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re: Mark Emmert: "Change is coming to NCAA"
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:51 am to lsusa
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:51 am to lsusa
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I'm against anything more than a four team playoff as I think that will hurt the game too. I think the BCS was much better than the old system, but as it played out in picking only 2 teams there proved to be a high chance that the 2nd best or perhaps even the best team was left out.
With four you may get some arguments that are 5 or 6 more deserving than 4, but you will almost certainly get the two best.
I concur.
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 5:05 am to sportsaddit68
I think the stronger conferences should form their own division. I would just like to see the NCAA left out of it. Make the break.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:21 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Posted by Lsuhoohoo quote: Gonna be a lot of butthurt ULL fans. Cajuns have nothing to do with this thread and yet here it is. You should start charging rent for the space UL occupies in your head.
I once spent 10 mins listening to an AT&T installer in Lafayette tell me how much LSU sucks, to which I responder by turning around my hardhat to show him my LSU CM alumni sticker. He then started crawfishing, but ended with "LSU is scared to play us at our place."
My response was "Well, my folks went to Mcneese, and they played you guys at your place. How'd that work out for you?"
He left.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:45 am to catholictigerfan
Working from your scenario
Big 10 wont touch schools that aren't members of the AAU, so I'd say they take two of UVA, UNC, GT, Duke. Duke may be a package deal with UNC.
SEC gets two of Florida State, Clemson, VT or NC State.
Big XII moves forward with their eastward expansion taking whichever two ACC schools the SEC didn't take along with Louisville, Pittsburgh, BC and probably Syracuse.
Curve ball comes from the PAC12, who poaches two disgruntled Big XII teams, maybe a combination Kansas, K State, Texas Tech or Baylor gets bold and jumps.
This scenario brings 4 conferences to 16 teams and still leaves a few big names out in the cold.
In all honesty, I think you get 5 conferences of 12-16 teams, not much different from what we have today, the only major movement being Notre Dame being subsumed into the Big 10, after they realize the writing is on the wall and that their bargaining power is reduced.
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Big 10 would most likely suck up most of the American Conference and some from the ACC. I would move Notre Dame to the Big 10. Big 12 would mostly take from some of the smaller conferences in the planes part of the country. Houston could be a team that could be added there.
Big 10 wont touch schools that aren't members of the AAU, so I'd say they take two of UVA, UNC, GT, Duke. Duke may be a package deal with UNC.
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I think the best thing to do would be for the SEC to add two ACC teams should be added to the SEC. Keep them in the East and move Mizzouri to the West. That will give 8 for the west and 8 for the east.
SEC gets two of Florida State, Clemson, VT or NC State.
Big XII moves forward with their eastward expansion taking whichever two ACC schools the SEC didn't take along with Louisville, Pittsburgh, BC and probably Syracuse.
Curve ball comes from the PAC12, who poaches two disgruntled Big XII teams, maybe a combination Kansas, K State, Texas Tech or Baylor gets bold and jumps.
This scenario brings 4 conferences to 16 teams and still leaves a few big names out in the cold.
In all honesty, I think you get 5 conferences of 12-16 teams, not much different from what we have today, the only major movement being Notre Dame being subsumed into the Big 10, after they realize the writing is on the wall and that their bargaining power is reduced.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:56 am to elprez00
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Mark Emmert handing in a resignation would be an excellent start.
Nothing else is even worth theorizing about until this happens.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:12 am to Katy Tiger
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Emmert is horrible. He has zero credibility on the enforcement side and is playing the bait and switch game. He doesn't want us talking about players taking cash, so they float this crap out there to try to divert coverage. If he had any nuts, Bama/Tennessee/MSU would be in trouble. But he doesn't and they won't be.
Let me repeat what KT says....is playing the bait and switch game.
This, Only This and nothing but THIS!
Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:23 am to Tiger Ice
I'm going to use this then. I will update the OP to add that in your new power division, do you pay your players anything? Any rules on agents? Etc.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:43 pm to sportsaddit68
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Just a complete guess.
But the ACC did a fine job replacing their "loss" in Md.
The Big Least goes to Non AQ status and will be a nice mid-level conference to play non conference games with.
But the Big 12 is the weakest of all since no one likes, or trusts Texas.
Again, not the ideal scenario, but Microsoft paint is F U N!!!!!
