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Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:23 pm to LandOwners
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Flynn was good at LSU though.
FWIW, here is the career comparison between Flynn and JJ.
Flynn Passing:
CMP - 245
ATT - 437
PCT - 56.1
YDS - 3,096
Y/A - 7.1
AY/A - 7.2
TD - 31
INT - 13
RATE - 133.0
JJ Passing:
CMP - 397
ATT - 678
PCT - 58.6
YDS - 4,733
Y/A - 7.0
AY/A - 6.7
TD - 34
INT - 20
RATE - 127.8
Flynn Rushing:
ATT - 128
YDS - 340
AVG - 2.7
TD - 5
JJ Rushing:
ATT - 359
YDS - 1018
AVG - 2.8
TD - 12
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:24 pm to Jester
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Two false starts both resulting in third and long. A hold on a first down play resulting in third and long. And three sacks by his assignments.
That's a pretty awful night.
2 turnovers, 15 rush, 53 pass yards from a QB who played a full 60 minutes. He sure can give Hurst a run for his money.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:26 pm to fastedLSU
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And three sacks by his assignments.
There is usually more than one party to a sack.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:27 pm to fastedLSU
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"I was seeing things clearly. Making decisions with the ball wasn't an issue. Other than that, I made great decisions with the ball. Offensively, we just fell short."
After the game.
Would it have been better for him to say "my o-line couldn't block worth a shite, we had penalties on first downs, and we couldn't run"
We all know how the game went who cares what a 21 yr old says after a game
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:28 pm to Antonio Moss
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Two false starts both resulting in third and long. A hold on a first down play resulting in third and long. And three sacks by his assignments.
That's a pretty awful night.
fumbling the snap on 3rd and short on our 1st drive, looking like a ruh-tard running the option, looking lost most of the night, and ... wait for it...
THE INTERCEPTION (and subsequent pouty face to Ware)
awfuller.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:30 pm to RummelTiger
13 starts vs 31 starts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:30 pm to Topwater Trout
regarding flynn, don't forget RP won the SEC championship game for us, not Flynn. also, did't Flynn throw THREE INTS. against bama in the first half. he also had a horrible 1st half against arky. in summary, he had some gains as bad as jj and jl.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:33 pm to RummelTiger
quote:Interesting post. I imagine the rushing numbers are also more heavily in favor of JJ when you eliminate sack yardage, which counts against QB rushing in college.
RummelTiger
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:34 pm to fastedLSU
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Is it possible, and I need everyone to use their thinking caps here, but is it possible that Alabama's defense was just really, really good
not only very possible but probable.
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and make JJ look like a deer in the head lights every single play.
most of us will agree with this.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:34 pm to Larry Hollins
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he also had a horrible 1st half against arky. in summary, he had some gains as bad as jj and jl.
Flynn was a much better leader, played better in the clutch and could win games for you. He took risks, no doubt, but made some bad plays.
JJ's took few risks throwing the ball, but rarely had "big plays when needed." Lee took inappropriate risks.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:36 pm to Antonio Moss
I read through some of the the thread and I have seen over and over on the board about JJ and his post game comments. I understand how sometimes they are seen when read in print but I honestly dont believe the kid is as cocky and self unaware as yall think he is. Here is my proof
JJ post game Auburn last year
He says "the offense did well" nothing about himself and seems mainly to be trying to present a unified front to the press. Nothing in his voice sounds cocky etc. He got asked about splitting time with Lee and if he thought that affected him and he said no. He just tries to stay warm while Lee is helping the team out and when its his turn he does his best.
Post game Ole Miss his freshman year I believe
He gets asked straight up about his performance. He says "I think I played pretty good" HOWEVER his voice is very wavering as if he doesnt think he played perfect that he wishes he played better, but someone somewhere had told him: "dont let the media see you down handle that kind of stuff with your teammates and coaches"
Watch and see for yallselves but thats my opinion and I think most of the hate towards the kid is due to unfair portrayal and out of context quotes by Guilbeu and the like.
JJ post game Auburn last year
He says "the offense did well" nothing about himself and seems mainly to be trying to present a unified front to the press. Nothing in his voice sounds cocky etc. He got asked about splitting time with Lee and if he thought that affected him and he said no. He just tries to stay warm while Lee is helping the team out and when its his turn he does his best.
