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re: Miles DID NOT call for the spike. Video evidence
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:33 am to Sports2
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:33 am to Sports2
Sorry, but you did a piss poor job. Miles clearly does not react until he sees the ball in the Ole Miss players hand and hes signaling that TT was down with the ball. There is no other way to interpret why he stays calm throughout the play, until Ole Miss comes up with the ball.
You made a bad judgement call, and it will probably bite you in the arse
jus sayin
You made a bad judgement call, and it will probably bite you in the arse
jus sayin
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:38 am to Sports2
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you can interpret my video however you like.
Several posters saw it like you did, but when Rob pointed out that Miles reaction immediately followed Ole Miss claiming they had the ball, they now see it differently. There is certainly enough reasonable doubt that you I think you had no right calling Miles out with your flimsy evidence.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:42 am to RobbBobb
You're not sorry, so don't try to back track now. Like I said you interpret as him saying he's down with possession, the defender had as much possession as TT, Miles starts the spike motion only after the ref rules the ball is caught by LSU and it's a first down for the Tigers.
I don't care if Les called it or not, I'm trying to trying to say he lied about any of it. I don't have a dog in the fight, they lost the game.
But I think the coaches had no idea what was going on, they were playing for the Hail Mary touchdown, and when it came up short they panicked.
Either way, spike it, call a play or kick a field goal. LSU did none of those things, therefore the coaches failed the kids.
Feel free to dissect the tape some more, maybe there's something else in there I missed, like the cure for world hunger.
I don't care if Les called it or not, I'm trying to trying to say he lied about any of it. I don't have a dog in the fight, they lost the game.
But I think the coaches had no idea what was going on, they were playing for the Hail Mary touchdown, and when it came up short they panicked.
Either way, spike it, call a play or kick a field goal. LSU did none of those things, therefore the coaches failed the kids.
Feel free to dissect the tape some more, maybe there's something else in there I missed, like the cure for world hunger.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:46 am to Sports2
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I don't care if Les called it or not, I'm trying to trying to say he lied about any of it. I don't have a dog in the fight, they lost the game.
If you are not sure, you need to edit your earlier post saying he did call for the spike.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:46 am to Sports2
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But I think the coaches had no idea what was going on, they were playing for the Hail Mary touchdown, and when it came up short they panicked.
Totally agree, but I do not think the video should have been used as evidence of Miles calling for a spike. If you also look at the CBS angle, LSU possession was not signaled until well after Miles started pointing down.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:51 am to theunknownknight
I look at that video, seeing it live and on tape multiple times, knowing the situation and the timing and I don't see anything other than a spike motion.
If you do, then great.
I'm not trying to find multiple angles to support my theory. I just used common sense and vision, if it looks like a spike, it's a spike, unless of course he was getting an early start on some paper-rock-scissors game.
If you do, then great.
I'm not trying to find multiple angles to support my theory. I just used common sense and vision, if it looks like a spike, it's a spike, unless of course he was getting an early start on some paper-rock-scissors game.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:53 am to Sports2
naw all coaches call "my player was down" from the sidelines without going to talk to a ref
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:55 am to Sports2
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This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 4:37 am
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:56 am to Sports2
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I look at that video, seeing it live and on tape multiple times, knowing the situation and the timing and I don't see anything other than a spike motion.
If you do, then great.
I'm not trying to call you out. I'm just saying that earlier you started this saying it was a spike and just now you said it really doesn't matter. Well, one accusation is an attack on Les' intelligence, the other is an attack on his character.
I personally think he may have called for the spike initially as a knee jerk reaction but I'm not the a paid reporter who started this story.
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 1:58 am
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:56 am to Sports2
quote:what do you gather from the 2 kicking motions before? that he wanted a field goal, noticed they couldn't get it off and then wanted a spike?
I'm not trying to find multiple angles to support my theory. I just used common sense and vision, if it looks like a spike, it's a spike, unless of course he was getting an early start on some paper-rock-scissors game.
reminds me of the UT game in '05 (i think) when Landry intercepted a pass and when he's running it back Miles is calling for a TO not realizing the clock stops on a turnover. The guy has no clock management skills whatsoever.
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 1:57 am
Posted on 11/22/09 at 1:59 am to RobbBobb
Others have taken this and run with it that we called Les a liar, we never said he lied.
There are about four different people in my video doing the spike motion on the sideline at any one point, JJ said their signal caller, not Les said to spike it. I said in the absence of a real play call if you look to the sideline and see your head coach making that motion, what are you going to do?
LSU lost that game when they threw the ball or wanted to (sack) three times after getting a first down inside FG range.
Robb, I was driving so I didn't get to respond, but where were you getting the :02 on the clock that you were talking about? How did the clock go to :01? I saw you mention something about thinking Miles was doing the spike at :02, but not at :01? I didn't get to see the tv broadcast, so was there something there where time ran off?
