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re: Maybe Harris takes the route that Beckwith had to take
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:07 am to LSU Jax
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:07 am to LSU Jax
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Which would be an absolute nightmare scenario. If it does happen, it's on Miles. He has a recent track record of effing up that position... Only the most important position in the game. With the amount of talent on the offense, if this year goes like last year his seat really needs to get hot.
Two downvotes for what I said here???
Does someone disagree that he has effed up the QB position at times in the past?
Or that if the offense is no better this year and leads to the same W-L results his seat should get really hot?
ETA: For the record, I do think the offense will be better this year and the record as well. But I'm basing that optimism on Harris seizing the job and playing well. What scares the living shite out of me is the possibility of Miles going back to Jennings as starter if Harris struggles in just one game. I'm afraid that is a very real scenario that could potentially play out.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 10:11 am
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:10 am to AmazinGrace
Miles also wanted Harris to be the starter. So much that he gave him the job. Then he failed miserably against Auburn. When he is ready, he'll be there.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:22 am to LSU Jax
I see ya working whoever ya are.
SHOW YOURSELF!!!
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:29 am to LSU Jax
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Does someone disagree that he has effed up the QB position at times in the past?
Since Miles terminated Gary Crowton, we had two quarterbacks that led the conference in efficiency, a quarterback who passed for 2500 yards in back to back seasons, and a true sophomore throwing to a group of true freshmen wide receivers.
We have also recruited ELITE talents at the position for the 2014, 2016, 2017, and 2018 classes.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:34 am to chilge1
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Since Miles terminated Gary Crowton, we had two quarterbacks that led the conference in efficiency
Yeah but he YANKED one of them to insert a selfish, jackass thug who couldn't throw worth a shite!! After the efficiency leader struggled in just one game. And he never played a significant down again, just like Harris last year after the Auburn game.
2011 is one of the very instances I was referring to.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:34 am to AmazinGrace
You mean the "not completely ready to take over the most cerebral position in his side of the ball as as a true freshman" route?
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:34 am to chilge1
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we had two quarterbacks that led the conference in efficiency
And both QBs that led the SEC in passing efficiency were not dual threat QBs that Miles seems to be insistent on recruiting.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:38 am to LSU Jax
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Yeah but he YANKED one of them to insert a selfish, jackass thug who couldn't throw worth a shite!!
If that's your opening argument, trying to discuss 2011 would be a colossal waste of time.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:47 am to chilge1
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If that's your opening argument, trying to discuss 2011 would be a colossal waste of time.
Do you disagree that the offense sucked BALLS in the first half of the Arky and UGA games, only to be rescued by HUGE momentum changing runbacks by the Honey Badger, and only dominated on the ground in the second half of both???
And that it then sucked BALLS the WHOLE game in the rematch with Bama?
And don't get me wrong. I don't think Jarrett Lee was the second coming of Peyton Manning. But what Miles did to that kid after years of working his arse off and all the crap he dealt with, and then having a SOLID senior season was just flat out WRONG!! And the fact that Jefferson absolutely SUCKED at the position just made it all the more galling. Lee was tossed aside like garbage in favor of a selfish thug. Inserted at the end of the Championship game to kneel the ball?? What an insult!!! That kid was absolutely shite on by Miles.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:51 am to LSU Jax
And for the life of me I can't understand why Harris never played ONE MORE SIGNIFICANT DOWN after the Auburn game last year. We were playing for the future by the end of September. How invaluable would more experience have been for Harris leading into this season??
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:55 am to LSU Jax
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:58 am to LSU Jax
Wasting your time ranting about this. It was four years ago. Move the hell on. The coaches made the decision for whatever reason, and we as fans (hate to break it to you but you aren't anything close to a coach) just have to live with it. It is in the past. Move on.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:01 am to chilge1
REALLY??? That is your response???
Who in the HELL expected a true freshman to have success against Auburn, ON THE ROAD??? IN A NIGHTTIME REVENGE GAME???
I wasn't the least bit surprised. But was that performance reason enough to not give him ANY MORE significant snaps the whole rest of the season???
Seriously. Please answer that question. With words, not a picture.
And while you're at it, how about answering my other question about the end of the 2011 season. Specifically the offensive performance in the first halves of the Arky and UGA game and the whole Bama rematch.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:02 am to LSU Jax
I can't remember where I read this - it was either a Cam or Les interview - but he said that Cam kept insisting Harris wasn't ready, and Les kept pressuring for Harris. Finally Cam relented, and they started Harris for Auburn. He was terrible, we were destroyed, and Harris was injured.
I'm not sure how true that is, but it came from one of the coaches. If it's true it's safe to assume that Les learned a lesson about interfering and let Cam call the shots the rest of the way.
I'm not sure how true that is, but it came from one of the coaches. If it's true it's safe to assume that Les learned a lesson about interfering and let Cam call the shots the rest of the way.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:02 am to LSU Jax
Look at the ankle
At least I think that's what he's trying to show you
At least I think that's what he's trying to show you
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:02 am to AmazinGrace
IF he starts, which is still in doubt. Like Lee, he will have a short leash. First screw up it's you're out, AJ is in and get used to the bench. HOWEVER, maybe, just maybe, Miles learned from his mistake and will play the player that gives us the best chance to win. That's what makes this season so scary because no one knows.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:05 am to Not Cooper
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Wasting your time ranting about this. It was four years ago. Move the hell on. The coaches made the decision for whatever reason, and we as fans (hate to break it to you but you aren't anything close to a coach) just have to live with it. It is in the past. Move on.
I'll rant if I want. I'm just illustrating the point I made earlier about Miles' track record with QBs to someone who disagrees with me.
Do you mind if I point out some facts to back up my assertion?
How about YOU move the hell on out of this thread?
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:10 am to LSU Jax
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And while you're at it, how about answering my other question about the end of the 2011 season. Specifically the offensive performance in the first halves of the Arky and UGA game and the whole Bama rematch.
Jefferson had over 250 yards against Arkansas and we don't even have the opportunity to play in Atlanta or New Orleans if not for Jefferson's efforts in Tuscaloosa.
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Wasting your time ranting about this. It was four years ago. Move the hell on. The coaches made the decision for whatever reason, and we as fans (hate to break it to you but you aren't anything close to a coach) just have to live with it. It is in the past. Move on.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:15 am to KingofthePoint
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Look at the ankle
At least I think that's what he's trying to show you
Yeah you may be right about that. And I have heard the whole "injury" thing. But he played, albeit it very little, just two weeks later against Kentucky. I just don't think I'm buying the injury.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:24 am to chilge1
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Jefferson had over 250 yards against Arkansas and we don't even have the opportunity to play in Atlanta or New Orleans if not for Jefferson's efforts in Tuscaloosa.
Jordan Jefferson fricking SUCKED BALLS as a QB!!!! PERIOD!!!! But whatever. I really don't care to rehash that. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that.
My point is that the same type of issue emerged last year. The issue of Miles' stubbornness with the QB position. More experience would have been HUGE for Harris leading into this year. And I'm just petrified at the thought of Harris getting off to a really good start this season, then struggling in one game, and being benched for the rest of the year. That precedent has absolutely been set twice now in the last four seasons.
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