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LSU should be a perennial basketball power
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:04 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:04 am
Fertile recruiting territory.
Only major school in our state.
Name brand.
Former greats.
Facilities/money.
We should demand a hell of a lot better than what we've seen of late.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 2:31 pm
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:05 am to RidiculousHype
Agreed.
But it will take a Jeremy Foley-type AD to make it happen.
But it will take a Jeremy Foley-type AD to make it happen.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:08 am to RidiculousHype
Embarrassing that we've had the quality players in years past we've had and have so little to show for it.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:11 am to RidiculousHype
though leading the nation in NBA players is not necessarily indicative of college success I get where you are going with this. Everything else is spot on.
I've had enough of this shitty fricking regime. Thanks for the stadium windows Joe but how about you pump some money into basketball and give us a coach who at least isn't lost. oh and here is a novel idea, promote the program.
"25 is coming"
ok, he came and you fricked that up. What now? its only gotten worse since
I've had enough of this shitty fricking regime. Thanks for the stadium windows Joe but how about you pump some money into basketball and give us a coach who at least isn't lost. oh and here is a novel idea, promote the program.
"25 is coming"
ok, he came and you fricked that up. What now? its only gotten worse since
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:13 am to RidiculousHype
Agreed. Florida level success in basketball should be our floor, not our ceiling.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:18 am to RidiculousHype
Last 30 years of LSU basketball:
1 Final Four and 1 Sweet 16.
Only 6 NCAA tournament berths in the last 24 years.
1 NCAA tournament win in the last 11 years.
"Perennial Power" is not in the DNA of this program at the moment. No matter who is coaching next year, it will be an uphill climb to get relevant again.
1 Final Four and 1 Sweet 16.
Only 6 NCAA tournament berths in the last 24 years.
1 NCAA tournament win in the last 11 years.
"Perennial Power" is not in the DNA of this program at the moment. No matter who is coaching next year, it will be an uphill climb to get relevant again.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:32 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Agreed. Florida level success in basketball should be our floor, not our ceiling.
No doubt LSU should be consistently better than we've seen of late, but I'm not sure there are many programs that can expect Florida level success to be their floor. Over the last 18 years there have been 2 National Titles, 1 National Runner-Up finish, 4 Final Fours, 7 Elite Eights and so on.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:40 am to bgator85
just geeting back to where we are in the tourney every year, like when we made 14 consecutive tourneys between the 80's and 90's.
Then every 3-5 years making a run into the sweet 16.
I think its very doable, but the school has to decided to invest in the program.
Then every 3-5 years making a run into the sweet 16.
I think its very doable, but the school has to decided to invest in the program.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:13 am to RidiculousHype
Basketball is a little different today than it was 20 years ago. AAU really is the conerstone of recruiting now. Sone like to argue that it's actually hurting college basketball. The one and done has certainly put a damper on college basketball as well. Even though it's an NBA rule they are thinking about abandoning it.
Coach Cal gets it, he's been able to recruit AAU coaches to recruit top players while marketing THE ONE AND DONE RULE. Now they may not have many titles to back it up but it at least brings excitement and those guys can play.
Coach Cal gets it, he's been able to recruit AAU coaches to recruit top players while marketing THE ONE AND DONE RULE. Now they may not have many titles to back it up but it at least brings excitement and those guys can play.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:16 pm to RidiculousHype
Agree op..only one program in conference that is truly formidable. not asking to overtake UK, just be competitive...do that and the rest will take care of itself. SEC has always had a merry go round of teams rise up to challenge UK, none ever stick around. No reason LSU cant/shouldnt be the one to stick around.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:19 pm to RidiculousHype
LSU is not a basketball school.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:22 pm to RidiculousHype
We are definitely a sleeping giant. We are in a very similar situation to what was going on with LSU football in the 90s. I mean for fricks sake, John fricking Brady made a final four here with basically Baton Rouge players alone 
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:25 pm to LSUGrad9295
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"Perennial Power" is not in the DNA of this program at the moment.
Right. "At the moment". Because we have a clueless head coach.
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No matter who is coaching next year, it will be an uphill climb to get relevant again.
I just don't buy this. I see no reason we can't be a tournament team with 1 or 2 good recruiting classes and a good coaching hire. An exciting, consistently reasonably competitive program will absolutely bring in the fans.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:30 pm to LSUGrad9295
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Last 30 years of LSU basketball:
1 Final Four and 1 Sweet 16.
Only 6 NCAA tournament berths in the last 24 years.
1 NCAA tournament win in the last 11 years.
"Perennial Power" is not in the DNA of this program at the moment. No matter who is coaching next year, it will be an uphill climb to get relevant again.
But yet we are still #2 in SEC Basketball Championships. Think about that
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:58 pm to LSUGrad9295
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Last 30 years of LSU basketball:
1 Final Four and 1 Sweet 16.
Only 6 NCAA tournament berths in the last 24 years.
1 NCAA tournament win in the last 11 years.
"Perennial Power" is not in the DNA of this program at the moment. No matter who is coaching next year, it will be an uphill climb to get relevant again.
Not that I disagree, but LSU has struck out on hiring the right guy to become a perennial power. Partly because of circumstances. Partly because of the incompetence of the current AD.
When Brady was hired LSU was in the tough position of having to take who they could get. The Dale Brown sanctions hung over the program like a black cloud. No one wanted to come here. Still, when he could get and keep the talent, Brady had some really good years. The problem is had had almost as many bad years. The program was a roller coaster under him. Unfortunately, a roller coaster would be a welcome sight at this point.
On paper Trent Johnson looked good. He took Brady's players and immediately tore through the SEC in year one. If not for a screw-job on the seeding, that team is probably a Sweet 16 team (at minimum). After that season though, he let recruiting fall apart. It's hard to win games when you don't even fill out your roster. Johnson was just the wrong fit at the wrong place. His tenure is forgivable. The Jones one isn't. It's played out about how many expected. The recruiting experienced a significant uptick, but the coaching was/is awful. It essentially took him having multiple NBA-talent players just to finish 4 games over .500 in conf. play in relatively week conference over his first 4 seasons. There were teams with 0, or far less NBA talent who consistently beat Jones.
Last season was supposed to be the breakout year that the program was building towards. It ended in disaster. The end of LAST season was the time to make a change and stop the bleeding. The program wasn't in shambles, yet. Now, because of Alleva's complete inability to be proactive, it is.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:00 pm to Alt26
And keep in mind his recruiting is supposed to be his specialty. He has not done this well at all for the 17 and 18 recruiting classes thus far.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:05 pm to RidiculousHype
First target should be Wichita St coach, make him turn it down.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:08 pm to nicholastiger
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First target should be Wichita St coach, make him turn it down.
Why would he want to come here?
He would turn it down for the same reasons Fisher turned LSU down.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:16 pm to chinhoyang
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LSU is not a basketball school.
We weren't a baseball school, either, not that long ago.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 2:08 pm to bgator85
But with the exception of short period with Lon Kruger, Florida was nothing in basketball until Billy Donovan was hired.
The right hire is key, but the potential to be great has to be there. There is only so much the right coach can do at the wrong school. LSU and Florida both had the potential to be great with the right coach. Some schools do not.
The right hire is key, but the potential to be great has to be there. There is only so much the right coach can do at the wrong school. LSU and Florida both had the potential to be great with the right coach. Some schools do not.
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