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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:56 am to CatfishJohn
Rumblings from my friends who work on campus say Tate will be offered the job tomorrow
Apparently the BoS has an unplanned meeting tomorrow
Apparently the BoS has an unplanned meeting tomorrow
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:05 am to Draconian Sanctions
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For the record I looked up Tate’s twitter and he looks like a pretty big sports fan, went to every USCe game home or away
I don’t know that we should be dismissing the idea of someone out of hand just because of their politics.
But we should in hand rule the guy in because he likes to go to football games?
The guys politics are a lot bigger deal to his position than liking to go to football games
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:17 am to Tigeralum2008
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Rumblings from my friends who work on campus say Tate will be offered the job tomorrow
Apparently the BoS has an unplanned meeting tomorrow
fricking unbelievable.
What pieces of shite JBE and James Williams are.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:57 am to Tigeralum2008
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Apparently the BoS has an unplanned meeting tomorrow
The meeting has always been planned on the schedule of events, with the Zoom link shared.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:01 am to Draconian Sanctions
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don’t know that we should be dismissing the idea of someone out of hand just because of their politics.
His political stances controls his academic stances. He believes math is racist. That is a hard disqualifier for anyone in academics.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:53 am to LSUGrrrl
Like I said previously...
He was always their guy, especially when his name was absent from the original candidate list, only to show up in the narrowed down list of 8.
He was always their guy, especially when his name was absent from the original candidate list, only to show up in the narrowed down list of 8.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 12:04 pm to Sissidog02
There are no good choices on this list.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 1:27 pm to LSUAlum2001
I’ve put on a lot of these zoom calls in the background, Henderson was impressive and tbh so is Tate. Henderson is savvy and you can tell he has a lot of experience running systems.
With Tate there hasn’t been much conservation about the “woke” topics y’all are concerned about. Mostly just questions about structural parts of the university like it’s research functions and he comes off as very smart. Very detailed and well researched answers. The one question about sexual harassment he basically said if it’s legit harassment we’ll deal with it, if it’s just that the professor isn’t nice to you then that’s another discussion but we’ll try to move students to different sections if we can. Haven’t heard race come up at all.
With Tate there hasn’t been much conservation about the “woke” topics y’all are concerned about. Mostly just questions about structural parts of the university like it’s research functions and he comes off as very smart. Very detailed and well researched answers. The one question about sexual harassment he basically said if it’s legit harassment we’ll deal with it, if it’s just that the professor isn’t nice to you then that’s another discussion but we’ll try to move students to different sections if we can. Haven’t heard race come up at all.
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 1:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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With Tate there hasn’t been much conservation about the “woke” topics y’all are concerned about. Mostly just questions about structural parts of the university like it’s research functions and he comes off as very smart. Very detailed and well researched answers. The one question about sexual harassment he basically said if it’s legit harassment we’ll deal with it, if it’s just that the professor isn’t nice to you then that’s another discussion but we’ll try to move students to different sections if we can. Haven’t heard race come up at all.
So the board doesn’t want to ask questions in a public forum that they’re probably very aware would lead to answers that would enrage a significant portion of the university, and you think this is commendable?
A substantial part of Tate’s research is dedicated to topics related to critical race theory. Your insistence on trying to preclude that from being considered when evaluating him as a candidate is really weird, but not surprising.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:06 pm to Open Your Eyes
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So the board
Students and faculty, not the board.
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Your insistence on trying to preclude that from being considered when evaluating him as a candidate is really weird, but not surprising.
I don’t like jumping to conclusions about people. Unlike most of you I’m actually listening to what the guy has to say instead of judging him solely on how I feel about his political opinions
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:22 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I don’t like jumping to conclusions about people. Unlike most of you I’m actually listening to what the guy has to say instead of judging him solely on how I feel about his political opinions
Who is jumping to conclusions? People are forming opinion based on his body of research and publications, which seems like a much more real way to judge someone than an interview he knows is being broadcast. Think of it this way....as an employer you have a candidate who for an hour is excellent in an interview...personable, says what you want to hear, has researched your company and looks like a winner. The you check references to find out the guy has been a cancer to ever company he's worked at, has a pending HR issue at his current job (Tate is currently under fire for title 9 crap at USC) and everything his reference say point to him being a bad fit for your company....are you hiring him?
I'm in charge of hiring and I listen to what people have to say, but their past speaks more to me than what they are telling me in an interview.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:32 pm to scott8811
He may be a good choice, he may be a bad one, the issue I have is with this culture we have now where anyone who is on the other political sports team is “problematic” and dismissed out of hand based on that. And yes it’s a big problem on the left as well.
What he’s researched in his career may or may not influence him and generally may or may not even be all that relevant when looking at the actual job or running a complex university system.
What he’s researched in his career may or may not influence him and generally may or may not even be all that relevant when looking at the actual job or running a complex university system.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:35 pm to red sox fan 13
Everyone that loves LSU needs to fill this out. Henderson would be my go to. Tate is a disaster, and likely the front runner since our state is turning to shite.
Take a minute and fill this out.
Take a minute and fill this out.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I have is with this culture we have now where anyone who is on the other political sports team is “problematic” and dismissed out of hand based on that.
I totally agree with you here, but.....
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What he’s researched in his career may or may not influence him and generally may or may not even be all that relevant when looking at the actual job or running a complex university system
In this case I think it absolutely will influence this job. The biggest issue myself and a lot of alumni have with the the job Alexander did is the shift to "holistic" admissions for the expressed purpose of aiding minorities. Many of us strongly feel admission to the university should be strictly merit based. I could care less what political team this guy bats for, but you can't tell me from looking at his research that he won't be an extension of F. King. Many were hoping for a change in direction, and that is clearly not what we're getting.
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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What he’s researched in his career may or may not influence him and generally may or may not even be all that relevant when looking at the actual job or running a complex university system.
This. An academic's research interests tell little to nothing about their governance strategies and capabilities to run a multi-institutional, statewide higher education and research system which is why this whole interview process has not focused on that. If his publication record was on quantum physics or some other topic this board didn't deem controversial and his answers during his interviews were word-for-word the exact same, many of you setting your hair on fire over him being a finalist would be perfectly fine with his credentials and candidacy for this position.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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What he’s researched in his career may or may not influence him
What an idiotic statement. If you thought the decline was shocking under Alexander, wait until you see what Tate and his sociology background have in store for an already floundering and failing LSU.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:56 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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What an idiotic statement. If you thought the decline was shocking under Alexander, wait until you see what Tate and his sociology background have in store for an already floundering and failing LSU.
But none of it will be covered in the media. It will be topics like "LSU welcomes most diverse class in history" and "LSU students finally feel safe" while academic, journalistic, and overall integrity and success decline.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:01 pm to The Melt
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safe" while academic, journalistic, and overall integrity and success decline.
LSU is in a race to the bottom with the entire state.
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