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re: LSU QB Brandon Harris: Offense wasn't as conservative as it appeared
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:34 am to Hulkklogan
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:34 am to Hulkklogan
Well he has 2 more years to learn this if he wants an NFL future
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:34 am to DVinBR
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Well if they threaten to blitz he should be allowed to audible to align blockers, or play away from the blitz
No.. You gash them with the best RB in the nation
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:35 am to winston318
So 15 yards passing in a second half to a team that was thrashed by southern miss in the air means that ALL check downs to runs were aggressive play calling. Not buying this! 15 yards passing because passes were checked down to runs is almost like an army or navy run offense ! And if so why do we recruit great wide receivers in the first place. I bet every passing offense would laugh at this thought process . Or offense that is more balanced than LSU .
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 11:39 am
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:37 am to Choctaw
quote:I think the average fan can see a blitz. Also can recognize a run blitz when they see it.
they're sending a blitz that the average fan wouldn't know that they're sending
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:38 am to DVinBR
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Well he has 2 more years to learn this if he wants an NFL future
In other words, he has time.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:41 am to Choctaw
Well now all auburn has to do is send a blitz on one side and they'll know that the play will be a run to the other side. Great.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:43 am to LSUcc
As the season progresses., BH gets more experienced with reading the blitz on the fly, we'll call more pass plays.
It isn't as simple as throw a slant where the pressure comes from. You have to immediately decipher between man blitz and zone blitz. You have to figure out where the pressure is coming from and if anyone is dropping out. Is it cover 1, cover 2, cover 3, cover 6? Combo coverage.
The opposing defense still has to expect the play action pass anyway. Guys are going to be pinning their ears back on a blitz call either way it goes, so that's a null and void point.
It isn't as simple as throw a slant where the pressure comes from. You have to immediately decipher between man blitz and zone blitz. You have to figure out where the pressure is coming from and if anyone is dropping out. Is it cover 1, cover 2, cover 3, cover 6? Combo coverage.
The opposing defense still has to expect the play action pass anyway. Guys are going to be pinning their ears back on a blitz call either way it goes, so that's a null and void point.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:49 am to LSUcc
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While this may be true, the problem for me is if these checks to runs continue to happen, teams will figure out that LSU won't check to a pass. You have to eventually show to ability (or threat) to pass in these situations, even if it's just a quick slant or screen. That's the only way to back the pressure off. Otherwise teams will pin their ears back and play the run.
Please, please write a letter to the coaching staff telling them this. You might be the only person in the world that has thought of it.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:56 am to 7thWardTiger
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It isn't as simple as throw a slant where the pressure comes from. You have to immediately decipher between man blitz and zone blitz. You have to figure out where the pressure is coming from and if anyone is dropping out. Is it cover 1, cover 2, cover 3, cover 6? Combo coverage.
Easy way to know if it's man or zone blitz: put a WR/TE in motion.
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The opposing defense still has to expect the play action pass anyway. Guys are going to be pinning their ears back on a blitz call either way it goes, so that's a null and void point
That's the problem. They don't respect the play-action at this point. If the coaches/players know it's going to be a run no matter what, you're saying they won't play it more aggressively or have a different plan all together??
I mean, leak out a RB from the backfield. Yes, it's that easy.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:58 am to Gray Tiger
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Please, please write a letter to the coaching staff telling them this. You might be the only person in the world that has thought of it.
Is this a board for fans to discuss football or not? Damn.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:09 pm to X Carter Is Fast
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My favorite part of that quote is his use of the phase average fan. Unfortunately the average fans here believe they are top level play callers and talent evaluators
When former players call out coaching they get called idiots just quick as your "average fan"
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:09 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
quote:I am guessing that every SEC team has figured this out already.
Well now all auburn has to do is send a blitz on one side and they'll know that the play will be a run to the other side. Great.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:13 pm to winston318
The great QBs look at film of themselves and opponent . There has to be a WANT for this to happen. If not then all of this qb development is just patch work .
Could someone please tell me how the Ohio state qb checked off to passes and runs with very little game experience against Alabama
Could someone please tell me how the Ohio state qb checked off to passes and runs with very little game experience against Alabama
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:14 pm to LSUsmartass
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When former players call out coaching they get called idiots just quick as your "average fan"
Who?
When?
Quotes?
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:16 pm to Choctaw
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the average fan wouldn't know that they're sending
yep they are reading the rant at practice
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:27 pm to cartig
if they are blitzing, that doesnt mean hey lets run...sometimes that means throw to the vacated spot...
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:41 pm to Gray Tiger
I don't know anything about former players getting called idiots for criticism but I do know they have criticized the offense in the past. There have been a few in recent years, including Rueben Randle, PP7, and I think OBJ. Just saturday Randle Tweeted, "Every year its the same stuff" :( #LSUProblems
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:54 pm to BobBoucher
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This makes sense. Running in to a blitz may not move the chains, but it certainly wont lead to a turnover. Safe call.
And if Fournette gets 1 step past the line he is gone. Blitz means nobody on the second level is there to stop him.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:56 pm to Purplesx
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downs to runs were aggressive play calling. Not buying this!
Fine, now go lay down on the railroad tracks.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 1:16 pm to LSUcc
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If these checks to runs continue to happen
Jeez
Kid is starting only his second game. Didn't have best performance his first game and had to be relieved. Didn't get to play a warm-up game as scheduled.
You think it's possible that the coaches just wanted him to get through this game? Prove he can see the defensive scheme accurately while giving him a safe check that can't be baited into a serious mistake like a pick 6? If it shows on film he recognized the schemes correctly maybe they can increase his options as games go by?
We didn't get the warm up game he needed. Got to factor that in.
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