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Ohio State 4 LSU 3

Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:31 am
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:31 am
I can’t really get on the bandwagon with you TD posters in regards to, “LSU no doubt should be No.1.” I think it’s 1A vs 1B, and the committee has virtually said the same.

I would put LSU in at No.1, but when the committee looks at Top 25 victories and sees that Ohio State has four and LSU has three, and uses that to justify ranking one team over the other, I can understand where they are coming from.

Next week, when Memphis beats Cincy and LSU beats UGA, and Ohio State beats Wisconsin for the second time, you’ll be looking at each team having four wins against top 25 opponents, with LSU’s four being better than Ohio State’s four. If this truly is a 1A vs 1B situation as the committee says it is, with the margin of resume being so slim, the committee should place LSU #1 this Sunday.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14407 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:32 am to
But then the committee will drop whatever teams it needs to drop in the rankings to ensure that OSU has a "better resumé."
Posted by Fonzarelli
Dallas
Member since Jan 2015
3972 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:33 am to
Just win. Yes -- I'd rather play Utah/Baylor/OU than clemson. But how sweet is this season going to be when we look back and say we beat:

Texas
Florida
Auburn
Alabama
A&M
Georgia
Clemson
Ohio State

No team has ever had a season where they beat a similar listing of teams like this before. If they had, I'd like to see it.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Top 25 victories and sees that Ohio State has four and LSU has three


Stop with this BS narrative.

It makes two huge and terrible assumptions.

1. That Cincinnati is actually good.

2. That teams dont change throughout the year.

Texas in week 2 is not the same Texas team in week 15. That week 2 Texas team would beat the living shite out of this current version.

YOU HAVE to use the rankings as they were when the teams played. shite happens throughout the season. Teams deal with injuries, players getting better or worse, their seasons being ruined and they stop playing like they give a damn, adjustments in game planning or scheme, etc.

And, yes. I dont agree with ranking teams that early in the season. I think they should wait until about halfway through. But if youre going to rank teams that early, then use the fricking rankings. You cant have your cake and eat it too. You cant have it both ways.

Teams are dynamic, Not static. Its obvious that teams can get better through out the season. Thats why teams can climb so far in the rankings. People forget, they can also get worse.
Posted by Jmonsta2243
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1333 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:47 am to
The committee dictates the top 25. They have teams up to 7 spots behind where they are in the AP and coaches poll. What do you mean?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93696 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:48 am to
quote:

you’ll be looking at each team having four wins against top 25 opponents, with LSU’s four being better than Ohio State’s four.

Also, Mullens used "high ranked opponents" this week when differentiating Clemson from LSU and OSU. LSU should have better high ranked wins if chalk holds. What metric will they use then?
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9037 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:49 am to
Still Texas is better than Cincinnati.
Posted by FlaFlash
Member since Dec 2019
234 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:50 am to
Bs. The fact you can count cinn as a legit top 25 team is comical. They would be 6-6 at BEST with a&Ms schedule.

Line up bama, aub, fl against wisc, Penn St, Michigan...who you got? Lol

Explain why 10-2 Minn is now #18, while 10-2 Penn State, who lost to Minn, is #10
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:51 am to
Omg, someone on here is being honest, rational, and unbiased - he must HATE LSU!

quote:

with LSU’s four being better than Ohio State’s four. If this truly is a 1A vs 1B situation as the committee says it is, with the margin of resume being so slim, the committee should place LSU #1 this Sunday.

Not only this, but LSU's 4 ranked wins will ALL be current top 10 teams.

But you can't tell people on here this, they're children, they would rather the CFP conspire against LSU. They want that to be the narrative... for who knows what reason. It's a lack of maturity thing. They're naive and they've never left their small home town.
Posted by Fonzarelli
Dallas
Member since Jan 2015
3972 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:51 am to
quote:

YOU HAVE to use the rankings as they were when the teams played. shite happens throughout the season. Teams deal with injuries, players getting better or worse, their seasons being ruined and they stop playing like they give a damn, adjustments in game planning or scheme, etc.


You don't have to use them solely but they should be factored in.

If LSU scores a touchdown to start the second half against Texas and Alabama, neither of those games ever gets close again and no one is questioning our defense.
Posted by FlaFlash
Member since Dec 2019
234 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:51 am to
Look for ga to tumble, much like bama
Posted by FlaFlash
Member since Dec 2019
234 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:53 am to
Explain Minn at 18 and Penn State at 10. I'll shut up and listen.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Also, Mullens used "high ranked opponents" this week when differentiating Clemson from LSU and OSU. LSU should have better high ranked wins if chalk holds. What metric will they use then?

Why do you keep clinging to it only being one metric??? Why can't they be using several different metrics? That vary slightly week to week depending on how games play out.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:55 am to
quote:

If LSU scores a touchdown to start the second half against Texas and Alabama, neither of those games ever gets close again and no one is questioning our defense.

Except for 90% of the rant on Saturday. The very same people bitching and crying about the CFP penalizing LSU for their defense. It's quite comical.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93696 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Why do you keep clinging to it only being one metric???

Because the head of the playoff committee is using the one metric as the deciding factor. Do you need a better reason?
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:58 am to
quote:

What metric will they use then?
Whatever metric they want.... without any accountability.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Still Texas is better than Cincinnati.

Just wanted to point out the eye test used here - ya know, the metric you despise.

But is Texas better than Cincy? Texas was extremely close to losing against Kansas. They also lost to 7-5 Iowa St.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:00 pm to
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Because the head of the playoff committee is using the one metric as the deciding factor.

What in the world makes you think this? He said OSU has been the most consistent team. He's also said this about other teams. They clearly use consistency and resume as their way of ranking teams.

Not only has Mullens said this - OSU has shown it. They have shown to be the most consistent and their ranking reflects that.

2-3 weeks ago, OSU, though having shown consistency, didn't have the resume to be #1.

All the metrics matter and the CFP has shown that they matter.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 12:03 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:01 pm to
3 loss Cincinnati with ZERO top 25 wins and narrow victories over 4-8 Tulsa, 4-8 USF, and 4-8 ECU should not be close to the top 25. They lost lost like 42-0 to Ohio State and by 10 to #18 Memphis, but they only dropped from #19 to #20.

It makes absolutely no sense, but I digress.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93696 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Because the head of the playoff committee is using the one metric as the deciding factor.

What in the world makes you think this?



He actually explains these things on the rankings show. He's used complete team. defensive metrics, top 19 wins and high quality wins all separately in different situations to justify the rankings. Either you aren't watching or just want to argue.
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