- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: New OTL article on Lyles/LSU
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:13 pm to BillyBobfan24_7
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:13 pm to BillyBobfan24_7
quote:
To me this just makes Lyles company look like a shitty company.
or that his company is a front for a bigger, more lucrative business??? I sure hope not.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:14 pm to Dick Burleson
quote:
Doesn't make us look good either
how? just looks like we paid for a shitty product. nothing illegal about that
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:15 pm to Choctaw
Value is in the eye of the BEER holder.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:16 pm to laxtonto
From LSU's perspective $6K is absolutely nothing. It costs LSU/TAF 2-3 times that for a single working day for Les Miles
If they want to do this story - they need to look at all of the recruiting videos being offered by different services.
Some of them are quite good - some of them are poor... but some access to information is better than none and without the ability of coaches to go and watch more high school football games? Every school without a sweetheart deal with the local high school is scrambling to identify prospects
Seriously OTL - if there is more money than that involved then OK run your story (if you show other schools and the value they receive for their packages). But would even one of your junior reporters be willing to truck his arse all over the place like Lyles did? For maybe 37K a year (25k from oregon + 12 from cal and lsu)? Really? Would you really pay for that much travel? He is pulling in a lower middle class or worse salary - the replacement cost if you let a coach do that is probably 75K-300K at many programs
And shite - what has Cal shown about what they got? Doesn't it seem like they are getting a complete pass?
If they want to do this story - they need to look at all of the recruiting videos being offered by different services.
Some of them are quite good - some of them are poor... but some access to information is better than none and without the ability of coaches to go and watch more high school football games? Every school without a sweetheart deal with the local high school is scrambling to identify prospects
Seriously OTL - if there is more money than that involved then OK run your story (if you show other schools and the value they receive for their packages). But would even one of your junior reporters be willing to truck his arse all over the place like Lyles did? For maybe 37K a year (25k from oregon + 12 from cal and lsu)? Really? Would you really pay for that much travel? He is pulling in a lower middle class or worse salary - the replacement cost if you let a coach do that is probably 75K-300K at many programs
And shite - what has Cal shown about what they got? Doesn't it seem like they are getting a complete pass?
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:16 pm to laxtonto
quote:nooooo that is inconsequential
It screams a parallel to UO. Just give us stuff so we can make the compliance guys happy.. It most likely isn't true, but Lyles incompetence makes it look just as bad..
/lecter
we asked him for specific player video. if he didn't edit out the players we didnt ask for the BFD.
swing your sword. ESPN sucks arse.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:18 pm to BayouBlitz
By my calculations, it is a little over 10% of the total volume provided. If over half was this way, I would say LSU has a problem. But given the already public disclosure of Schad's "revelation" by LSU in the press release last, this more a reflection on LYLES and OREGON and sensationalism on the part of the Media right now...
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:18 pm to FanInLA
So if we didn't pay him any money until December 2010, then he wasn't "on the payroll" of LSU in October 2009 when he accompnied Seastrunk et. al. to the LSU/Florida game. So no secondary violation there.
Obviously we recieved videos from him prior to paying him, so no problem there.
So even if the videos aren't very useful, what are we supposed to do? Stiff him? I'm guessing that would be some sort of NCAA violation as well. Soliciting recruiting videos then refusing to pay for them or at least bad business.
Sounds like a whole bunch of nothing to me.
Obviously we recieved videos from him prior to paying him, so no problem there.
So even if the videos aren't very useful, what are we supposed to do? Stiff him? I'm guessing that would be some sort of NCAA violation as well. Soliciting recruiting videos then refusing to pay for them or at least bad business.
Sounds like a whole bunch of nothing to me.
This post was edited on 7/20/11 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:20 pm to Spawn
i think he was paid in the past by LSU
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:21 pm to drexyl
quote:
I like how OTL pretends theyre 60 minutes or some shite.
well both are big believers in making a story more sensational instead of more balanced
a hatchet job is better TV - a broader review of the college landscape would have been so unpleasant because it would invoke shades of gray and complexity
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:22 pm to Spawn
Yeah this article is all spin> We have always said some of the material is old players currently in college. But they completely want to ignore all the video that is useful because that doesn't make us out to be doing something wrong.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:24 pm to laxtonto
I bought a shirt last week that had a hole in it...
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:26 pm to laxtonto
Was that the 1st or just the last time we "paid" Lyles
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:26 pm to The ATL
quote:
i think he was paid in the past by LSU
Nothing in this story says that.
quote:
Herb Vincent, LSU's associate vice chancellor for communications and senior associate athletic director, said in an email to ESPN last Thursday that "LSU began receiving materials in early October 2010 according to our coaches. Our computer records show that much of the video from the DVDs were loaded into LSU's recruiting evaluation system by mid-November 2010."
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:30 pm to laxtonto
They are digging for dirt. The whole ESPN establishment is dedicated to showing that the SEC is corrupt and that is how they are outdoing the Big Ten/Pac-12. It doesn't make a lot of sense because of their TV deals, but when you consider that most of the employees of ESPN are Big Ten people, then you can see the ax they have to grind.
32 videos for $6,000 is around $200 per video. No big deal. That's actually a pretty good price. If what he gave was crap, so be it. He wasn't good at what he did. Are they going to assume motive? Are they saying that there was a hidden benefit? How is any of that provable?
Terrible reporting from ESPN, once again.
32 videos for $6,000 is around $200 per video. No big deal. That's actually a pretty good price. If what he gave was crap, so be it. He wasn't good at what he did. Are they going to assume motive? Are they saying that there was a hidden benefit? How is any of that provable?
Terrible reporting from ESPN, once again.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:30 pm to Billder
quote:
or that his company is a front for a bigger, more lucrative business???
Couldn't have been too lucrative. His business went under and now he works in a grocery store. Maybe directly related to the crappy quality goods he was producing.
TBH, his current employment is what scares me the most. He may see a way to make a quick dime, and sell false stories to the sports media, who would pay well and fast.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:31 pm to Spawn
This has all been reported. I read another article that cited the outdated video but also said the information that came with the videos was good and LSU's response was that was what they paid for anyway. It seems like OTL is just re-reporting things trying to seem like they broke the story. This has all been known for weeks.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:32 pm to LSUzealot
As badly as we need a QB, I think we would've paid more than 6k for Mett.
I think it's all bullshite unless we find out Lyles received more money from LSU. IF he received more money, I'd say there's a good chance LSU was buying players and the videos were a cover. Unless someone finds the paper trail, this is a non issue. I think the way we handled the Hicks situation put us in good favor with the NCAA and that LSU's trouble is behind it unless something substantial (paper trail) can be proven.
I think it's all bullshite unless we find out Lyles received more money from LSU. IF he received more money, I'd say there's a good chance LSU was buying players and the videos were a cover. Unless someone finds the paper trail, this is a non issue. I think the way we handled the Hicks situation put us in good favor with the NCAA and that LSU's trouble is behind it unless something substantial (paper trail) can be proven.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:32 pm to ForeLSU
quote:you know what I like? mashed potatoes.
Message
Posted by ForeLSU
I bought a shirt last week that had a hole in it...
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:33 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
quote:
Was that the 1st or just the last time we "paid" Lyles
We only paid Lyles himself once.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:34 pm to drexyl
quote:
you know what I like? mashed potatoes.
He's just saying that people pay market value for shoddy products all the time.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News