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re: LSU Basketball Tonight and Fan Reaction
Posted on 1/17/16 at 8:44 am to LSUButt
Posted on 1/17/16 at 8:44 am to LSUButt
Excellent post.
Gray finally is living up to your predictions. He is very talented and has become a difference maker for the positive.
Anyone who would criticize any LSU player since SEC competition started should have their posts stamped with an asterisk so they can easitly be ignored.
It seemed that every player contirbuted.
Victor showed why he was highly recruited. Sure glad he is a Tiger. What a worker.
Gray finally is living up to your predictions. He is very talented and has become a difference maker for the positive.
Anyone who would criticize any LSU player since SEC competition started should have their posts stamped with an asterisk so they can easitly be ignored.
It seemed that every player contirbuted.
Victor showed why he was highly recruited. Sure glad he is a Tiger. What a worker.
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Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:03 am to roygu
Me and Josh rode hard together last year 
He still has his moments of wtf, but he's showing this year when given minutes he can produce
He still has his moments of wtf, but he's showing this year when given minutes he can produce
Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:23 am to drizztiger
quote:at no point last season was lsu a "lock."
These are the same folks last year that said LSU would be lucky to make the NIT and wouldn't listen at all that LSU was an NCAAT lock
quote:you make it sound like a 9 seed is pimpin. you might not realize this but, that's squeaking in. LOTS of people were disappointed with that low of a seed especially given that the 10-12 seeds are mostly aq's from crap conferences.
When LSU got a 9 seed
Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:24 am to LSUButt
quote:
Why can't LSU fans be happy we won?
I get your point Butt, it's just that for me anyway I hate to see the team make it so hard on themselves as Victor said himself post game.
I do think the effort was there for 40 minutes, which is a step in the right direction because that's been the exception more than the rule this year.
But the effort was at times thwarted by lack of focus and discipline. We'd play these great defensive sets where we played the screens well and helped and rotated, then the next time down let a guy take it right to the goal, no help or rotation.
Ben's sloppiness with the ball was surprising to me, but Arkansas has the length and athleticism to do that.
Let's just keep up the effort part and work on the focus and sense of purpose. As John Wooden used to say, don't confuse activity with achievement.
It'a alright to be happy to win, and I am. But if you are so happy that you neglect the things you need to fix, that's a recipe for a letdown. I think we've seen that some in football after some fast starts.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:25 am to bfniii
You just don't give up with ur doomsday scenario's do you 
Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:58 am to LSUButt
Good post...
I get tired of CJJ getting way too much unfounded criticism on this board...
People saying we win on talent alone, don't run a set offense etc. just demonstrates some fans ignorance...
This team is playing good defense, is a great rebounding team and newsflash, clearing the floor to allow your 6'10" unstoppable freshman create is not a playground offense.
We do not maintain our intensity level all game, we are poor at FTs and we can get careless when trying to be up tempo...but those issues do not make CJJ a bad coach...
I get tired of CJJ getting way too much unfounded criticism on this board...
People saying we win on talent alone, don't run a set offense etc. just demonstrates some fans ignorance...
This team is playing good defense, is a great rebounding team and newsflash, clearing the floor to allow your 6'10" unstoppable freshman create is not a playground offense.
We do not maintain our intensity level all game, we are poor at FTs and we can get careless when trying to be up tempo...but those issues do not make CJJ a bad coach...
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:16 am to LSUButt
quote:
-Why can't LSU fans be happy we won?
Nobody loves to shite on their own like LSU fans.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:17 am to bfniii
Cmon breh 10-12 aren't aqs...
Indiana UCLA Texas ole Miss Georgia Davidson okla state Purdue st johns Dayton and Ohio state all were around the 9-11 seed. We were selected ahead of them. 9 seeds aren't bubble teams.
Indiana UCLA Texas ole Miss Georgia Davidson okla state Purdue st johns Dayton and Ohio state all were around the 9-11 seed. We were selected ahead of them. 9 seeds aren't bubble teams.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:18 am to thekid
quote:
clearing the floor to allow your 6'10" unstoppable freshman create is not a playground offense.
