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re: LSU plays everybody close excuse..

Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:21 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebayou
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Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:21 pm to
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Have you given any thought to the possibility that Ole Miss and Arky played above their heads because it is LSU?


Of course its possible. But I find it hard to believe a team would only choose to play above their heads cause its lsu when there were many more meaningful games for each on the schedule....also in both games there were points in the game when lsu had the chance to really put the game away and distance themselves and didn't do it. And it routinely happens.
Posted by lsuexpert57
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:23 pm to
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I've been trying to hammer this into to these morons heads all night, but trying to explain things to retards can be hard


Hammer away negatard, give me the games in the last 3 years that LSU "played down to the competition and it cost them championships". Be careful, I'm getting ready to show you how ignorant you are.
This post was edited on 11/23/12 at 10:24 pm
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5014 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:27 pm to
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Lsu always plays auburn close, always plays ole miss close, always plays arky close...but why?


We beat the shite out of all 3 of them last year.
Posted by tigerinthebayou
Member since Oct 2009
1770 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:29 pm to
Just looking at class rankings doesn't tell the story. It takes time to develop talent and get talent in place at most every position. Saban was building lsu into a power but he didn't inherit a powerhouse when he came. By 2003 you saw his recruiting pay dividends...miles inherited a powerhouse when he came in. And he kept it on par recruiting wise I would say but hasn't developed the talent and/or coached it to its full potential necessarily.
Posted by Methuselah
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:32 pm to
Whether two teams always play each other close is not an excuse. It's a statement of alleged fact which is either true or not.
Posted by bastropbham
Birmingham, Al
Member since Nov 2008
604 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:32 pm to
Count all the close games then tally those we won. With rare exception, it will these Tigers.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:32 pm to
so what you're saying is Saban wouldn't be doing better than Miles if he were at LSU now. Meaning its something deeper than the head coach that separates the two programs. Meaning...LSU really is in its proper place as second best in the west behind Bama?

I guess what negatigers are wondering is why? LSU has no instate recruiting rival. Louisiana and east Texas has ample talent and. Why can't LSU consistently pound underdog teams like Bama does? I get the issues earlier this season with injuries etc but that doesn't explain these last few ugly games or the many examples from previous years where LSU seemingly underperformed on offense.
Posted by tigerinthebayou
Member since Oct 2009
1770 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:33 pm to
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We beat the shite out of all 3 of them last year.


Exactly. So why is it said that the games were only close cause traditionally they are regardless of how good or bad of a season each team is having....traditionally bama auburn is close but its not gonna be tom because one team is far superior to the other.
Posted by lsuexpert57
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Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:37 pm to
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Exactly. So why is it said that the games were only close cause traditionally they are regardless of how good or bad of a season each team is having....traditionally bama auburn is close but its not gonna be tom because one team is far superior to the other.


I don't get it. What the frick kind of stupid negative point are you trying to make?
Posted by lsuexpert57
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Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:38 pm to
I already shut all the other stupid nega's up, might as well finish you off too.
Posted by tigerinthebayou
Member since Oct 2009
1770 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:40 pm to
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Count all the close games then tally those we won. With rare

exception, it will theseTigers.


You're 100% correct. And that's cause lsu usually has the better team which more often than not the better team will win...but when u continually keep games close against lesser teams eventually u lose some....in 07 it very nearly cost us except for monumental upsets the last weekend...this seasons Florida game is another example. Anyone thinking Florida is a better team than lsu obviously hasn't watched them play.
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
2931 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:40 pm to
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Hammer away negatard, give me the games in the last 3 years that LSU "played down to the competition and it cost them championships". Be careful, I'm getting ready to show you how ignorant you are.


None in the last 3 years. And I didn't say that there were, I said that it's a problem if you make a habit out of letting inferior teams stay in the game because it gives them chances to win the game and it can eventually cost you chances at championships. People keep saying that close games are fun and not a big deal and I'm saying that they are because if you end up losing the game it can cost you a chance at conference and national titles
Posted by lsuexpert57
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Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:48 pm to
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I guess what negatigers are wondering is why? LSU has no instate recruiting rival. Louisiana and east Texas has ample talent and. Why can't LSU consistently pound underdog teams like Bama does? I get the issues earlier this season with injuries etc but that doesn't explain these last few ugly games or the many examples from previous years where LSU seemingly underperformed on offense.


