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re: Ohio State 4 LSU 3
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:09 pm to El Campo Tiger
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:09 pm to El Campo Tiger
We will have to beat Ga by 30 and probably OSU have a close game with Wisc to move up. I think we should be #1 now, but Committee is doing crap like having Wisc above Fla etc to keep OSU #1 cause they want to.
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:09 pm to TchPowDog
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But is Texas better than Cincy? Texas was extremely close to losing against Kansas. They also lost to 7-5 Iowa St.
Cincy's wins against East Carolina, Central Florida, South Florida and Temple were by a combined 11 points.
Their last 3 games were beating 4-6 Central Florida by 3 (20-17), beating 7-4 Temple by 2 (15-13), and losing by 10 to Memphis.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:11 pm to El Campo Tiger
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Next week, when Memphis beats Cincy and LSU beats UGA, and Ohio State beats Wisconsin for the second time,
They basically implied that next week's ranking don't matter. This week was the end all be all in regards to the way they look at quality wins. It's lunacy.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:11 pm to El Campo Tiger
THIS is what the committee is hoping people will see when looking at their rankings! Their rankings obviously favor the Big 10, but if you don't look into very much then you wouldn't know that. Please explain how Wisconsin should be higher than Florida. Try to tell me Alabama wasn't a top 4 team when we beat them. This committee sucks.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:12 pm to nola000
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Texas in week 2 is not the same Texas team in week 15. That week 2 Texas team would beat the living shite out of this current version.
YOU HAVE to use the rankings as they were when the teams played. shite happens throughout the season. Teams deal with injuries, players getting better or worse, their seasons being ruined and they stop playing like they give a damn, adjustments in game planning or scheme, etc.
And, yes. I dont agree with ranking teams that early in the season. I think they should wait until about halfway through. But if youre going to rank teams that early, then use the fricking rankings. You cant have your cake and eat it too. You cant have it both ways.
Teams are dynamic, Not static. Its obvious that teams can get better through out the season. Thats why teams can climb so far in the rankings. People forget, they can also get worse
I totally agree about using rankings when the teams played. I think incorporating both may be better. Most importantly, get rid of the fricking eyeball OPINION and replace that with a computer ranking like the BCS used.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:14 pm to TchPowDog
I've been to 46 States, 13 countries. I'm fairly mature. I'm still waiting on you to explain the Minn ranking compared to Penn State.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:16 pm to studentsect
South Florida and East Carolina were both 4-8.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:16 pm to El Campo Tiger
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I would put LSU in at No.1, but when the committee looks at Top 25 victories and sees that Ohio State has four and LSU has three, and uses that to justify ranking one team over the other, I can understand where they are coming from.
Top 25 is such an arbitrary cutoff. Also, teams at the upper end are far more impressive than teams at the lower end.
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Next week, when Memphis beats Cincy and LSU beats UGA, and Ohio State beats Wisconsin for the second time, you’ll be looking at each team having four wins against top 25 opponents, with LSU’s four being better than Ohio State’s four. If this truly is a 1A vs 1B situation as the committee says it is, with the margin of resume being so slim, the committee should place LSU #1 this Sunday.
I'm almost certain the CFP moved Ohio State last week to #1 so they could justify keeping them there when the conference championship is complete.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:20 pm to slackster
That, and they shot Wisconsin up and dropped bama hard. Not much they could do with 3 loss Michigan but they kept them basically where they were despite a 30 point home loss. They dropped Minn like a load of steel because Minn didn't play Ohio. I agree, they were setting the stage. Watch ga tumble when lsu wins. Watch cinn remain in top 25 when they lose yet again.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:23 pm to TigerLunatik
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He actually explains these things on the rankings show. He's used complete team. defensive metrics, top 19 wins and high quality wins all separately in different situations to justify the rankings. Either you aren't watching or just want to argue.
God damn, dude. Do I really have to do this little exercise for you?
Week 13 Rankings
Resume
LSU >>> OSU
Consistency
OSU >>> LSU
They decided LSU is #1 (LSU got the edge this week)
OSU defeats #8 Penn St
LSU defeats Arkansas
Week 14 Rankings
Resume
LSU > OSU
Consistency
OSU >>> LSU
They decided OSU is #1
OSU defeats #15 Michigan
LSU defeats A&M
Week 15 Rankings
Resume
OSU = LSU
Consistency
OSU > LSU
Edge goes to OSU for #1
OSU has destroyed everyone they've played. OSU's worst game is an 11-point win against current #10 Penn St (in which OSU was in complete control until they made mistakes that helped Penn St).
Mullens is just telling you what metric was the deciding factor THIS WEEK because it changed from the previous week - as you can see, these metrics are different week to week. I mean, you seem to be a smart, honest guy, can you really not infer any of this?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:31 pm to TchPowDog
You're making this specifically about LSU and OSU when I'm talking about the overall rankings. But, if you want to break it down to just those two, if LSU beats UGA next week LSU will have the edge in all of those except this all year consistency thing.
IMO they think OSU is the best team and they are manipulating the rankings to justify moving them to number 1 last week after the media backlash. In no way do I think it's a conspiracy against LSU. I don't believe in any of that shite with the SEC or officiating or that the SEC wants Bama to win or whatever.
