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re: Manieri's uncomfortable interview in the Advocate
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:39 am to sicboy
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:39 am to sicboy
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Maybe I'm off base, but I took it as kids that would go to a school like Vanderbilt are more interested in getting their degree and would pass up money to do so.
no, it's just a much better fallback if baseball doesn't work out. most of those players still leave before they graduate, but if something happens, they have a vandy degree. they can also go back to school in the offseason and finish. a vandy degree >>>>>> lsu degree. but even at vandy you're gonna have to make it worth their while to turn down millions out of high school. this is where the financial aid packages come into play
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Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:40 am to double d
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Vandy costs over $70,000 a year and dividing up 11.7 over a team means the families have to come up with way more than LSU's tuition. Getting guys who can get academic rides is critical for them
that's the thing, they don't. they are given need-based financial aid packages to cover those higher costs, which is what Mainieri is talking about
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:40 am to lsufball19
What is candid about blaming everyone and everything else but yourself about your teams shortcomings? That's a coward where I come from.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:41 am to Catman88
That interview is insulting to his players.
What a failure.
What a failure.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:42 am to lsufball19
So why isn't Yale and Brown beating us in baseball when they fly down here?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:42 am to CptBengal
Vandy and Stanford can give additional aid to cover the whole cost of attending college to parents whose income is not over a certain amount and that gets around the partial scholarship issue that affects everyone else.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:44 am to Catman88
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So why isn't Yale and Brown beating us in baseball when they fly down here?
because yale and brown don't make exceptions for athletes like a P5 conference team does.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:46 am to nicholastiger
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Vandy and Stanford can give additional aid to cover the whole cost of attending college to parents whose income is not over a certain amount and that gets around the partial scholarship issue that affects everyone else.
Then its not a level playing field and PM is correct.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:48 am to Catman88
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That's a coward where I come from.
that's a realist and honesty where i come from. you really think coaches truly believe most of what they say in interviews? and people to to chill the hell out about mainieri "throwing kids under the bus." people around here will manipulate anything he says now into him shitting on his players. if you actually listen to his interviews, he praises his team all the damn time and how much he loves his players. skip was an actual fricking a-hole. but yes, he gets a pass because he won more. it's getting really old honestly
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 9:06 am
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:48 am to Catman88
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Aaron Nola wasn’t that good as a true freshman.
You completely took that quote out of context.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:48 am to MoreOrLes
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Then its not a level playing field and PM is correct.
bingo
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:49 am to KingofthePoint
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You completely took that quote out of context.
the "mainieri is an a-hole" crowd takes everything he says out of context to further their hate for him
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:49 am to nicholastiger
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to parents whose income is not over a certain amount
I would be curious to see how many top players even qualify.. What is the "amount"? Most baseball players don't come from poor families.. Hell today many of these kids had parents spending thousands on their kids putting them through travel ball until they got to college.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:52 am to Catman88
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I would be curious to see how many top players even qualify..
enough
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Hell today many of these kids had parents spending thousands on their kids putting them through travel ball until they got to college.
you don't think elite prospects get "help"with those costs if they need it?
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Most baseball players don't come from poor families.
that's a nice strawman you have there
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 8:52 am
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:54 am to whodatigahbait
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they also recruit against more schools in state...UF recruits again FSU...ATM recruits UT-Austin...LSU recruits against nobody in-state...this all sounds like sour graps....also in regard to the Vandy complaining LSU is a lot cheaper than vandy wouldn't that be an advantage?
He listed UF and A&M because they are the SEC schools. FSU, UT, Texas Tech, UH and every other school in Texas all also have that same advantage over LSU.
This shouldn't be a controversial statement. Louisiana has a little over 200,000 high school students. Texas has around 5,000,000. That means Texas colleges have roughly 25 times as many potential "cheap" baseball recruits compared to Louisiana colleges. Its just math. By cheap I mean both that it is cheaper for the player as far as out-of-pocket costs to attend school and it is cheaper for the school because they don't have to use limited available scholarships on these players.
More cheap recruits mean that its easier to convince them that it makes financial sense to come to college and as a bonus you have more scholarships to offer blue-chip out of state guys.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 8:55 am
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:57 am to Manchac Man
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Are the TCU''s and Vandy's really at that much more of an advantage as CPM states? If so then why doesn't the NCAA allow the scholarship number to be raised from 11.7 to say....15. I personally think 11.7 is silly but I don't know much, lol.
no way this ever happens, and not bc of title 9 like everyone says
bc the populus of schools in general know what would happen......imagine the team we had plus with those 3 extra schollys we'd pull a Carson Fulmer from Vandy and a Benetendi from Arky.......thats why
we'd turn into the 90s yankees
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:57 am to studentsect
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:58 am to LSU Wayne
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Good God. Why can't he simply own it? Say that although we had a highly successful year, they failed to meet the lofty standard of expectations that exist at LSU. That he understands and accepts and embraces those expectations and feeds the drive that he, his staff and players all come to work to fulfill day after day, year after year. No excuses....our goal is to keep LSU on top and concede nothing to anyone. Now it is time to self evaluate, identify our weaknesses, understand how the game may be changing, and adapt to get back to where we need to be. That is our sole focus and we are working overtime to ensure we are on the right track.
Why can't he just say that?
maybe because it's part 1 of the interview and he says it later?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:59 am to sicboy
Ding ding ding. Kids who pick Vandy and UVA are also picking those schools because they value the educational aspect equal to the baseball aspect. Kids who pick LSU tend to do so strictly for baseball and thus are more likely to sign with the pros out of high school.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:04 am to Penrod
He's just trying to cover his arse for his team's performances for the last 7 results at the CWS.
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