This x1000.
LSU fans have a very low basketball IQ. We run a lot of isolation and pick and roll. If LSU fans don't see the Princeton offense being run out there then they bash the coach for not running an offense at all.
Side note,I was at the alumni event before the game and Johnny gave a speech that gave me chills. He talked about what LSU stands for past and current basketball players, Love, Sacrifice, and Unity. Johnny may have his flaws, but his passion for the university is unbelievable. The team has improved as the season has gone on and that is a credit to the coach.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:21 am to LSUButt
Legit basketball posts are elusive on this shite show of a website. Nice work
I agree with the crowd. Its always that way. We csn fill it up and make less nice than a 1000 seat gym
I agree with the crowd. Its always that way. We csn fill it up and make less nice than a 1000 seat gym
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:36 am to Tiger Ugly
quote:
It'a alright to be happy to win, and I am
It doesn't read like it.
quote:
But if you are so happy that you neglect the things you need to fix,
So what are all of you Debbie Downers going to do personally to "fix" things?
quote:
that's a recipe for a letdown. I think we've seen that some in football after some fast starts.
Your position is that one must never enjoy the moment because there might be some future disappointment?
Nothing personal sir, but that seems to be a pretty crappy way to live.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:43 am to Gray Tiger
I just went and looked this up in the media guide.
Johnny Jones has won 63.4% of his games at LSU. That means he has the best winning percentage of any LSU basketball coach, not counting one intern coach who only coached 6 games in 1945, since Tad Gormley was coaching LSU Basketball in 19fricking23. Anybody who thinks Johnny needs to be fired can GFY.
Johnny Jones has won 63.4% of his games at LSU. That means he has the best winning percentage of any LSU basketball coach, not counting one intern coach who only coached 6 games in 1945, since Tad Gormley was coaching LSU Basketball in 19fricking23. Anybody who thinks Johnny needs to be fired can GFY.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:51 am to Pnels08
You apparently have no clue how NCAA tourney works and just assume 9 seeds aren't bubble teams bc they aren't 16 seeds.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:52 am to camplsu
We have improved every year since he's been here. These people want it all now. Like I've said before, the only way for them to be happy is to not lose another game this year, win the national championship, then fire the coach.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:55 am to TommyDaTiger
LSU Tigers (Southeastern Conference) (2012–present)
2012–13 LSU 19–12 9–9 T–8th
2013–14 LSU 20–14 9–9 T–6th NIT Second Round
2014–15 LSU 22–11 11–7 T–3rd NCAA First Round
2015–16 LSU 11-6. 4-1. 2nd
LSU: 61–37 (.622) 29–25 (.537)
Total: 266–199 (.572)
This is for the factoid people BFNIII to be exact. Just the facts bro, just the facts
2012–13 LSU 19–12 9–9 T–8th
2013–14 LSU 20–14 9–9 T–6th NIT Second Round
2014–15 LSU 22–11 11–7 T–3rd NCAA First Round
2015–16 LSU 11-6. 4-1. 2nd
LSU: 61–37 (.622) 29–25 (.537)
Total: 266–199 (.572)
This is for the factoid people BFNIII to be exact. Just the facts bro, just the facts
This post was edited on 1/17/16 at 10:57 am
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:58 am to LSU1SLU
Well 16 seeds aren't bubble teams they are aqs.... Which would show you don't have much knowledge of the situation.
Also I guess it's perspective as well. I see bubble teams as next 4 out first 4 out and last 4 in. Lsu was in neither of those categories by selection time.
Also I guess it's perspective as well. I see bubble teams as next 4 out first 4 out and last 4 in. Lsu was in neither of those categories by selection time.
This post was edited on 1/17/16 at 11:00 am
Posted on 1/17/16 at 11:21 am to LSU1SLU
quote:
You apparently have no clue how NCAA tourney works and just assume 9 seeds aren't bubble teams bc they aren't 16 seeds.
Well Mr. SLU, you are actually the one that doesn't know how the NCAA tournament works. The bubble teams are the ones that play in the play in games now. Those games are between 11 seed and 12 seeds. 9 seeds are NOT bubble teams.
