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re: Mark Emmert: "Change is coming to NCAA"
Posted on 9/23/13 at 4:23 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 9/23/13 at 4:23 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
Wouldn't competing for an actual legitimate national title be better than competing for nothing more than a New Orleans Bowl trophy, which is realistically the best a team like that can do at the present time? It's not even meant as a knock on them, it's the facts of the system they are currently in.
^This^
I mean, yeah...you could theoretically schedule LSU, Bama, and Florida as your OOC games and finish undefeated - and have a legit shot (provided the stars were aligned just the right way). But can you say that's "realistic"?
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 4:23 pm to doya2
Lets throw a curve ball here. Same 8 conference 2 division with 4 teams each thing I mentioned before. However, lets try it NFL style. First 3 games are division teams. Next 4 games are other division teams (2 away and 2 at home and rotate every year). Last 3 games your division opposite home/away as earlier. Could even do one small school in the middle to give an 11 game schedule. Can you imagine playing BAMA twice a year everyone year. Good money there.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 4:26 pm to Lsuhoohoo
quote:pretty witty comeback there Cajun. The sad thing remains: you are a fan of ull.
Cajuns have nothing to do with this thread and yet here it is. You should start charging rent for the space UL occupies in your head.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 4:27 pm to otowntiger
Posted on 9/23/13 at 4:49 pm to Lsuhoohoo
quote:
Cajuns have nothing to do with this thread and yet here it is. You should start charging rent for the space UL occupies in your head.
Says La-Lafayette fan whose tigerdroppings account name is lsuhoohoo.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 5:20 pm to LSU GrandDad
quote:
Fragmenting the current Division I is a myopic idea that will negatively impact the long-term popularity of the sport.
i'm trying to figure out why and keep coming up short. please explain why you think so.
It would make the lower level or FBS irrelevant. Teams like Louisiana Tech and other schools stuck in that division would get as much publicity as the current FCS.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 5:23 pm to Lsuhoohoo
quote:
space UL occupies in your head
When did we mention Louisville.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 5:40 pm to sportsaddit68
Simplest solution is to realign the top 80 teams as the FBS and drop the other 40+ back to FCS.
Require FBS teams to only play FBS teams and go forward from there. You get rid of the crappy matchups/rent-a-wins and those lower tier (bottom 40+) teams have a shot at an FCS championship.
Sucks for them, but makes the most sense logistically and makes an FBS NC legitimate.
Require FBS teams to only play FBS teams and go forward from there. You get rid of the crappy matchups/rent-a-wins and those lower tier (bottom 40+) teams have a shot at an FCS championship.
Sucks for them, but makes the most sense logistically and makes an FBS NC legitimate.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 5:45 pm to Geauxgurt
He's gonna give the Alabama program and his midget friend in Tuscaloosa the "body cavity search" investigation they deserve?
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:41 pm to higgins
NCAA makes money off Alabama. They might search temple for the hell of it to seem legit though.. Maybe even the Richmond spiders. Punish two schools and brag about doing a good job.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:48 pm to sportsaddit68
Big 12 goes away so they get split by all.
-------------------------ACC
WVU added
ND added
--------------------------SEC
-adds OU and Ok St
----------------------------Pac 12 adds
UT, Baylor, TCU and Ttech
-----------------------------Big 10 (who cares) but they add Kansas and KSU
that's four 16 team leagues. "Champ'nship"
Take two highest ranked from each of the four leagues
Bama
LSU
FSU
Clemson
OSU
Wisconsin
Oregon
ASU
plus add four at large teams that are BIG 4 Schools or Little league that have to play the 2nd ranked of each league.
So you can take a Boise type team that went undefeated to play BAMA
Boise vs
Bama
winner vs LSU beats Bama
LSU
Uga is next best behind bama LSU to play a different league's #2
UGA vs
FSU
winner vs UGA beats Clemson
Clemson
Akron of last year did good, they play Wisconsin
Akron
Wis
winner vs Wisconsin beats OSU
OSU
Michigan, somehow does well and plays ASU
Michigan
ASU
winner vs
Oregon. OREGON beats Michigan
Fairly, Acc lost to their at large school so the final four looks like:
LSU
vs
Wisconsin
UGA
vs
OREGON
-------------------------ACC
WVU added
ND added
--------------------------SEC
-adds OU and Ok St
----------------------------Pac 12 adds
UT, Baylor, TCU and Ttech
-----------------------------Big 10 (who cares) but they add Kansas and KSU
that's four 16 team leagues. "Champ'nship"
Take two highest ranked from each of the four leagues
Bama
LSU
FSU
Clemson
OSU
Wisconsin
Oregon
ASU
plus add four at large teams that are BIG 4 Schools or Little league that have to play the 2nd ranked of each league.