Post game Ole Miss his freshman year I believe
He gets asked straight up about his performance. He says "I think I played pretty good" HOWEVER his voice is very wavering as if he doesnt think he played perfect that he wishes he played better, but someone somewhere had told him: "dont let the media see you down handle that kind of stuff with your teammates and coaches"
Watch and see for yallselves but thats my opinion and I think most of the hate towards the kid is due to unfair portrayal and out of context quotes by Guilbeu and the like.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:38 pm to Antonio Moss
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Jordan Jefferson, LSU: Jefferson has always had the physical attributes scouts look for at the quarterback position, as proved in Indy by his 6-4 1/8, 223-pound frame, 10 1/4-inch hands, 4.65 40-yard dash, 36 1/2-inch vertical and receiver-like 4.06 20-yard shuttle. He even put up 225 pounds 14 times on the bench press, a test that most quarterbacks choose not to perform. The way the ball came out of his hand while he was throwing to receivers on Sunday also reminded scouts of arm strength that can stretch defenses in a vertical attack. His game tape isn't exemplary, but the skill set he showed in Indianapolis will probably be enough to see him drafted in April -- possibly higher than some expect, due to a lack of promising mid-to-late-round quarterback prospects.
Draft projection: Fifth round.
nobody has watched more "tape" on JJ than die hard LSU fans. We know what he is capable of as a starting quarterback. Just like we knew that Jamarcus was not a #1 overall prospect (#1 overall talent I would agree)
Who here can actually make a compelling argument for JJ being a good NFL qb? Someone go ahead and shock me, please.........
FYI - I dont hate the guy and wish him the best but realistically, he is not NFL caliber when it comes to decision making.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:38 pm to Adam Banks
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He gets asked straight up about his performance. He says "I think I played pretty good" HOWEVER his voice is very wavering as if he doesnt think he played perfect that he wishes he played better, but someone somewhere had told him: "dont let the media see you down handle that kind of stuff with your teammates and coaches"
That's a lot of assumption.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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quote:
He gets asked straight up about his performance. He says "I think I played pretty good" HOWEVER his voice is very wavering as if he doesnt think he played perfect that he wishes he played better, but someone somewhere had told him: "dont let the media see you down handle that kind of stuff with your teammates and coaches"
That's a lot of assumption.
Did you watch it?
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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JJ's took few risks throwing the ball
Understatement.
He literally would not throw the ball until the receiver was open.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:42 pm to Adam Banks
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That's a lot of assumption.
Did you watch it?
Of course. And
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That's a lot of assumption.
JJ was coddled by LM IMO, and believed what he was told. It's not really his fault he didn't always have a realistic outlook on performance.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Of course. And
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That's a lot of assumption.
Maybe a little bit but especially in the Ole miss interview he sounded like a sheepish kid not the Allen Iverson practice interview that the rant tries to act like.
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:47 pm to Antonio Moss
Man, I am happy for JJ.
I KNEW he wouldn't perform the worst of any player at the combine.
Jesus, it's like no one--no rant poster, Glenn Guilbeau, or even Finebaum--even knows how the combine works.
At what point do we need to validate our hate so much that we ignore the facts?
I KNEW he wouldn't perform the worst of any player at the combine.
Jesus, it's like no one--no rant poster, Glenn Guilbeau, or even Finebaum--even knows how the combine works.
At what point do we need to validate our hate so much that we ignore the facts?
Posted on 3/1/12 at 4:48 pm to Adam Banks
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I understand how sometimes they are seen when read in print but I honestly dont believe the kid is as cocky and self unaware as yall think he is.
I don't think he's as cocky as some of his quotes make him come off, but there does seem to be a lack of self-awareness. it's not terrible, but it's there.
I've kinda made the point before about how he responds to tough games. it's almost like a parent telling him things to prop him up after a bad performance, and he goes off and repeats it to the media. mix in a few misworded cliches, and his overuse of the word 'great', and you get 10 page threads on here.
oh yeah, find the video of him after UNC, he actually played well IMO but was kinda hard on himself.
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