LSU fans last year were the only ones that thought LSU was a bubble team. LSU was not. It was a typical reaction by LSU fans and it further makes LSUButt's point about this thread.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 11:25 am to TommyDaTiger
Your overall record stats don't include this year's results. Don't short my boy CJJ. His overall record is now 72-43.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 11:51 am to Gray Tiger
quote:
It doesn't read like it.
I was cheering as much as anyone at the game, and at the end, I can assure you. But there is still some frustration in that I know this team can do better.
quote:
So what are all of you Debbie Downers going to do personally to "fix" things?
That's out of my control and not my responsibility. I'll just continue to go to games and cheer and hope our staff and players can fix these things. But I see absolutely no problem with giving an opinion that's not all rainbows and sunshine, even after a win.
quote:
Your position is that one must never enjoy the moment because there might be some future disappointment? Nothing personal sir, but that seems to be a pretty crappy way to live.
I actually think one can enjoy the moment, in this case an ugly win, and still want and hope for a team capable to be better. For me it's not building a wall against disappointment, it's wanting this team and program I really love to achieve to their capability.
Giving effort for 40 minutes is a start. Victor playing balls out and exceeding my expectations for him is a plus. Gray stepping up, very nice to see. Patterson playing 32 strong minutes...love that.
Those things make me happy.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 12:23 pm to Tiger Ugly
Every single team has flaws, that's what people don't realize. So many people said Victor would suck because he didn't play at Arizoba. Same people also ignore the fact that Victor and Hirnsby missed half the season, and another key player in Petterson missed 5 games. When LSU plays straight man to man defense, they are actually a very good team. Problem is, we outthink ourselves and switch to zone to throw people off. We ran zone 3 straight possessions and they got 8 points on 3/4 shooting. So that was just dumb, but everything is about learning.
Ben had a terrible behind the back dribble that Kinglsey stole, but his other turnovers were him being aggressive and trying to make something happen. I will never ever ever get mad at a guy, no matter who it is, for turning the ball over when trying to penetrate. In the heat of the moment, everybody gets upset and wants things to go perfect. That's just not reality though.
We shite on our offensive sets, shite on our defensive sets, shite on our best player. Yet we have a top 50 scoring offense, shot nearly 50% last night, got players in foul trouble, held a top scoring team to under their average, a team that shot 52% from 3 in sec play shot only 41% last night, and our best player had 16 points and 18 rebounds during a week in which he was sick and considered himself to have a bad game.
No one has said we are perfect and don't need to fix anything. We missed FT's last night, but over the last few weeks our FT's have been great. College basketball and LSU don't exist in a vacuum. It's not "If LSU doesn't do this they have no chance." Oklahoma honestly looks like the best team in the country, and they don't have an interior post presence really. Every single team has flaws. It's about getting hot at the right time and gelling. Despite some sloppiness, we are 4-1 in our new season and set for a highly ranked road game on Tuesday.
Ben had a terrible behind the back dribble that Kinglsey stole, but his other turnovers were him being aggressive and trying to make something happen. I will never ever ever get mad at a guy, no matter who it is, for turning the ball over when trying to penetrate. In the heat of the moment, everybody gets upset and wants things to go perfect. That's just not reality though.
We shite on our offensive sets, shite on our defensive sets, shite on our best player. Yet we have a top 50 scoring offense, shot nearly 50% last night, got players in foul trouble, held a top scoring team to under their average, a team that shot 52% from 3 in sec play shot only 41% last night, and our best player had 16 points and 18 rebounds during a week in which he was sick and considered himself to have a bad game.
No one has said we are perfect and don't need to fix anything. We missed FT's last night, but over the last few weeks our FT's have been great. College basketball and LSU don't exist in a vacuum. It's not "If LSU doesn't do this they have no chance." Oklahoma honestly looks like the best team in the country, and they don't have an interior post presence really. Every single team has flaws. It's about getting hot at the right time and gelling. Despite some sloppiness, we are 4-1 in our new season and set for a highly ranked road game on Tuesday.
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