So you can take a Boise type team that went undefeated to play BAMA
Boise vs
Bama
winner vs LSU beats Bama
LSU
Uga is next best behind bama LSU to play a different league's #2
UGA vs
FSU
winner vs UGA beats Clemson
Clemson
Akron of last year did good, they play Wisconsin
Akron
Wis
winner vs Wisconsin beats OSU
OSU
Michigan, somehow does well and plays ASU
Michigan
ASU
winner vs
Oregon. OREGON beats Michigan
Fairly, Acc lost to their at large school so the final four looks like:
LSU
vs
Wisconsin
UGA
vs
OREGON
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:09 pm to dstone12
quote:
Big 10 (who cares) but they add Kansas and KSU
Texas and Kansas (both AAU schools which the Big 10 requires). Although Buffalo (an AAU schools that is now branding itself as the State U. of New York) is a weird darkhorse that there's football chatter about up North.
quote:
Big 12 goes away so they get split by all.
Baylor and TCU would be left out if there's no Big 12 unless the SEC sees value in the Frogs/DFW market.
quote:
Pac 12 adds
UT, Baylor, TCU and Ttech
Texas Tech maybe...none of the others. Oklahoma State perhaps because...
quote:
SEC
-adds OU and Ok St
The SEC is not adding two schools from that small state. It would be OU and some one else. I could see WVU while the ACC takes UConn (been to a BCS bowl, have lots of $$$ to spend on football growth and brings more NYC market share)
Back to the Pac-12. They add TTech and maybe Nevada. Perhaps K-State to help their Eastern side along with Iowa State, an AAU school so they add research partnership interest to the big picture (not just athletics).
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:23 pm to sportsaddit68
I have been saying for a few years that the Big 12, Pac, Big 10, ACC and SEC needed to split off and form their own division AND only play each other.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:24 pm to sportsaddit68
I hate the idea of anything more than a four team playoff. Will ruin part of what is great about college football.
But if you're going to do it, go ahead and go with -
8 conferences of 16 teams each
Each team plays 9 conference games and 3 out of conference
Each conference has a championship game
16 team playoff with the 8 conference champions getting an automatic bid. Other 8 are at large.
There will have to be some set of rules for OOC scheduling. Maybe no more FCS teams? One OOC game can be an annual "rivalry" that the schools schedule or any other team they want to play. The other Two OOC games must cycle through the other six conferences every 3 years (ie acc and sun belt year 1, acc and PAC 16 year 2, big ten and American year 3....and the traditional opponent is say in the big 16). If a team doesn't want/have a traditional opponent they just have to make sure they play a team from one of the other 7 conference within the three year period.
But if you're going to do it, go ahead and go with -
8 conferences of 16 teams each
Each team plays 9 conference games and 3 out of conference
Each conference has a championship game
16 team playoff with the 8 conference champions getting an automatic bid. Other 8 are at large.
There will have to be some set of rules for OOC scheduling. Maybe no more FCS teams? One OOC game can be an annual "rivalry" that the schools schedule or any other team they want to play. The other Two OOC games must cycle through the other six conferences every 3 years (ie acc and sun belt year 1, acc and PAC 16 year 2, big ten and American year 3....and the traditional opponent is say in the big 16). If a team doesn't want/have a traditional opponent they just have to make sure they play a team from one of the other 7 conference within the three year period.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:28 pm to lsusa
quote:
8 conferences of 16 teams each
Umm... There aren't even 128 schools in the FBS.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:28 pm to Lsuhoohoo
quote:
You should start charging rent for the space UL occupies in your head.
Well done, sir.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:35 pm to sportsaddit68
Emmert is horrible. He has zero credibility on the enforcement side and is playing the bait and switch game. He doesn't want us talking about players taking cash, so they float this crap out there to try to divert coverage.
If he had any nuts, Bama/Tennessee/MSU would be in trouble. But he doesn't and they won't be.
If he had any nuts, Bama/Tennessee/MSU would be in trouble. But he doesn't and they won't be.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:38 pm to SG_Geaux
quote:
Umm... There aren't even 128 schools in the FBS.
Appreciate if someone knows the current exact number, but I thought there were 121 this year with a few more schools set to move up soon like Appy State and Georgia Southern.
Getting 3-5 more teams wouldn't be too hard.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 10:40 pm to lsusa
quote:
Getting 3-5 more teams wouldn't be too hard.
The problem is there are too many teams in the FBS right now. We need fewer teams not more.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:08 am to SG_Geaux
quote:
The problem is there are too many teams in the FBS right now. We need fewer teams not more.
Why is that a problem?
I guess there is a subjective argument that there is a lot bigger talent gap between 1 and 128...but you can also make a case that more schools equals more fans and a higher interest level equals more money.
Has it hurt the basketball tournament that smaller conference teams participate?
If you have a 16 team tourney at the end, it's a pretty safe bet that at least the 12 best teams in the country will get in.
I'd also say along the lines of your opinion it's a problem, i share the opposite idea that limiting it to 64 teams would make it more like the NFL and even more of a "business" than it already is, and that would detract from the game.
I'm against anything more than a four team playoff as I think that will hurt the game too. I think the BCS was much better than the old system, but as it played out in picking only 2 teams there proved to be a high chance that the 2nd best or perhaps even the best team was left out.
With four you may get some arguments that are 5 or 6 more deserving than 4, but you will almost certainly get the two best.
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