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re: Manieri's uncomfortable interview in the Advocate

Posted on 6/26/15 at 7:57 am to
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30226 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 7:57 am to
quote:

. I'm no expert, but I don't think a baseball player can get TOPS in lieu of a baseball scholarship


Indeed they can, as long as they are from in state and have the grades.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:05 am to
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Sounds like Mainieri could be the next coach in Lafayette with all those excuses.


Why would UL downgrade?


Roll Louisiana
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60231 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:06 am to
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I don't think that's true, JJ. I'm no expert, but I don't think a baseball player can get TOPS in lieu of a baseball scholarship


It's pretty much LSU's blue print for instate recruiting.
Posted by studentsect
Member since Jan 2004
2258 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Then he segued into some bullshite about some state schools, like Florida and TAMU, having a population advantage. While technically it's true that they have larger populations, they don't have our brand. It kind of pissed me off that CPM is claiming a disadvantage to UF and TAMU.


UF and A&M have a larger pool of potential players that are eligible for state-based financial incentives; this is important in a sport where the scholarships are limited. I'm pretty sure he was just saying it would be nice if we had more recruits eligible for TOPS.
Posted by nicholastiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
42080 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:10 am to
And then he topped it off by throwing Nola under the bus! Ha Ha Joking

Can't wait for Part II

It’s very unusual to have an Alex Lange as a true freshman. Aaron Nola wasn’t that good as a true freshman.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:10 am to
Everything he says comes off, to me, as whining and excuse making.

I also really hate that he said he doesn't have time to develop a young pitchers 3rd pitch bc they're in situations where they have to win. Last I checked there'd be some games throughout the regular season where you can work on development without costing your team a chance at winning. Also, if you lose a game or two early, but had great pitcher development in the process, what difference does it make?
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1745 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:14 am to
quote:

quote:
Then he segued into some bullshite about some state schools, like Florida and TAMU, having a population advantage. While technically it's true that they have larger populations, they don't have our brand. It kind of pissed me off that CPM is claiming a disadvantage to UF and TAMU.


UF and A&M have a larger pool of potential players that are eligible for state-based financial incentives; this is important in a sport where the scholarships are limited. I'm pretty sure he was just saying it would be nice if we had more recruits eligible for TOPS.


they also recruit against more schools in state...UF recruits again FSU...ATM recruits UT-Austin...LSU recruits against nobody in-state...this all sounds like sour graps....also in regard to the Vandy complaining LSU is a lot cheaper than vandy wouldn't that be an advantage?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:16 am to
quote:

It’s not a normal thing for a player to turn down $2 million signing bonuses to attend LSU. But that happens pretty regularly at Vanderbilt. Anybody could speculate to what those reasons are.


shots fricking fired
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7046 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:18 am to
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Sorry, but LSU has a huge recruiting advantage as well with TOPS


yes, and our opponents will say an unfair advantage.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6692 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:21 am to
quote:

It’s not a normal thing for a player to turn down $2 million signing bonuses to attend LSU. But that happens pretty regularly at Vanderbilt. Anybody could speculate to what those reasons are. I’m not going to sit here and say anything.


What are you telling me here?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Jared Poché did not dominate on the mound and the guys we used in Game 3 did not dominate on the mound.


Threw 1 player under the bus and then half the pen..

So I guess Newman, Norman and Duvall didn't dominate?? Or did they dominate too much so had to be pulled. Bugg did just fine too. It was the dickhead coach that failed THE MOUND.

Asshat didn't take a single ounce of blame anywhere.


Then this to finish it off:

Aaron Nola wasn’t that good as a true freshman.

