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re: No more Mike the Tiger in Tiger Stadium? WTF?
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:05 am to AaronDeTiger
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:05 am to AaronDeTiger
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Keep giving in to their crap and we will eventually find ourselves fighting to even have a tiger.
I promise you this. They'll rationalize that as well. There's absolutely nothing they wont cave to. Nothing whatsoever.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:16 am to AaronDeTiger
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Keep giving in to their crap and we will eventually find ourselves fighting to even have a tiger.
Pretty fallacious
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:20 am to TigerBait1127
Really? Next his habitat will not be up to standard and will have to double in size. After enlarging the enclosure it will then have to be a private location so that people can only see him at operating hours.
The roadblocks are designed to eventually have the university question whether it is even worth having a live tiger.
The roadblocks are designed to eventually have the university question whether it is even worth having a live tiger.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 8:25 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:24 am to AaronDeTiger
Yea, still a fallacy.
Accreditation would be a very nice accomplishment and actually help ensure the future of having a live tiger on campus.
Awfully slippery
Link to the roadblock designs?
The university has questioned whether it is worth having a live tiger and has emphatically responded with YES and given their sound logic in defense of the decision.
Accreditation would be a very nice accomplishment and actually help ensure the future of having a live tiger on campus.
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Next his habitat will not be up to standard and will have to double in size. After enlarging the enclosure it will then have to be a private location so that people can only see him at operating hours.
Awfully slippery
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The roadblocks are designed to eventually have the university question whether it is even worth having a live tiger.
Link to the roadblock designs?
The university has questioned whether it is worth having a live tiger and has emphatically responded with YES and given their sound logic in defense of the decision.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 8:50 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:59 am to TigerBait1127
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It is anticipated that continued peer review and feedback, often from applicants, as well as industry innovations, will result in a methodical updating of these standards. Proposed changes are typically reviewed each December.
global Federation of Animal sanctuaries
You haven't noticed how the SJWs operate incrementally?
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:07 am to AaronDeTiger
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It is anticipated that continued peer review and feedback, often from applicants, as well as industry innovations, will result in a methodical updating of these standards. Proposed changes are typically reviewed each December.
Sounds like every single certification process that exists in any industry
Their website is actually blocked at work
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You haven't noticed how the SJWs operate incrementally?
No, SJWs are already calling for LSU to get rid of the tiger. They don't operate incrementally, they go too far immediately.
Are you under the impression that become accreditation means that the process is controlled by SJWs?
The Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries
What is your issue with the Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries? Put forward a logical argument against them and against LSU become accredited without just throwing slippery slopes
Personally, I'm not an expert on live tigers, so I tend to try and research the experts in the fields opinions, arguments, and facts before creating my own opinion.
From everything I've read, LSU provides Mike with the highest quality of care via Dr. Baker, and it is time to get accreditation to reflect the standards and integrity that I believe we show in his treatment.
Bottom line: this is a preemptive strike against SJW's to ensure the ability to get tigers in the future:
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"These rescue tigers come up constantly," Baker said. "There are so many of them. There will be no problem in identifying an excellent tiger in need of a sanctuary home."
The renovations being made seem great to me too given our weather:
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He said the university will also transform the center column that holds up the mesh above the habitat to look more like a tree, add a hot and cold rock that can warm up or cool down the tiger as he strolls outside, repaint chain link fencing and repair some night house structures.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 9:17 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:23 am to TigerBait1127
I don't like being told what I can and can't do with my own things. The people who run these types of organizations have stated that "I'm very glad they're not doing that. I think it still sends the wrong message to keep a cat in a glass case just to say you have one, but it's a whole lot better than what they had," said the founder CEO of Big Cat Rescue in Tampa, Florida.
I believe it boils down to whether someone thinks it's OK to have a tiger in a cage. These peoples stated goal is to end that. Why do you want to play ball with them? Yes, this is a slippery slope we are getting on.
I believe it boils down to whether someone thinks it's OK to have a tiger in a cage. These peoples stated goal is to end that. Why do you want to play ball with them? Yes, this is a slippery slope we are getting on.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:25 am to AaronDeTiger
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don't like being told what I can and can't do with my own things.
Except that isn't what this is doing. This is telling you what you need to get someone else's thing.
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. I think it still sends the wrong message to keep a cat in a glass case just to say you have one, but it's a whole lot better than what they had," said the founder CEO of Big Cat Rescue in Tampa, Florida.
I believe it boils down to whether someone thinks it's OK to have a tiger in a cage. These peoples stated goal is to end that.
That one facility CEO speaks for the entire industry?
News to me. Also, your quote reflects EXACTLY what I said.
Obviously not a standard for accreditation....
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 9:28 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:33 am to TigerBait1127
You want to be accredited so that you can be told what you have to do to be able to be given an old diseased tiger and go through the process every 8 years.
