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re: Manieri's uncomfortable interview in the Advocate
Posted on 6/27/15 at 12:37 pm to 1loyalbamafan
Posted on 6/27/15 at 12:37 pm to 1loyalbamafan
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Is that factual? I know a Vanderbilt education is worth a great deal, but if your goal is the MLB I think you can be as dumb as a Rock......er.
It's a cultural thing, I think. Vanderbilt is more likely to recruit kids who also have some degree of excellence in the classroom.
I'm not saying LSU recruits are dumb. Not by a longshot. But many of them of them see their schooling as a means to an end. Or in some cases, they see their LSU offer as a bargaining chip. It's debatable whether LSU is THE "brand name" we think it is, but I'm sure MLB scouts will see an LSU offer as an indicator that this guy should be on their radar.
This post was edited on 6/27/15 at 12:38 pm
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Posted on 6/27/15 at 1:13 pm to tiger25
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oh my god stfu we all agreed that starting Poche in the first game was the right move
Posted on 6/27/15 at 1:17 pm to lsu711
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Zardon is #1 on CPMs all time shite list and I can't figure out why.
In the last four years, only 7 recruits out of high school have graduated at LSU. Believe me, Zardon is only one of many. Sad, but true.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 1:22 pm to Asllan
I thought Poche was an interesting idea but I didn't realize until we were in the moment that we had to win four games in the loser's bracket and Lange would only be available for one of them. And then I realized that if Lange started game 1 and LSU lost (which hadn't happened all year), he would still be available if we needed him by the weekend.
Is it fair to ask if Mainieri thought of this when he made the decision?
Is it fair to ask if Mainieri thought of this when he made the decision?
Posted on 6/27/15 at 1:27 pm to Asllan
Since the regional:
Hale + Chi
2-38, 2 BB, 2 RBI
Zardon
1-2, 1BB, 1 RBI
Hale + Chi
2-38, 2 BB, 2 RBI
Zardon
1-2, 1BB, 1 RBI
Posted on 6/27/15 at 3:29 pm to recruitnik
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Right, in the case of Florida their brand is much more recognizable and much more respected. You can't seriously think that the school that produced Gatorade doesn't have a branding advantage over a school whose fanbase shits all over their own logo any time they get a chance.
How many baseball titles and CWS appearances does Florida have?
Posted on 6/27/15 at 3:45 pm to LSUAshlyn
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How many baseball titles and CWS appearances does Florida have?
More to the point, "branding advantage" is a relative term, and baseball is in an entirely different category than the other two big college sports. It's a blip on the radar comparatively.
As a "brand" I don't think anyone comes close to LSU in baseball. When it comes to college baseball if you ask anyone with any knowledge of it, LSU is the bell cow.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:27 pm to LSU Wayne
wow, i can't believe he said private schools have a huge advantage. Tops anyone? what a bunch of excuses.
Posted on 6/27/15 at 4:30 pm to Penrod
I live in Florida and can tell you that college baseball fans are much more aware of LSU than they are of UF baseball.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 10:01 am to Penrod
"I don't think that's true, JJ. I'm no expert, but I don't think a baseball player can get TOPS in lieu of a baseball scholarship."
They can't get TOPS plus an ahletics scholarship, but it's still a huge advantage over Vandy and even some state schools. It means your walk ons can go to school for free (i.e. a scholarship). When you are limited to 11.7 that is kind of a big deal in recruiting. It will be less so when the full cost of tuition thing happens though, because then there will be a gap between scholarship players and non....but for now it is a huge advantage.
Things are much tougher for private schools in baseball. It is un unlevel playing field, but it is unlevel tilted in favor of the LSUs of the world
They can't get TOPS plus an ahletics scholarship, but it's still a huge advantage over Vandy and even some state schools. It means your walk ons can go to school for free (i.e. a scholarship). When you are limited to 11.7 that is kind of a big deal in recruiting. It will be less so when the full cost of tuition thing happens though, because then there will be a gap between scholarship players and non....but for now it is a huge advantage.
Things are much tougher for private schools in baseball. It is un unlevel playing field, but it is unlevel tilted in favor of the LSUs of the world
This post was edited on 6/28/15 at 10:07 am
Posted on 6/28/15 at 10:12 am to waveprof
Vanderbilt's need based aid program easily offsets any advantage LSU would have over them with TOPS.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 11:20 am to ell_13
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Since the regional:
so 5 games
Posted on 6/28/15 at 11:48 am to lsufball19
40 plate appearances
Posted on 6/28/15 at 11:48 am to ell_13
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40 plate appearances
so 5 games
Posted on 6/28/15 at 11:50 am to lsufball19
At the end of the year. Most important games. Felt the need to make drastic pitching changes. Why not with these two? Why the double standard from you? They looked like shite. Paul did nothing.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:06 pm to ell_13
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Felt the need to make drastic pitching changes. Why not with these two? Why the double standard from you? They looked like shite. Paul did nothing.
paul handled both the same way he did all season. he had done the "johnny wholestaff" and regulated innings like that for pitchers all season. whether that was the right move is another discussion altogether. hale and chinea had been two of our best hitters all season and had started all season. no, he's not going to bench them because they had a few bad games.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:11 pm to lsufball19
He started Person once all year. And the whole staff thing is the biggest fricking cop out. Because that's the excuse for taking out successful pitchers and leaving in the ones struggling.
Chi struggled early. Got very hot and was our best hitter for almost two months until the post season. Hale was very consistent until the post season. Don't like 5 games? How about the last 12. Numbers aren't much better.
But why does that excuse doing nothing? Are they owed something even when a championship is on the line? "Oh well. They're seniors and played all year... My hands are tied." Awesome.
Chi struggled early. Got very hot and was our best hitter for almost two months until the post season. Hale was very consistent until the post season. Don't like 5 games? How about the last 12. Numbers aren't much better.
But why does that excuse doing nothing? Are they owed something even when a championship is on the line? "Oh well. They're seniors and played all year... My hands are tied." Awesome.
This post was edited on 6/28/15 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:42 pm to MOT
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Vanderbilt's need based aid program easily offsets any advantage LSU would have over them with TOPS.
Explain to me how MOT. Not being contrary, I just don't know how this program of Vandy's works, but it sure seems like TOPS gives LSU an advantage over most, freeing schollies for big time out of state players.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 1:11 pm to Tiger Ugly
TOPS is obviously limited to in state players, only covers tuition (plus a stipend depending on the level) and not the full cost, plus LSU has no control over who is eligible/qualified. All I know about the Vandy program is what was posted earlier in the thread. It looks like their "institutional" formula determines the amount of aid and it isn't limited to Tennessee residents.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 2:01 pm to MOT
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TOPS is obviously limited to in state players,
Obviously.
quote:Does Vandy's program allow them to exceed the 11.7 rule?
only covers tuition (plus a stipend depending on the level) and not the full cost
Edit - went back and read the link you referenced. Would be interesting to see how many of Vandy's players received this and what percentage of cost of attending each had to pay into it.
You'd also have to know the number of LSU players receiving TOPS in order to make a valid and qualified comparison as to any advantage gained.
This post was edited on 6/28/15 at 2:16 pm
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