have other opportunities? Why do you think they stayed or came here all if they didn't like their situation here at LSU?
By the way, this isn't Ole Miss. The job at Ole Miss was a mistake for Orgeron to take at that point. In fact, it has been a dead end job for every coach but Cutcliffe and he ended up at a school with very low expectations. Look at what it took for Hugh Feeze to just get competitive there. Ole Miss is staring at major penalties as a result of cheating which is the only way Ole Miss can have success. The program at Ole Miss is just bad. I don't blame Orgeron for not winning at Ole Miss because the only guy with any real success there is a flagrant cheater.
By the way, this isn't Ole Miss. The job at Ole Miss was a mistake for Orgeron to take at that point. In fact, it has been a dead end job for every coach but Cutcliffe and he ended up at a school with very low expectations. Look at what it took for Hugh Feeze to just get competitive there. Ole Miss is staring at major penalties as a result of cheating which is the only way Ole Miss can have success. The program at Ole Miss is just bad. I don't blame Orgeron for not winning at Ole Miss because the only guy with any real success there is a flagrant cheater.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 8:18 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:17 am to Broski
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you do a lot of talking when LSU goes 10-2 and 11-1 the first two years, will you also be around to take your lumps when LSU is going 8-4 and 7-5 in years 3 and 4?
if I am still kicking, I most certainly will be around to admit I was wrong. i'm sure it will be raining with "i told you so's".
of course, poor ole rickdad will not be able to enjoy it because there will be zero evidence to show that any other candidate would have done better. only opinion and speculation.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:23 am to Rickdaddy4188
I doubt it. If choupique19 would have been named coach every coach on the staff would have left, Canada wouldn't be here, the recruiting class would be dead last in the SEC, and LSU wouldn't have been in a bowl game much less won it.
That's my prediction of your coaching ability and team and staff management skills.
That's my prediction of your coaching ability and team and staff management skills.
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