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re: LSU QB Brandon Harris: Offense wasn't as conservative as it appeared

Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:34 am to
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12964 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:34 am to
Well he has 2 more years to learn this if he wants an NFL future
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10191 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:34 am to
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Well if they threaten to blitz he should be allowed to audible to align blockers, or play away from the blitz


No.. You gash them with the best RB in the nation
Posted by Purplesx
Member since Aug 2015
255 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:35 am to
So 15 yards passing in a second half to a team that was thrashed by southern miss in the air means that ALL check downs to runs were aggressive play calling. Not buying this! 15 yards passing because passes were checked down to runs is almost like an army or navy run offense ! And if so why do we recruit great wide receivers in the first place. I bet every passing offense would laugh at this thought process . Or offense that is more balanced than LSU .
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 11:39 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35372 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:37 am to
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they're sending a blitz that the average fan wouldn't know that they're sending
I think the average fan can see a blitz. Also can recognize a run blitz when they see it.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43296 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:38 am to
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Well he has 2 more years to learn this if he wants an NFL future



In other words, he has time.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23295 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:41 am to
Well now all auburn has to do is send a blitz on one side and they'll know that the play will be a run to the other side. Great.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:43 am to
As the season progresses., BH gets more experienced with reading the blitz on the fly, we'll call more pass plays.

It isn't as simple as throw a slant where the pressure comes from. You have to immediately decipher between man blitz and zone blitz. You have to figure out where the pressure is coming from and if anyone is dropping out. Is it cover 1, cover 2, cover 3, cover 6? Combo coverage.

The opposing defense still has to expect the play action pass anyway. Guys are going to be pinning their ears back on a blitz call either way it goes, so that's a null and void point.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:49 am to
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While this may be true, the problem for me is if these checks to runs continue to happen, teams will figure out that LSU won't check to a pass. You have to eventually show to ability (or threat) to pass in these situations, even if it's just a quick slant or screen. That's the only way to back the pressure off. Otherwise teams will pin their ears back and play the run.



Please, please write a letter to the coaching staff telling them this. You might be the only person in the world that has thought of it.
Posted by LSUcc
St. Louis, MO
Member since Feb 2009
2057 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:56 am to
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It isn't as simple as throw a slant where the pressure comes from. You have to immediately decipher between man blitz and zone blitz. You have to figure out where the pressure is coming from and if anyone is dropping out. Is it cover 1, cover 2, cover 3, cover 6? Combo coverage.


Easy way to know if it's man or zone blitz: put a WR/TE in motion.

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The opposing defense still has to expect the play action pass anyway. Guys are going to be pinning their ears back on a blitz call either way it goes, so that's a null and void point


That's the problem. They don't respect the play-action at this point. If the coaches/players know it's going to be a run no matter what, you're saying they won't play it more aggressively or have a different plan all together??

I mean, leak out a RB from the backfield. Yes, it's that easy.
Posted by LSUcc
St. Louis, MO
Member since Feb 2009
2057 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:58 am to
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Please, please write a letter to the coaching staff telling them this. You might be the only person in the world that has thought of it.


Is this a board for fans to discuss football or not? Damn.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82362 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:09 pm to
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My favorite part of that quote is his use of the phase average fan. Unfortunately the average fans here believe they are top level play callers and talent evaluators

When former players call out coaching they get called idiots just quick as your "average fan"
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35372 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:09 pm to
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Well now all auburn has to do is send a blitz on one side and they'll know that the play will be a run to the other side. Great.
I am guessing that every SEC team has figured this out already.
Posted by Purplesx
Member since Aug 2015
255 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:13 pm to
The great QBs look at film of themselves and opponent . There has to be a WANT for this to happen. If not then all of this qb development is just patch work .
Could someone please tell me how the Ohio state qb checked off to passes and runs with very little game experience against Alabama
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:14 pm to
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When former players call out coaching they get called idiots just quick as your "average fan"




Who?
When?
Quotes?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:16 pm to
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the average fan wouldn't know that they're sending


yep they are reading the rant at practice
Posted by GonadBallbarion
st augustine, fl.
Member since Aug 2015
1168 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:27 pm to
if they are blitzing, that doesnt mean hey lets run...sometimes that means throw to the vacated spot...
Posted by keeper05
BR
Member since Feb 2007
379 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:41 pm to
I don't know anything about former players getting called idiots for criticism but I do know they have criticized the offense in the past. There have been a few in recent years, including Rueben Randle, PP7, and I think OBJ. Just saturday Randle Tweeted, "Every year its the same stuff" :( #LSUProblems
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:54 pm to
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This makes sense. Running in to a blitz may not move the chains, but it certainly wont lead to a turnover. Safe call.


And if Fournette gets 1 step past the line he is gone. Blitz means nobody on the second level is there to stop him.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:56 pm to
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downs to runs were aggressive play calling. Not buying this!


Fine, now go lay down on the railroad tracks.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
761 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 1:16 pm to
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If these checks to runs continue to happen


Jeez

Kid is starting only his second game. Didn't have best performance his first game and had to be relieved. Didn't get to play a warm-up game as scheduled.

You think it's possible that the coaches just wanted him to get through this game? Prove he can see the defensive scheme accurately while giving him a safe check that can't be baited into a serious mistake like a pick 6? If it shows on film he recognized the schemes correctly maybe they can increase his options as games go by?

We didn't get the warm up game he needed. Got to factor that in.
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