You seem like a nice nega guy so I'll try to be gentle with you.

Ok I get it, we watch Bama on TV and they seem to roll through the bad teams with relative ease. So how come LSU can't do the same thing?

I don't see that there is some all inclusive answer to that question...but at the end of the day, does it really matter? Or does it matter more how many games you don't lose?

LSU is as good at "not losing" as any other team in CFB. Yeah Bama has been a bit better the last few years but not by much...and by any measure no team but us consistently goes toe to toe with Bama. Only LSU really has a true chance to be on par with Bama.

Fortune has shined on them the last few years, and they have a much easier schedule than us every year, but despite this, they still have to get by us every year to reach their goals and we are by FAR their biggest obstacle.

I fully expect for fortune to change for the next few years and we will be slightly better than them. If this does not come to pass then we will have to settle for 2nd best program out of 120 teams...what a fricking nightmare!!!!
Posted by tigerinthebayou
Member since Oct 2009
1770 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:49 pm to
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I already shut all the other stupid nega's up, might as well finish you off too.


You haven't finished anyone off you stupid frick...ppl just get tired of trying to talk sense into miles dickriders...point is lsu plays down to the quality of the opponent way too often and has to play close games against teams they should easily handle. This always happens to every team at some point but lsu its week in and week out save last year. Yeah they win most but you're walking a fine line and it will and has resulted in losses that shouldn't have been imo. Maybe you feel lsu should have lost every game that they have during miles tenure. I don't.
Posted by lsuexpert57
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:52 pm to
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None in the last 3 years. And I didn't say that there were, I said that it's a problem if you make a habit out of letting inferior teams stay in the game because it gives them chances to win the game and it can eventually cost you chances at championships. People keep saying that close games are fun and not a big deal and I'm saying that they are because if you end up losing the game it can cost you a chance at conference and national titles


8 years of evidence shows you that this "habit" poses no problem. How much more empirical evidence do you need from CLM before you just relax and enjoy the ride? You got 8 years of games to pick from and you will be hard pressed to find more than a handful of games that fit your description and support your point.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:55 pm to
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ppl just get tired of trying to talk sense into miles dickriders...

You mad, huh?
Posted by tigerinthebayou
Member since Oct 2009
1770 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:56 pm to
Exactly..its not so much about games they have lost recently as games that they walked way too thin a line and eventually it will catch up to u and cost a shot at a championship. Close games when a big underdog hangs around is great for tv and for the fan with no rooting interest. I always pull for the underdog. But as an lsu fan I would prefer they come out and establish their dominance on lesser teams quickly and make for miserable tv. Save the great games for the top teams like bama and usce this year.
Posted by lsuexpert57
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Member since Oct 2008
1604 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:56 pm to
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You haven't finished anyone off you stupid frick.


Oh you're finished all right, you're just too dumb to know it. You keep saying this big "problem" of ours is going to cost us. When has it? Does LSU lose more games against "inferior teams" than other teams do?

Go ahead, list the teams that are better at beating the BAD teams than LSU.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76196 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:57 pm to
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I fully expect for fortune to change for the next few years and we will be slightly better than them. If this does not come to pass then we will have to settle for 2nd best program out of 120 teams...what a fricking nightmare!!!!

It's not a nightmare, but it does relegate us to Peach Bowls.


Thanks for being gentle. I'm not negative on this team. I think 10 wins was good year. And I like Miles. I just like to look for the reasons as to why LSU isn't even better. It's something to write about on a football message board. If everyone wrote the same fawning posts then this would be a boring site.
Posted by bastropbham
Birmingham, Al
Member since Nov 2008
604 posts
Posted on 11/23/12 at 10:58 pm to
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LSU is as good at "not losing" as any other team in CFB. Yeah Bama has been a bit better the last few years but not by much...and by any measure no team but us consistently goes toe to toe with Bama. Only LSU really has a true chance to be on par with Bama.


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