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re: OBJ and Landry TIE for new record
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:09 pm to Topwater Trout
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:09 pm to Topwater Trout
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if your best player says he wants to play and is good to go you let him
He wasnt good. He was going to sit out and then got into it with florida players. Do you even pay attention to lsu?
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so you believe mett reached a point where he quit developing?
Im saying his ints were 500 attempts later during a very productive season. During seasons where mett made huge jumps in play and production
Do you give miles credit for developing Mett into a nfl qb?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:12 pm to vidtiger23
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Defense was the reason we lost the Georgia game. It was horrendous. It got to the point that I was fully expecting them to score points every time they had the ball.
The defense probably takes 95% of the blame for the UGA loss, but when the defense finally did get a stop, the muffed punt occurred.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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He wasnt good. He was going to sit out and then got into it with florida players. Do you even pay attention to lsu?
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If LF said to you I want to give it a go you would say no?
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Im saying his ints were 500 attempts later during a very productive season
would you say a QB is probably better with 600 attempts or 500 attempts?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:15 pm to tgerb8
Congrats to OBJr & JLandry, Fam!, Boys From The Boot!
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:16 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Do you give miles credit for developing Mett into a nfl qb?
no.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:17 pm to John Casey
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The defense probably takes 95% of the blame for the UGA loss, but when the defense finally did get a stop, the muffed punt occurred.
In my opinion if OBjr doesnt muff that punt we win that game. We were going back and forth and that loss of a possession was the difference.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:19 pm to Topwater Trout
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no.
The dont blame miles for an int in week 8 of 2013 because of lack of playng time during 2011.
2012 mett was in no way a nfl qb.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:20 pm to tgerb8
Less Points Miles is the answer to your question...
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:23 pm to Topwater Trout
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LF said to you I want to give it a go you would say no?
Yes because i know he wasnt good enough to play until the fight.
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would you say a QB is probably better with 600 attempts or 500 attempts?
No person that understands football would blame an ints at attemp 550 on not beginning development earlier.
Its telling that you dont blame Orgeron for losing against florida.
Maybe if Orgeron wouldve given Guice more carries during a close bama game instead of just blowouts, guice doesnt run the wrong way. Maybe he holds onto the ball better but thats the thing with you.
You blame everything on miles and explain it away for orgeron.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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The dont blame miles for an int in week 8 of 2013 because of lack of playng time during 2011.
don't tell me who to blame for what
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:24 pm to LSUStar
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This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:30 pm to Topwater Trout
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don't tell me who to blame for what
Well its completely ignorant to blame a coach for an int yet not giving him credit for getting a qb to the nfl.
So you give Miles credit for mett having one of the most productive season in lsu history?
Orgeron is to blame for Guice's fumbles and running the wrong way.
His lack of playing time in close games is completely on the interim hc.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:34 pm to tgerb8
Welcome to 2 weeks ago OP. Glad you could catch up.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:35 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:Dat sorry arse defense doe...
amazing! and some people still think we didn't squander talent with Mett, Hill and those 2
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:40 pm to Rickdaddy4188
blaming a coach for not developing a player isn't blaming him for a specific interception...are you incapable of realizing that with more playing time in 2011 he may have been a better QB in 2013? is it really that hard for you to comprehend that QB's improve with more reps? I mean shite we should just have freshmen QB's stepping in and lighting it up according to you...frick reps and development they should be as good on 1st pass as the 500th.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:46 pm to Topwater Trout
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blaming a coach for not developing a player isn't blaming him for a specific interception.
You blame him for ints in 2013 yet dont give him credit for turning mett into one of the most productive qbs in lsu history.
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is it really that hard for you to comprehend that QB's improve with more reps
How much better did you expect mett to get during 2013?
At no point did i say resp dont make a qb better. I said blaming miles for not giving mett 50 damn pass attempts in 2011 is utter ignorance, but hey eveyone already expects that out of you.
So do you now blame Orgeron for guice running the wrong way and fumbling?
You clearly dont understand that giving rbs carries in close situations is meaningful. Are you really saying amount of carries doesnt matter to rbs ball security issues and carries dont matter when knowing which way to run on plays?
I love when people like you talk yourself into corners.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I said blaming miles for not giving mett 50 damn pass attempts in 2011 is utter ignorance,
this is going no where
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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this is going no where
It really isnt brother.
Lets just end it by saying,"Congrats OBJr and Landry!"
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:02 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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"Congrats OBJr and Landry!"
2 of my favorites and I always get them for my fantasy teams
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:The point being, if you don't have an option QB, you don't run the option and no, JJ was not an option QB.
But he wasnt hurt.
quote:Except it didn't. We scored 9 fricking points. Hell. Alabama outgained LSU. By that definition, THEIR offense "worked" in November.
The option was the only scheme that worked against bama
quote:Saying it's the only reason we managed to win in November and saying it "worked" are two entirely different things. If you can't admit that, you're not capable of being honest. NEITHER team's offense "worked" in November. Hence, the point of my original post in this thread.
Holy shite. If you cant admit that the option was he only reason we had offensive success on 11/5 then we should just stop here.
quote:At no point in his career would what we ran with JJ be labeled as anything like what a team like Georgia Southern does.
No its not. JJ is the lsu career and single season qb rushing record holder. Stop acting like him running the option was this wild concept.
Yes, it was a wild fricking concept to go back to what did NOT frickING WORK in November and see if it worked when Saban had a month to think about it.
In no version of reality did our offense "work" in November. We snuck in a 74 yard drive when Bama hadn't prepared for the option just before half.
We had 239 yards total, 222 in regulation. Other than catching Bama unprepared for one drive, we amassed a Grand total of 148 yards in Regulation and frick, 33 of those came in drives with JL.
On no planet is can anything our offense did on November 5th be labeled "working". You'll note, I didn't say "with JJ at QB". No, NOTHING about our approach on November 5th can be said to have "worked".
Hell. Bama gave up a grand total of 93 second half yards to LSU. They figured out our "working option" in about fricking 30 minutes.
So, yes. The only reasonable thing to do was assume that given a month, they'd have trouble with it.
There is NO defending the bull shite Miles SHOWED UP with on 1/9. None, nada, zilch zero. The fact he didn't even try to change after showing up with the bull shite was just the nasty icing on the shite cake.
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