Also, the scoreboard showed LSU with a timeout, one remaining, so that was pretty confusing as well. At the end of the game, Les was talking to Porter and Jordan saying we had a timeout, Joe Rob had to tell him they didn't. So it was pretty clear that they had no idea where they were at that time of the game.
There are about four different people in my video doing the spike motion on the sideline at any one point, JJ said their signal caller, not Les said to spike it. I said in the absence of a real play call if you look to the sideline and see your head coach making that motion, what are you going to do?
LSU lost that game when they threw the ball or wanted to (sack) three times after getting a first down inside FG range.
Robb, I was driving so I didn't get to respond, but where were you getting the :02 on the clock that you were talking about? How did the clock go to :01? I saw you mention something about thinking Miles was doing the spike at :02, but not at :01? I didn't get to see the tv broadcast, so was there something there where time ran off?
Also, the scoreboard showed LSU with a timeout, one remaining, so that was pretty confusing as well. At the end of the game, Les was talking to Porter and Jordan saying we had a timeout, Joe Rob had to tell him they didn't. So it was pretty clear that they had no idea where they were at that time of the game.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:01 am to Sports2
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Also, the scoreboard showed LSU with a timeout, one remaining, so that was pretty confusing as well. At the end of the game, Les was talking to Porter and Jordan saying we had a timeout, Joe Rob had to tell him they didn't. So it was pretty clear that they had no idea where they were at that time of the game.
THIS is news
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:01 am to Sports2
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At the end of the game, Les was talking to Porter and Jordan saying we had a timeout, Joe Rob had to tell him they didn't.
DAMN YOU JOSH HENSON FOR LEAVING. THIS WAS YOUR ONE MAIN JOB ON THE SIDELINES
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:01 am to Sports2
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I look at that video, seeing it live and on tape multiple times, knowing the situation and the timing and I don't see anything other than a spike motion.
If you do, then great.
I'm not trying to find multiple angles to support my theory. I just used common sense and vision, if it looks like a spike, it's a spike, unless of course he was getting an early start on some paper-rock-scissors game.
Why are you getting defensive about your theory as opposed to his?
Either way, doesn't excuse Mile shitacular coaching job.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:01 am to Sports2
Heres the thing. You called Miles a liar for all of BR to see. There is plenty of doubt when you see the outstretched Ole Miss hand with the ball, and only then see any reaction from Miles.
Doesnt matter what I see, it matters what you use as your evidence. You have a public responsibility to provide the facts. You used your judgement to make this call on BR TV. That judgement has now been called into question.
You should at least show that the signal is questionable, and let the viewers decide.
Doesnt matter what I see, it matters what you use as your evidence. You have a public responsibility to provide the facts. You used your judgement to make this call on BR TV. That judgement has now been called into question.
You should at least show that the signal is questionable, and let the viewers decide.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:01 am to Sports2
quote:Terrance was down with :03 left on the clock and 2 seconds ran off after he was down.
Robb, I was driving so I didn't get to respond, but where were you getting the :02 on the clock that you were talking about? How did the clock go to :01? I saw you mention something about thinking Miles was doing the spike at :02, but not at :01? I didn't get to see the tv broadcast, so was there something there where time ran off?
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:02 am to Acreboy
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Terrance was down with :03 left on the clock and 2 seconds ran off after he was down.
On TV. The actual game clock was probably ahead. There is usually a small lag.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:02 am to Sports2
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Also, the scoreboard showed LSU with a timeout, one remaining, so that was pretty confusing as well. At the end of the game, Les was talking to Porter and Jordan saying we had a timeout, Joe Rob had to tell him they didn't. So it was pretty clear that they had no idea where they were at that time of the game.
This set of sentences is so shitty on so many levels.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:04 am to theunknownknight
quote:just pointing out what the other guy saw.
On TV. The actual game clock was probably ahead. There is usually a small lag.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:04 am to theunknownknight
my point to you was that I'm not rooting for or against Les, I'm not trying to paint a picture other than what I saw. That's where the "I don't care" part of the equation. As we in the media say, wins and losses all pay the same.
Les said he didn't call it, I have video that shows he's certainly making that motion running towards his offense.
Neither is an attack on character or intelligence, I think to say that is an extreme look at the situation.
I mean if I wanted to attack intelligence I would point to the passing plays or the back to back fades for a two point conversion. In my opinion that was where the football intelligence failed them. A yard and a half, toss it to Ridley or Sheppard on the option. But that's why I'm not a coach.
Les said he didn't call it, I have video that shows he's certainly making that motion running towards his offense.
Neither is an attack on character or intelligence, I think to say that is an extreme look at the situation.
I mean if I wanted to attack intelligence I would point to the passing plays or the back to back fades for a two point conversion. In my opinion that was where the football intelligence failed them. A yard and a half, toss it to Ridley or Sheppard on the option. But that's why I'm not a coach.
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