All the while, this guy can get a healthy 4 month old tiger in Mexico that would live 20-26 years in captivity.
fox news
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LSU's choice to target a young, male tiger could complicate the process, as many animals who wind up in sanctuaries are older and not in good health, Leahy said. She said she would prefer for LSU to be more flexible in its search.
All the while, this guy can get a healthy 4 month old tiger in Mexico that would live 20-26 years in captivity.
fox news
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:38 am to AaronDeTiger
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given an old diseased tiger and go through the process every 8 years.
That isn't what the quote you linked said actually.
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as many animals who wind up in sanctuaries are older and not in good health,
I don't think that says all, I believe it says many.
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All the while, this guy can get a healthy 4 month old tiger in Mexico.
What's your point? frick that guy. Should we strive to be more like Mexico?
Sounds like a young tiger that needs to be rescued.....
That shows there will be a place for zoos in the future as long as captive tigers continue to be bred for private purchase
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 9:42 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:42 am to TigerBait1127
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Obviously not a standard for accreditation....
What's not? Not moving the tiger for any other reason than medical is a standard for accreditation through GFAS.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:44 am to AaronDeTiger
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What's not? Not moving the tiger for any other reason than medical is a standard for accreditation through GFAS.
The quote I had right above my comment....
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think it still sends the wrong message to keep a cat in a glass case just to say you have one, but it's a whole lot better than what they had," said the founder CEO of Big Cat Rescue in Tampa, Florida.
I believe it boils down to whether someone thinks it's OK to have a tiger in a cage. These peoples stated goal is to end that.
Show me where that's a requirement of the accreditation.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 9:46 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:48 am to TigerBait1127
My point is we could go out right now and get a healthy 4 month old tiger that would live 20-26 years in our top of the line facilities that we are renovating with upgrades that are not required for accreditation, tomorrow. And not play the SJW game. But some people like to contribute to the pussification of America because they don't have the balls to say that "we think it's OK to have a live tiger in a cage and we are going to take the best care of him that we can and we don't give a **** if you like it."
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:50 am to TigerBait1127
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That group will not accredit a so-called sanctuary unless its animals are not moved from their enclosures for non-medical reasons. Parading Mike at home games would prevent LSU from receiving its accreditation.
It's in the article.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:51 am to AaronDeTiger
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My point is we could go out right now and get a healthy 4 month old tiger that would live in our top of the line facilities
Sure, if we paid for one.
That's kind of the entire point though. Zoos and sanctuaries have standards on transferring tigers.
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And not play the SJW game. But some people like to contribute to the pussification of America because they don't have the balls to say that "we think it's OK to have a live tiger in a cage and we are going to take the best care of him that we can and we don't give a **** if you like it."
What a hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still waiting for a logical argument against Dr. Baker's or for you to offer solid reasoning against accreditation.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:52 am to AaronDeTiger
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That group will not accredit a so-called sanctuary unless its animals are not moved from their enclosures for non-medical reasons. Parading Mike at home games would prevent LSU from receiving its accreditation.
It's in the article.
Where did I say it wasn't in the article?
That isn't what I've argued against at all.
This is what you quoted:
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think it still sends the wrong message to keep a cat in a glass case just to say you have one, but it's a whole lot better than what they had," said the founder CEO of Big Cat Rescue in Tampa, Florida.
I believe it boils down to whether someone thinks it's OK to have a tiger in a cage. These peoples stated goal is to end that.
Where does it say that this person's viewpoint is the viewpoint of the accreditation agency?
The majority of people in the industry are going to work for public facing facilities like zoos
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 9:56 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:57 am to TigerBait1127
Good Lord! Y'all get a room
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 9:58 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 9:58 am to TigerBait1127
Is F.King gay? If so, the Golden Girls will be gone next and the Chinese Bandits will be considered racist. I'm too old for this $h!t to watch them destroy LSU.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 10:06 am to TigerBait1127
This is the last thing I'm going to say on this.
You want to: get accredited so that we can go through arbitrary channels to get older unhealthy tigers and have to submit to ever changing standards and rules in order to receive a new tiger every 10 years.
I believe: we can get a young healthy tiger cub that will live for 20-26 years that we can put in our facility that exceeds any accreditation standards, and acclimate him to our traditions and if we want to take him out of his cage for any reason we can.
You want to: get accredited so that we can go through arbitrary channels to get older unhealthy tigers and have to submit to ever changing standards and rules in order to receive a new tiger every 10 years.
I believe: we can get a young healthy tiger cub that will live for 20-26 years that we can put in our facility that exceeds any accreditation standards, and acclimate him to our traditions and if we want to take him out of his cage for any reason we can.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 10:09 am
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