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No, LSU isn't in decline.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:35 am
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:35 am
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:37 am to Brbengal
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:40 am to a want
That GIF perfectly sums up the LSU fan base.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:42 am to Brbengal
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28-11 overall
14-10 in the SEC
3-9 as an underdog
35.33 average ranking in offensive S&P+
91.66 average ranking in passing offense
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Wait, I seem to have misplaced my notes here.
Just a second.
It appears all of these stats are actually from 2008-2010 seasons. The three that preceded what wound up being the best team not just in Les Miles' tenure, but in LSU history, national title game be damned.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:42 am to Tigerpaul1969
13-1, 10-3, 10-3, 8-5, 8-3 or 4
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 9:43 am
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:42 am to Tigerpaul1969
Yeah, I like it b/c it cuts both ways
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:43 am to Brbengal
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The party line of people has been to cite this article from Jeff Duncan and Ron Higgins. Specifically, they cite this piece of data:
Since and including the 2011 BCS championship game, Miles is 0-for-10 in games as an underdog. Yet, in that span, his teams have managed to lose six games in which they were favored. This year it was Arkansas.
Wow, that's a pretty searing indictment of Miles' coaching. Except that it's both factually incorrect and intellectually dishonest. This took three minutes of googling to figure out.
Firstly, since 2011, LSU is 3-9 as an underdog. Duncan's quoted numbers are plainly incorrect and you can read it right here. So, he's lying to stoke the flames of some bullshite opinion piece. Normally, I can gloss over this type of shoddy work, except when a large segment of our fanbase is latching on to this false data to support their ungrounded opinions, it becomes a problem.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:43 am to jrodLSUke
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Speaking of, you know, the most common similarity between the 2008-2010 LSU teams and the 2013-2015 ones? Being forced into playing young QBs too early. In both 2014 and again in 2015, LSU threw two true sophomores to the wolves with National Title hopes. Predictably, both were chewed alive. No, LSU isn't in decline. They are just maturing before a national audience.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:44 am to Brbengal
This will be lost on most - because facts.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:45 am to jrodLSUke
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LSU threw two true sophomores to the wolves with National Title hopes. Predictably, both were chewed alive. No, LSU isn't in decline. They are just maturing before a national audience.
Why do we always have true freshmen and sophomores starting at QB? Whose fault is that?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:45 am to Brbengal
frankly, this is all that matters
and it's not good enough for a coach being paid his salary
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28-11 overall
14-10 in the SEC
and it's not good enough for a coach being paid his salary
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:46 am to Brbengal
As I said before, Les' record in the last 5 years is the same as it was in his first 5 years - and better than Saban's 5 years here. LSU fans like to ignore facts.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:48 am to 911Moto
the difference is that in 2010 everyone including other fanbases looked at LSU and said next year is our year, not very many people are saying this about next season
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 9:52 am
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:53 am to a want
quote:The good news is: that trend ended with 2015.
Why do we always have true freshmen and sophomores starting at QB? Whose fault is that?
But that fact, like so many others, will merely return you to your previous, in-depth analysis:
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:57 am to The Ostrich
quote:What?!?!
the difference is that in 2010 everyone including other fanbases looked at LSU and said next year is our year, not very many people are saying this about next season
In 2016, there won't be any freshmen starters on the offensive or defensive lines.
In 2016, there won't be any freshmen starters in the secondary.
In 2016, there won't be a first year starter at QB.
In 2016, the QB, RB, FB, and most of the receivers will be in their 3rd year.
quote:Perfect. Get your head out of the ground . . . or your arse.
The Ostrich
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:57 am to Brbengal
Point differential in losses by year:
2012= 8, 4, 1
2013= 3, 3, 21
2014= 5, 34, 7, 17, 3
2015= 14, 17, 21
DECLINE!
2012= 8, 4, 1
2013= 3, 3, 21
2014= 5, 34, 7, 17, 3
2015= 14, 17, 21
DECLINE!
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:00 am to Salviati
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In 2016, there won't be any freshmen starters on the offensive or defensive lines.
You don't know that.
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In 2016, there won't be any freshmen starters in the secondary.
Or that.
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In 2016, there won't be any freshmen starters at linebacker
Convenient that you left that out, huh?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:05 am to Brbengal
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Wow, that's a pretty searing indictment of Miles' coaching. Except that it's both factually incorrect and intellectually dishonest. This took three minutes of googling to figure out.
It's one thing when a person posting on the internet posts an incorrect fact or stat. It's possible they got it wrong.
But for a professional sports writer to put a false fact or wrong stat in an article should be grounds for termination, period.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:06 am to a want
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Why do we always have true freshmen and sophomores starting at QB? Whose fault is that?
Recruiting isn't an exact science. You miss on players. The best in the business (NFL), miss all the time.
BTW, the QB LSU faced Saturday night, was the #1 overall QB recruit in the country. He's also a sophomore.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:06 am to Salviati
so you have complete confidence we will be a contender next year? Teams have figured out of to stop our 1 dimensional offense and if something doesn't change were going to continue to lose to mediocre teams like Ole Miss and Arkansas no matter how much talent we have
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