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re: Miles DID NOT call for the spike. Video evidence
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:05 am to Sports2
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:05 am to Sports2
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I'm not trying to paint a picture other than what I saw.
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Les said he didn't call it, I have video that shows he's certainly making that motion running towards his offense.
These two things don't seem to equate...
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 2:06 am
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:07 am to OBUDan
he has video proof of the picture he's painting 
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:09 am to Sports2
Les BLEW this game plain and simple.
The cut I saw on youtube, I presume was the news broadcast correct?
If so, that was clearly cut to imply Les was lying. That is an attack on character plain and simple. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. All Robb is trying to say is you may have jumped the gun a little.
I personally think he may have called for the spike. It was just pretty ballsy of you to imply that accusation so soon without all the facts.
The cut I saw on youtube, I presume was the news broadcast correct?
If so, that was clearly cut to imply Les was lying. That is an attack on character plain and simple. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. All Robb is trying to say is you may have jumped the gun a little.
I personally think he may have called for the spike. It was just pretty ballsy of you to imply that accusation so soon without all the facts.
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 2:10 am
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:09 am to Sports2
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Robb, I was driving so I didn't get to respond, but where were you getting the :02 on the clock that you were talking about? How did the clock go to :01?
At 2:40 of this vid, TT is clearly down with :02 on the clock. Then it ticks once more as the ref signals.
LINK
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:10 am to Acreboy
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he has video proof of the picture he's painting
He has proof of a "picture he's painting" yet he was issuing "no opinion on the matter"?
Which is it? You either are or aren't issuing an opinion on the matter.
If you are, and it's wrong, that's fine. It happens.
But why say you aren't issuing an opinion then say you have a video backing your opinion?
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:10 am to RobbBobb
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At 2:40 of this vid, TT is clearly down with :02 on the clock. Then it ticks once more as the ref signals.
which is standard for any game, anywhere
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:10 am to Acreboy
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:11 am to RobbBobb
You took about four hours to develop your theory, and I would argue "plenty of doubt", as best I could see it was you and Tangerine calling me an idiot and formulating a different opinion.
And again, we never called Les a liar.
I don't see where we did anything other than what you are saying we didn't do, show the play, let Les talk about it, and then show it again with an emphasis on what happened. I didn't make Les move his arms around, we're not that talented in local news.
Anyway, it's been a good debate, feel free to come to the Monday presser, I'm sure it will be talked about some more. And I'd love to meet you and talk about it some more, I'll show you the tape.
And again, we never called Les a liar.
I don't see where we did anything other than what you are saying we didn't do, show the play, let Les talk about it, and then show it again with an emphasis on what happened. I didn't make Les move his arms around, we're not that talented in local news.
Anyway, it's been a good debate, feel free to come to the Monday presser, I'm sure it will be talked about some more. And I'd love to meet you and talk about it some more, I'll show you the tape.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:12 am to RobbBobb
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you better go back and look at the video
How do you explain the fact that JJ was on the field with the offense.........looking to the sideline..........and Miles turns around giving the "kick" signal to his staff? This happens right before start of play.
I still think Miles gave the spike signal. But even if you think he didnt, why the hell was he giving the "kick" signal right before the start of play...........when there is no way he could have gotten the unit on at that time?
It is obvious he was lost and confused.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:12 am to theunknownknight
quote:if i see a murder and it's filmed and i accuse the guy of murder is that "jumping the gun"?
It was just pretty ballsy of you to imply that accusation so soon without all the facts.
Les said spike the ball, then he said he didn't, Sports has video evidence of him doing so. If anyone was in a position to make such accusations it was Sports.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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which is standard for any game, anywhere
That same thing happened AU/LSU in 08.
I fail to see how Les is signaling for a caught ball and down. What he did is totally distinct from a "catch" signal.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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which is standard for any game, anywhere
Which is why I also thought Miles was signaling spike seeing the :02 when TT went down. But after watching it 22 times, I absolutely can see where Miles only signals as a reaction to the Ole Miss player coming up with the ball. I give Miles the benefit of the doubt. WBRZ didnt.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:14 am to Sports2
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Anyway, it's been a good debate, feel free to come to the Monday presser, I'm sure it will be talked about some more. And I'd love to meet you and talk about it some more, I'll show you the tape.
I might go. When and where is it going to be?
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:14 am to RobbBobb
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I absolutely can see where Miles only signals as a reaction to the Ole Miss player coming up with the ball.
who was he signaling to?
the only person this would matter to is the ref, which would be a reviewable play
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I give Miles the benefit of the doubt.
with all of his failures as an in-game coach, why would you ever do this?
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:15 am to Sports2
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And I'd love to meet you and talk about it some more
damn is this offer not extended to me?
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:15 am to RobbBobb
quote:Even if you throw that out the window Miles has to override Crowton and run the ball twice instead of two passes.
I give Miles the benefit of the doubt. WBRZ didnt.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:16 am to Sports2
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You took about four hours to develop your theory
This is so sad and pathetic.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:16 am to Sports2
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And again, we never called Les a liar.
But that was how we all took it
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:17 am to OBUDan
I guess I just don't understand how if you show some pretty solid video evidence of something, like say a coach making a spiking motion, and someone else wants to make it into him flicking a booger off his finger, there's no way I can defend it. Maybe there's a booger there, I'm not on his finger.
So it's not really my opinion that Les made the spike motion, it's my comprehension? I don't know the word I'm looking for here. I can't make people think one way, I just put it out there, it just so happens that is the way I see it. I think most reasonable people would see it the same way, and not as booger flick.
And are you really going to cut up my sentax at 2:15, come on man.
So it's not really my opinion that Les made the spike motion, it's my comprehension? I don't know the word I'm looking for here. I can't make people think one way, I just put it out there, it just so happens that is the way I see it. I think most reasonable people would see it the same way, and not as booger flick.
And are you really going to cut up my sentax at 2:15, come on man.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:18 am to Sports2
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I don't know the word I'm looking for here
interpretation
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