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re: LSU should be a perennial basketball power

Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by FrancisFromScottLA
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:12 pm to
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LSU should be a perennial basketball power


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RidiculousHype



Very fitting.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68347 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:22 pm to
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But with the exception of short period with Lon Kruger, Florida was nothing in basketball until Billy Donovan was hired.



And look what they have already again in Mike White. A guy who coached in our backyard for a few years, did well enough at LT (but didnt even make tournament), goes to UF and they are fighting for a 2 seed 2 years in.

Meanwhile we just want to win a game right now, any game. Just pathetic. Basketball makes me sick with LSU. So many "what could have" beens. All the talent that passes through the state, and yes through this program, and we have won 1 game in the NCAAT in the last DECADE
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 2:24 pm
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:26 pm to
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Last 30 years of LSU basketball:

1 Final Four and 1 Sweet 16.
Only 6 NCAA tournament berths in the last 24 years.
1 NCAA tournament win in the last 11 years.

"Perennial Power" is not in the DNA of this program at the moment. No matter who is coaching next year, it will be an uphill climb to get relevant again.




We have a winner.

Also, while Foley struck gold with Donovan and it's looking good for White, he is only 1.5 out of 4 in football choices. (The jury is out on McIlwain IMO).
Neither Donovan nor White were sure things. That's the nature of coaching hires. What Donovan did is absolutely phenomenal. He took a program with virtually no pedigree in hoops and made it into a power.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 3:17 pm to
Facilities are subpar. PMAC is a dump.
Posted by Farkwad
Byzantium
Member since Sep 2010
2669 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 3:18 pm to
Damn! North Dakota representing!
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 3:33 pm to
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No matter who is coaching next year, it will be an uphill climb to get relevant again.
I just don't buy this.
You think it will be breeze for someone to just walk in and be a Final Four contender day 1?
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I see no reason we can't be a tournament team with 1 or 2 good recruiting classes and a good coaching hire.
That's likely true, but will still be a struggle at the outset to turn the program around while you bring in those couple of good recruiting classes and develop that talent a little. I suspect that's why he said "next year" will be an uphill climb.

Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15607 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 3:41 pm to
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LSUGrad9295
LSU should be a perennial basketball power by LSUGrad9295

Last 30 years of LSU basketball: 1 Final Four and 1 Sweet 16. Only 6 NCAA tournament berths in the last 24 years. 1 NCAA tournament win in the last 11 years.
"Perennial Power" is not in the DNA of this program at the moment. No matter who is coaching next year, it will be an uphill climb to get relevant again.





True, but it could be and should be. From 1978-1992, LSU went to the dance just about every year and had 2 Final Four appearances and at least 8 Round-of-32 appearances and 3 or 4 Sweet 16s.
But since then, there's just been 2000 (Sweet 16), and 2006 (Final Four).
We need to get back to the 80's mentality somehow, some way.
Posted by Philip Heruterus
Beyond Dirk Island
Member since Aug 2013
114 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:07 pm to
LINK

"Baton Rouge, Louisiana is the 93rd largest city in the United States, but No. 7 in terms of NBA presence ahead of Houston or Phoenix. Brandon Bass, Marcus Thornton, Glen Davis, Robert Sacre, Langston Galloway and Garrett Temple were all born there".

The article is 2 years old. Both Jarrell Martin and Damian Jones have been on NBA rosters this season.

8 players from Baton Rouge in the NBA would place Baton Rouge 4th behind Los Angeles, New York and Chicago

Yes LSU should be a perennial basketball power, and it is so sad to see the program being shite away.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71694 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:12 pm to
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True, but it could be and should be. From 1978-1992, LSU went to the dance just about every year and had 2 Final Four appearances and at least 8 Round-of-32 appearances and 3 or 4 Sweet 16s.

We went to the tourney a lot but we didn't really have a great team after '81. We were consistently good but not close to a perennial power.
Posted by Taurus
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:29 pm to
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We need to get back to the 80's mentality somehow, some way.


Uhhhh, JJ was the guy who was supposed to do that. He played for and coached for Dale Brown, the worst one of the best coaches in SEC history.

Dude(Brown) was a basketball idiot, but motivated like no other. JJ was the last guy LSU needed to hire. He has no x and o skills and can't motivate worth a shite. Thus the team was destined to suck arse.
Posted by karralum
southeastern conference territory
Member since Apr 2012
1138 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:55 pm to
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You think it will be breeze for someone to just walk in and be a Final Four contender day 1


Thank you someone who gets it. Most of the posters here who disagrees with you, will tell you LSU has the best basketball players in the country. Yet none of them would be starting at the likes of Duke,UNC, Villanova etc...
Most here really dont follow basketball (besides looking up the scores) they are only here to troll the fire JJ train.
And some will quickly say well WE HAD THE #1 NBA PICK....but will ignore the problems that existed within the team because of him. One went so far to suggest that SIMMONS WAS BETTER THAN HEILD IN COLLEGE --> LINK
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4361 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 5:14 pm to
I see no reason why we should be a perennial power we have one of the smaller populations of the southern states a bunch of crazy know nothing fans wanting to run LSU sports programs instead of the coaches, me I expect LSU,s management to make those decisions not board crazies !
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39981 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 5:15 pm to
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You think it will be breeze for someone to just walk in and be a Final Four contender day 1?


Way to horribly misconstrue what I said.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26230 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 6:10 pm to
You can't do much with the current Tiger lineup. How did we ever get to be so lacking in talent?
Posted by Philip Heruterus
Beyond Dirk Island
Member since Aug 2013
114 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 6:42 pm to
Ok clearly you didnt read the link that was posted.

The State of Louisiana produces more players on NBA rosters per capita than any of the other 49 states,
and Baton Rouge has more players in the NBA outside of LA, NY, and Chicago.

There is a shite load of ridiculous talent that comes through this state, small population or not. It justis a matter of harnessing some of that talent to LSU. And there is no excuse to not make it happen, except for shitty arse coaching/administration/meddlers.

As was mentioned earlier, LSU made it to the final four with basically a lineup of Baton Rouge players.
Iam sick of listening to people who think LSU isnt worhty or capbable of being a powerhouse.
Posted by St Jean The Baptiste
Laredo, TX
Member since Aug 2015
5828 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:11 pm to
North Dakota State University should be a Final Four contender every year too.

Look at the map.

Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10954 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:57 am to
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We should demand a hell of a lot better than what we've seen of late.
Too many born, bred and raised in Louisiana people in the LSU fan base with expectations and acceptance of mediocrity; they have low standards of excellence for themselves, the State, the City of BR, the University and the Athletic programs of LSU......................
Posted by karralum
southeastern conference territory
Member since Apr 2012
1138 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:44 am to
Its no different in football and the nfl.
Posted by tigerMike
Chapel Hill, NC
Member since Jan 2005
839 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 6:41 am to
At this point, i'd settle for at least being in the (legit) bubble talk or better each year. 3 out of 4 tourneys or so with the 4th being NIT. For all the nega-Dale talk, he did have us in the post season like 17 or 18 straight years.

When I went to school, LSU basketball was legit and talked about on a national scale. And there were over 10,000 fans for all games and sell outs for the big ones. We can get there again.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 6:42 am
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 6:45 am to
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Last 30 years of LSU basketball


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1 Final Four and 1 Sweet 16.




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LSU should be a perennial basketball power by LSUGrad9295


It never has been.
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