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re: No matter the coach, B. Harris needs to get better

Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

he showed some flashes as a junior, but still wasn't there


he damn sure was against Bama....that was his coming out game...
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85018 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:18 pm to
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That's the only legit knock on Miles IMO. They have missed way too much on QB recruits, but yet still win a ton of games. So is that really fireable at this point?

IMO, I don't think that alone is fireable. But the issue of this pattern of the team basically giving up after being out of the National Championship race over the last few years? And not even being competitive in the last 3 games, being unprepared, and undisciplined? I think that is what might be driving it moreso. And probably the fact that Miles quit on the team in 2012.

I've been a Miles supporter. This year is the first time I've really felt like he's lost the team.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:19 pm to
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Jennings beat Ole Miss and went to overtime with Bama. Harris didn't help himself. After this season, Jennings will still have more wins playing in Les games.


Did you even watch the game?

Jennings had nothing to do with beating Ole Miss. He was horrible in that game. The defense and rb won us that game.

Jennings was WAY worse than Harris. If you can't acknowledge that then you can't be help. Oh how quickly people forget.. they only know how to live in the now.. and whatever the now is.. is the absolute worst..

Jennings also beat FLORIDA but he was horrible in that game up until one final td pass.. but Harris actually had his best game against florida in a win.

Jennings was really bad last season.. much worse than Harris.. and I'm almost sure the stats would be back up this belief.. but more than anything.. just watching the games shows who is worse. Harris does more with his legs too.

Jennings was 7-4 as a starter last season (so i am not including the au game)
Harris already has 7 wins and he missed out on a gift inferior opponent win.. should be 8 already..

He also missed out on even better total stats because of missing that game..

So how stupid do you want to be?
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 9:22 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260939 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:19 pm to
With Franks out, LSU is screwed at the QB position for a few more years.
Posted by TigerBaitTx
East TX
Member since Jan 2014
1046 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:20 pm to
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Harris looks worst that Jennings did last year.

Nope.........
Not possible
False
Just no
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:20 pm to
Harris was also not shut out 17-0 versus Arkansas
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203093 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

he showed some flashes as a junior, but still wasn't there
He was acutally pretty good as a j. The Bama game was his coming out party..All I could say to myself where has this offense been all year....
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:22 pm to
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You do understand that those are skills that can be improved through practice repetitions... oh wait, you don't. Dumbass.


Apparently he needs to put in a lot more work then, because he sure as hell hasn't improved in two years.....certainly he can get better....but it doesn't come natural to him like it does to some others.


quote:

2012 Mett <<< 2013 Mett So stop talking out of your arse, dumbass.


speaking of dumbasses....you might try reading my comments earlier in the thread in regards to Mett in 2012 vs Mett in 2013.......but what is even more comical is that your example actually supports the theory that Mett was developed. LOL
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203093 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:27 pm to
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You do understand that those are skills that can be improved through practice repetitions



Ok.But when does that start???? Its obvious that they haven't been practicing it at all this year...
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:28 pm to
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Jennings was WAY worse than Harris. If you can't acknowledge that then you can't be help


Harris was just as bad as Jennings the last three games...if not worse..seriously. Prior to that, Harris was much better than Jennings from last year.

I don't know what Jennings could do this year, but I actually wanted him to come into the last few games and at least have a shot.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:30 pm to
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Its obvious that they haven't been practicing it at all this year...


Agreed...but that's also something he could be working on himself, on the side right? Clearly, he has to know that's a weakness that needs improving.
Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
85018 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:31 pm to
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With Franks out, LSU is screwed at the QB position for a few more years.

I agree. Unless a new HC comes in with a reputation for developing them, and we pick up someone unexpected, or decommitted from somewhere else.
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
10463 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:36 pm to
Jizz I will answer your question...nobody. Not 1 fricking qb was recruited or developed under Miles. Flynn was recruited and signed by Saban. Miles has not done 1 fricking thing to devolp qb's. You know why??? Because he is clueless about the damn position. Absolutely fricking clueless. Cameron has no idea how to run a college based offense. This staff has been horrendous at devolping any type of imagination on the offensive side of the ball. The offense is actually pedestrian and dumbed down bc of our inability to develop any type of weapon at qb. Its quite fricking sad.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:43 pm to
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Do you realize he showed up and executed the game plan




The game plan was to not move the ball or score points?

Or was it to complete less than 40% of his passes vs Bama?

You're an idiot.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 9:45 pm
Posted by jumpup123
Member since Jan 2015
181 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:14 pm to
Creative plays will somehow create touch and accuracy?
Posted by jumpup123
Member since Jan 2015
181 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:20 pm to
Think about it this way. Our QB's somewhat struggled against our defence, Harris was better, but not many teams are having trouble throwing the ball on our D.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:34 pm to
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Unfortunately based on what I've seen from Harris, I don't expect him to get a lot better. He's been the obvious weak link in the offense this season


+1

I've been saying this and i'm not really an LSU fan. Looking in, Harris really isn't that good. All I hear and see is 'talent'..where? He can't throw a 10 yard pass with touch, can't throw a 20 yard pass with accuracy. Yeah, he can throw a bomb and let his WR jump for it. Wow...

The last two season the QB has been the weak link. Les knows this. That's why he chooses to run the ball. He has no other choice. Problem is, LSU can't afford to get 14 points behind and expect to run the ball. As you can see, its not going to happen against quality teams.
Posted by jumpup123
Member since Jan 2015
181 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:37 pm to
For all the dual threat QB talk. Does anyone think that Chad Kelly couldn't run LSU offense efficiently. I think he could. Just because a guy is athletic doesn't men he has to run and can't throw a pass. These guys aren't running options and are QB's.

That stuff Gus does with run QB or to RB and possible pass in flat or downfield, all real time, is a lot more confusing than I'm going to drop back and throw to three guys downfield.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64683 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:44 pm to
Harris was just as bad as Jennings the last three games...if not worse..

seriously.?
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:17 pm to
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quote: Jennings beat Ole Miss and went to overtime with Bama. Harris didn't help himself. After this season, Jennings will still have more wins playing in Les games. Did you even watch the game? Jennings had nothing to do with beating Ole Miss. He was horrible in that game. The defense and rb won us that game. Jennings was WAY worse than Harris. If you can't acknowledge that then you can't be help. Oh how quickly people forget.. they only know how to live in the now.. and whatever the now is.. is the absolute worst.. Jennings also beat FLORIDA but he was horrible in that game up until one final td pass.. but Harris actually had his best game against florida in a win. Jennings was really bad last season.. much worse than Harris.. and I'm almost sure the stats would be back up this belief.. but more than anything.. just watching the games shows who is worse. Harris does more with his legs too. Jennings was 7-4 as a starter last season (so i am not including the au game) Harris already has 7 wins and he missed out on a gift inferior opponent win.. should be 8 already.. He also missed out on even better total stats because of missing that game.. So how stupid do you want to be?


Are you this stupid? Jennings is 9-4 as a starter. Why don't you go read his bio and learn something. You gonna argue that Harris has more wins as a starter than Jennings.
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