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:25 pm to dstone12
Up vote strictly for the Microsoft paint use.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:31 pm to sportsaddit68
Put all the teams in & relegation to the worst teams to sub division
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:44 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I don't understand the point of having so many schools with no even remotely realistic shot of winning a NC
This would have all but destroyed programs like Boise State and TCU. They were irrelevant and earned a reputation by dominating there leagues. Now they are with the big boys. Be careful all it takes is the right pieces to fall for a school to become a real player.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:58 pm to sportsaddit68
Preface- IMO NCAA idea of amateurism is a joke. CFB is a big business. Kill the charade and go all out with this idea.
They need to combine into a 40 team super league. Get the 40 best programs, however you want to define that. Forget conferences, set up regional divisions/pods/whatever. No rent a wins anymore. Last month of the season do regional championships, then semis, then the final. Can keep bowls (set up and run by the league, not 3rd party bowl clowns) for teams that dont make the tournament- more $$$
ESPN, CBS, FOX, NBC, would pay absurd money for a lean and mean (read not less games, just less weekends like last weekend) CFB regular season with a playoff system. They get more bang for their buck (why pay for Vandy just to get Bama?) and the teams drawing eyeballs get more $$$.
As a twist, set up relegation/promotion tournament for the other 60+ teams not in the super league. Have a set number of their best play an equal number of cellar dwellers in the super league. You suck (how much would it be to see USC or Texas have to fight for the super league status?), you dont get to keep cashing in the fat paycheck. Likewise you dominate your division, come play with the big boys and reap the rewards of the $$$.
They need to combine into a 40 team super league. Get the 40 best programs, however you want to define that. Forget conferences, set up regional divisions/pods/whatever. No rent a wins anymore. Last month of the season do regional championships, then semis, then the final. Can keep bowls (set up and run by the league, not 3rd party bowl clowns) for teams that dont make the tournament- more $$$
ESPN, CBS, FOX, NBC, would pay absurd money for a lean and mean (read not less games, just less weekends like last weekend) CFB regular season with a playoff system. They get more bang for their buck (why pay for Vandy just to get Bama?) and the teams drawing eyeballs get more $$$.
As a twist, set up relegation/promotion tournament for the other 60+ teams not in the super league. Have a set number of their best play an equal number of cellar dwellers in the super league. You suck (how much would it be to see USC or Texas have to fight for the super league status?), you dont get to keep cashing in the fat paycheck. Likewise you dominate your division, come play with the big boys and reap the rewards of the $$$.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:59 pm to sportsaddit68
The change I want to see in the NCAA is Emmert's resignation.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 6:00 pm to doya2
This will be excellent when the majors only play their upper tier peers. Thus instead of playing ULL or Southeast Missouri or North Texas they will probably be required to play out of conference big boys like Penn State, Oregon or Florida State. The fans will be big winners in these matchups but don't complain when your favorite team loses three or four games a year instead of one or two. The days of undefeated or one loss champions will likely be over.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 6:22 pm to penman
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This will be excellent when the majors only play their upper tier peers. Thus instead of playing ULL or Southeast Missouri or North Texas they will probably be required to play out of conference big boys like Penn State, Oregon or Florida State.
I don't think this happens. For two reasons. Hard to get home and homes with big time schools already. Plus the little schools will jump at the chance for a big paycheck. Furthermore, it is a better way for the SEC and PAC 12 to regulate their schedules to a big 12 or ACC schedule. Force teams to play 9 conference games with one major OOC game with another 2 Mid Majors. You'll get beat up by playing too many major teams......see SEC.
Still combine Strength of Schedule as a huge factor in the final 16 teams of my playoff scenario. And let 4 mid majors be in the playoffs so the top four teams get more of a break than playing another Big Time School.
There could be the same type of set up for the mid major schools. Let the Big East, Cusa, MWest, WAC, Sunbelt, MAC, BYU, Iowa State have it out for the final four teams in the playoff. There are always three or four good MW or Wac teams...toss in an annual CUSA/MAC 11-1 team and you have some good, but challenging 'byes' instead of having the #1 LSU, play a #16 2 loss Wisconsin or so.
Let's face it...four teams ain't gonna do it if a PLUS ONE scenario seems silly (they are virtually the same thing). Eight teams...sure, but 12 or 16 is better.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:49 pm to dstone12
I agree. I like my 16 team tournament. Yes, the chances of the best team losing increases. However, isn't that such a big storyline for college basketball when a number 1 seed loses in the second round?
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