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re: Manieri's uncomfortable interview in the Advocate
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:05 am to lsufball19
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:05 am to lsufball19
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that's a nice strawman you have there
Well I mean its not as nice as the claim that financially disadvantaged kids are choosing to turn down millions of dollars to go to college because they want an education first. That schools like Vandy and Stanford have an advantage over a school like LSU where any state player can qualify to get a free ride.
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Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:07 am to sicboy
Joe Alleva needs to give him one more year regardless of his regular season Ryan Theriot said it best. Coach Bertman and his team goal was not Second titles SEC tourney titles, or winning 50 games. That's what CPM is concerned with not Postseason. If we don't at least make it to the championship game next year CPM needs to go.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:10 am to sicboy
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Does he explain anywhere in that interview why his teams can't hit in the postseason?
Or does he explain why winning the first game in Omaha isn't that important against a school like TCU (to gain in that recruiting advantage).
See, this right here gets me. He is cognizant of TCU and recruiting, yet when we play them and have a chance on the BIGGEST stage, he doesn't start his ace!
I'm sorry guys, but it is ALWAYS someone else's fault with PM. There is no self realization when he has a chance to make excuses.
He made some remedial coaching gaffes in Omaha...and afterwards, pointed towards the kids!
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:11 am to Catman88
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Well I mean its not as nice as the claim that financially disadvantaged kids are choosing to turn down millions of dollars to go to college because they want an education first. That schools like Vandy and Stanford have an advantage over a school like LSU where any state player can qualify to get a free ride.
i don't think you understood the comment. that's ok
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:11 am to Tiger79
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Joe Alleva needs to give him one more year regardless of his regular season Ryan Theriot said it best. Coach Bertman and his team goal was not Second titles SEC tourney titles, or winning 50 games. That's what CPM is concerned with not Postseason. If we don't at least make it to the championship game next year CPM needs to go.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:50 am to Penrod
Good lord PM
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:57 am to Tiger79
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If we don't at least make it to the championship game next year CPM needs to go.
And we'll just have our pick of coaches to choose from after that.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:01 am to TigerCub
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If all of the freshmen had pitched like Jake Godfrey, Austin Bain, Doug Norman, then it would have been a mediocre season because those guys had great moments but they had poor moments as well.
Throws pitchers under the bus, forgets to throw Stallings under the bus
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:11 am to Penrod
When was the last time LSU didn't feature a top 10 recruiting class? We had the #1 class in 2014 and this year... But our coach is complaining about recruiting disadvantages? That's just lunacy.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:16 am to JJ27
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Sorry, but LSU has a huge recruiting advantage as well with TOPS.
I thought we couldn't use TOPS to add to our 11.7. ditto with Georgia's HOPE program.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:22 am to crazyLSUfan
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I also really hate that he said he doesn't have time to develop a young pitchers 3rd pitch bc
I didn't see the interview but it pisses me off to hear he said this. there is the whole off season to develop new pitches as well as the "pre season" cupcakes we play early in the year.
our pitchers have pitched all through high school and have a strong foundation mentally already. I am adamant that our starters need 3 pitches and our relievers need a damn change up.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:24 am to LSU GrandDad
It's never PM's fault.....just ask him.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:30 am to LSU GrandDad
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there is the whole off season to develop new pitches as well as the "pre season" cupcakes we play early in the year.
I agree with you on this. Summer league for pitchers should be used to fine tune what they already do well and work on adding to their repertoire.
Guys like Lange and Poche, who won't be in summer ball because of the innings they threw this season can work on that kind of stuff in the fall. There are enough non-regular-season opportunities to develop these guys.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:34 am to Penrod
Advantages for Vandy? What a turd. Do they even have an AD?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:41 am to LSU GrandDad
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I thought we couldn't use TOPS to add to our 11.7. ditto with Georgia's HOPE program
It doesn't "add" to the 11.7, but players can still receive it.
I think what other posters are saying is that the advantage it used to provide has been diminished because of the new scholarship/roster rules that went into effect a few years ago where a certain number of players have to receive a minimum % of the 11.7. Maybe someone that knows the specifics can chime in, but I don't think we can "save" as much of the 11.7 as we used to with TOPS.
I would also like to hear more about what the Vandy/Stanford type schools can do in the way of aid. Is it something beyond the typical federal grant/aid that they can control due to being private?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:43 am to Loveland Tiger
IMO, CPM's teams are not nearly as mentally tough as Skip's teams. CPM has plenty of talent , but it seems that they don't perform their best on the big stage. Skip prepped his players to peak in pressure situations. That's the difference. No more or less.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:43 am to MOT
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I would also like to hear more about what the Vandy/Stanford type schools can do in the way of aid. Is it something beyond the typical federal grant/aid that they can control due to being private?
I don't know the full specifics, but I know it's similar to what the Ivy schools do. A shite ton of their own financial aid to those that qualify for it. And then I'm sure they actively seek out whatever academic money they can give them too.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:45 am to michael corleone
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IMO, CPM's teams are not nearly as mentally tough as Skip's teams
Teams take their cue from the coach. Frowny McWhineypants isn't mentally tough so his teams aren't either.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:46 am to Tiger79
Tiger79, so LSU fires CPM & then tells the next HC that you can win the SEC regular season title, win the most games in a college baseball season playing in the toughest conference in the country, sweep your regional, sweep your super regional, but if you don't win/make it to the NCG, you will be fired, too. Am I reading you correctly? I have absolutely nothing bad to say about the interview, and he was responding to questions put to him. And tell what exactly what he said that was "wrong"? Every pitcher on the staff was given multiple opportunities all during the season to step up & earn a bigger role, and each, as he stated, failed to do so consistently. And, yes, Vandy & TCU does have a decided financial advantage when it comes to recruiting & that was mentioned during the series by KP.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:51 am to Keltic Tiger
Vandy and TCU could give lap dances in public to every recruit but it doesn't change the fact that LSU has had the top recruiting class the last two years and a top 10 class or better for a very long time. It doesn't change the fact that teams like ULL are doing just as well with far far less talent. At some point it's the responsibility of the coach to recruit players that will play for him and then when they are here make them better players.
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