There are just too many inconsistencies in the way they try to justify the way they rank all of the teams.
IMO they think OSU is the best team and they are manipulating the rankings to justify moving them to number 1 last week after the media backlash. In no way do I think it's a conspiracy against LSU. I don't believe in any of that shite with the SEC or officiating or that the SEC wants Bama to win or whatever.
There are just too many inconsistencies in the way they try to justify the way they rank all of the teams.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:31 pm to FlaFlash
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I've been to 46 States, 13 countries. I'm fairly mature
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I'm still waiting on you to explain the Minn ranking compared to Penn State.
What about it? Contrary what you idiots think, they CFP looks at who you beat and how you beat them.
Minnesota won a close game to Penn St.
Minnesota got dominated by Wisconsin.
Minnesota has a lot of close wins this year against far lesser teams
Penn St has two ranked wins and they've, BY FAR, given OSU their toughest game of the year.
Penn st. is #10
Minn is #18
Happy?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:39 pm to TigerLunatik
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if LSU beats UGA next week LSU will have the edge in all of those except this all year consistency thing.
I agree. LSU would have the better resume if they beat UGA this weekend - and it will be a much better resume. LSU will have 4 current top 10 wins if they win this weekend. OSU will have maybe one. Because Wisky will fall out, Baylor/Oklahoma will fall out. Utah could fall out with a loss. This would push Auburn and Bama back into the top 10.
The CFP has shown that resume matters - they showed this when they put LSU above OSU. Therefore, next week LSU's resume will have to out-weigh OSU's consistency. And I think that is possible. Especially if Wisky keeps it close.
But I'm certainly not going to say the CFP is putting other teams in the appropriate spots just to keep OSU at #1 - that's asinine.
I agree with all the other rankings from this week too. It makes sense. If you bring up Cincy and say they shouldn't be in the top 25, then tell me who should take their place.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:45 pm to El Campo Tiger
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Next week, when Memphis beats Cincy and LSU beats UGA, and Ohio State beats Wisconsin for the second time, you’ll be looking at each team having four wins against top 25 opponents, with LSU’s four being better than Ohio State’s four. If this truly is a 1A vs 1B situation as the committee says it is, with the margin of resume being so slim, the committee should place LSU #1 this Sunday.
cincy loses they shouldn't be in the top 25. Thats why this committee sucks they will keep them in there.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:47 pm to El Campo Tiger
Fox guarding the hen house makes so much sense in manipulating the rankings.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:57 pm to El Campo Tiger
I think the whole thing has been way over discussed but the one thing I have not seen anyone mention is the following:
Currently Auburn and Alabama are 11 and 12. However
#6 Oklahoma plays #7 Baylor...so 1 team has to lose pushing them behind Alabama and Auburn.
#1 Ohio State most likely beats #8 Wisconsin pushing them behind Alabama and Auburn.
#2 LSU would have to beat #4 Georgia for this scenario to play out
This in theory (not guaranteed) would leave the final rankings as
Georgia #6
Florida #7
Auburn #9
Alabama #10
That leaves LSU having beaten 4 top 10 teams in the final rankings. There is your eye test.
Apologize if this has been mentioned in the many threads on this subject.
Currently Auburn and Alabama are 11 and 12. However
#6 Oklahoma plays #7 Baylor...so 1 team has to lose pushing them behind Alabama and Auburn.
#1 Ohio State most likely beats #8 Wisconsin pushing them behind Alabama and Auburn.
#2 LSU would have to beat #4 Georgia for this scenario to play out
This in theory (not guaranteed) would leave the final rankings as
Georgia #6
Florida #7
Auburn #9
Alabama #10
That leaves LSU having beaten 4 top 10 teams in the final rankings. There is your eye test.
Apologize if this has been mentioned in the many threads on this subject.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:00 pm to W0094545
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This in theory (not guaranteed) would leave the final rankings as
Georgia #6
Florida #7
Auburn #9
Alabama #10
You would think that, but with the way they've moved Baylor and Minnesota up and down in the rankings along with the Bama plummet there's just no telling what they're gonna do.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:02 pm to TchPowDog
Lmfao. You could have just said, I can't explain it, other than it bolsters up the resume for Ohio State. Both teams are shite. Both teams finished 10-2. Minn beat Penn State hth. Penn State is ranked 8 spots higher. Btw, while you are trying to justify the rankings and big 10 in general, Penn State was in a dogfight with fkn RUTGERS until late in the second half. Give me a fkn break.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:03 pm to TigerLunatik
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This in theory (not guaranteed) would leave the final rankings as
Georgia #6
Florida #7
Auburn #9
Alabama #10
You would think that, but with the way they've moved Baylor and Minnesota up and down in the rankings along with the Bama plummet there's just no telling what they're gonna do.
I agree. And if Oregon beats Utah they may move them into the top 10. Still at the end of the day beating say 4 top 11 or 12 teams should be enough. But who knows what there criteria/agenda is.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:05 pm to Fonzarelli
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Texas
Florida
Auburn
Alabama
A&M
Georgia
Clemson
Ohio State
Two of these teams don’t belong, and they’re from the same state.
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