WTF? I mean he wasn't All American but seriously? What a dick
quote:


2012 SEASON
Appeared in 19 games (16 starts), posting a 7-4 record and a 3.61 ERA in 89.2 innings with seven walks and 89 strikeouts … finished No. 1 in the SEC in fewest walks allowed and in batters struck out looking (40), and No. 9 in the league in overall strikeouts … pitched effectively in Game 1 of the NCAA Super Regional (June 8) versus Stony Brook, limiting the Seawolves to two runs on nine hits in six innings with no walks and six strikeouts … named to the 2012 NCAA Regional All-Tournament Team after defeating UL-Monroe in Tigers' opening game of tournament -- limited the Warhawks to one run on four hits in a career-high eight innings with a career-best 10 strikeouts … defeated Ole Miss (May 6) with excellent seven-inning outing - allowed three runs on seven hits with two walks and three strikeouts … posted win over Alabama (April 15), allowing one run on three hits in five innings with no walks and five strikeouts … recorded nine strikeouts on April 1 start vs. Arkansas - limited the Razorbacks to two runs on three hits in 6.1 innings with one walk and nine strikeouts (no decision in a 3-2 LSU win) … delivered an excellent performance in his second career SEC start on March 25 at Auburn … limited Auburn to three runs on eight hits in 7.1 innings with no walks and two strikeouts … delivered a dominant performance on March 6 in just his second career collegiate start, blanking Tulane through eight innings of work in a 5-0 victory in New Orleans … allowed just three hits against the Green Wave while recording no walks and six strikeouts … Nola fired 78 pitches in the outing at Tulane; remarkably, 62 of the 78 pitches (79 percent) were strikes.



This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 8:27 am
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:29 am to
Are you really surprised by this? I'm not. But I am disgusted by it and completely tired of it.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64376 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Sorry, but LSU has a huge recruiting advantage as well with TOPS.

not everyone qualifies for TOPS, and that only pertains to in state players. Vandy can give VERY generous financial aid packages to anyone from anywhere, not to mention an education at Vandy is a little better sell than one at LSU.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:30 am to
Was PM insinuating cheating at a place like Vandy? Sure sounded like it to me.


Kids don't pass up millions to come to LSU but they do at other schools?
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77525 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:32 am to
Maybe I'm off base, but I took it as kids that would go to a school like Vanderbilt are more interested in getting their degree and would pass up money to do so.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64376 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:33 am to
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Why can't he simply own it? Say that although we had a highly successful year, they failed to meet the lofty standard of expectations that exist at LSU. That he understands and accepts and embraces those expectations and feeds the drive that he, his staff and players all come to work to fulfill day after day, year after year. No excuses....our goal is to keep LSU on top and concede nothing to anyone. Now it is time to self evaluate, identify our weaknesses, understand how the game may be changing, and adapt to get back to where we need to be. That is our sole focus and we are working overtime to ensure we are on the right track.

i actually appreciate how candid Mainieri is. he says what he really thinks and how he really feels unlike the coach speak bullshite everyone else says (basically what you typed above). i couldn't really care less about hearing coaching cliches in every single interview like you hear 99% of the time from other coaches
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:33 am to
quote:

It’s not a normal thing for a player to turn down $2 million signing bonuses to attend LSU. But that happens pretty regularly at Vanderbilt. Anybody could speculate to what those reasons are. I’m not going to sit here and say anything.


I guess he means they qualify for full-ride academic scholarships? Or Vandy buys insurance for them? Or Vandy is outright paying people SMU style?

Posted by lsufan251875
Member since Jul 2008
3159 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:36 am to
I'd like to point out that Kentucky basketball fans didn't melt as hard as LSU baseball fans have.

quote:

Aaron Nola wasn’t that good as a true freshman


It blows my mind how dense so many of you are. Use just a small amount of common sense and infer that he was saying "not even Aaron Nola was that good as a true freshman"
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64376 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Was PM insinuating cheating at a place like Vandy? Sure sounded like it to me.

not cheating but they sure have an easier time managing their 11.7 scholarships when they can basically give their kids full rides with financial aid packages. makes it a lot easier to convince a kid to turn down a couple million dollars. i think he's basically saying it's a competitive disadvantage and that the ncaa needs to reevaluate how baseball programs provide for their players. maybe it's his way of saying 11.7 limitation is ridiculous and needs to be addressed
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16395 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 8:38 am to
Private schools have a huge disadvantage compared to LSU. Tuition at LSU is cheap and the in state kids have TOPS. Vandy costs over $70,000 a year and dividing up 11.7 over a team means the families have to come up with way more than LSU's tuition. Getting guys who can get academic rides is critical for them

No big state university is at a disadvantage over the privates.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 8:40 am
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