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re: LSU Baseball Signing Deadline less than 3 hours - 11pm/C!!!!!!
Posted on 8/15/11 at 3:32 pm to josh336
Posted on 8/15/11 at 3:32 pm to josh336
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what if that offer never showed up?
Then he would have stayed at LSU. But he probably was doing some back room negotiating and telling them that he was coming to LSU.
No one but Zach Lee will ever know the truth of what happened with that.
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Posted on 8/15/11 at 3:36 pm to tadelatt
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No one but Zach Lee will ever know the truth of what happened with that.
sounded like tadelatt assumed he knew.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 3:37 pm to LsuTool
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According to your way of thinking, every kid that signs with LSU but leaves for the MLB draft is a douche and only used LSU for leverage.
You see how dumb that is?
No. I simply said Zach Lee did this to gain leverage over a higher contract. He did everything from having a rep that he was a hard sign to enrolling in school.
Do you think LA was going to give him 5 million bucks if he was all "ants in the pants" ready to sign from day 1? No. He was working the system to his advantage and playing the University in the mean time.
Players that get drafted and chose MLB over LSU hardly ever do it the way Zach Lee did. It was a douche way to do it and I am sorry if anyone disagrees with me but I can not remember another kid making such a big deal over coming to school, enrolling in classes, etc... and then signing for a large amount like he did. He used us. FACT!
This post was edited on 8/15/11 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 8/15/11 at 3:39 pm to dj30
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sounded like tadelatt assumed he knew.
I am stating my opinion on the matter. I am saying what I beleive happened and regardless of what side people chose to be on for this discussion, it will not change the fact that both sides are arguing their own opinions on the situation.
Zach Lee knows what he was doing but I am saying that I THINK he was doing it for the reason I stated above.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 3:41 pm to moneyg
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You are upset because he left...not because he used LSU. That is just your rationalization to ease your disappointment.
Both Miles and Mainieri understood what was going on. You did not.
Now you are telling me what I am thinking. I am not upset that he did not come to LSU. I was there for every home game last season and loved our starting pitching.
I am just giving my opinion on Zach Lee and how it went down. It is my opinion on how it happened.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 3:58 pm to LsuTool
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So basically, if they offered him 3 Million he would have said, no thanks, I'm a tiger. That sound like a douche to you?
Actually, it does. But not for the reasons you're thinking. In fact, quite the opposite.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 4:03 pm to tadelatt
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Now you are telling me what I am thinking.
Well isn't that exactly what you are doing with Zach Lee???
Posted on 8/15/11 at 4:07 pm to josh336
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That has really gotten to me ever since they filed for bankruptcy. They overpaid out the arse for a pitcher before filing for bankruptcy, how unlucky could lsu be?
right there with you man. everyone said they didn't have the money to even pay him slot and then pay him way over, and they were right. they didn't have the money and spent it anyways.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 4:10 pm to dj30
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Also you dont know if Gausmann turning down whatever he turned down, allowed the Dodgers to increase their offer at the last minute.
that's a really good point. i never even thought about that before. could be true
Posted on 8/15/11 at 4:14 pm to tadelatt
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I am stating my opinion on the matter. I am saying what I beleive happened and regardless of what side people chose to be on for this discussion, it will not change the fact that both sides are arguing their own opinions on the situation.
Zach Lee knows what he was doing but I am saying that I THINK he was doing it for the reason I stated above.
First of all, HS players using college as leverage is just the way the system is. Deal with it. What are they supposed to do? Not enroll and sit around until next June? There isn't a fall league for them to continue to hone their skills for the next draft. Lee also used it to his advantage that he had football at at top 10 program as leverage. Deal with it. You have absolutely no idea what Zach Lee was thinking or if he ever intended to stay at LSU. He may have had a price in mind of what it was worth to pass up the opportunity to be a 2 sport athlete at LSU but the fact of the matter is that he had no control of where he was selected or by what team and he put himself in the best position if that price wasn't met. As it turns out he got drafted #28 and got top-3 money because he had options....whether you think he intended to explore them or not. Before Ranaudo went to the Cape League last summer, The Red Sox had leverage because his stock had plummeted because of a mid-season arm injury. But he got top 10 money from the 39 slot from the leverage he got with a few great starts in the Cape league.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 4:14 pm to tadelatt
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but I can not remember another kid making such a big deal over coming to school, enrolling in classes, etc... and then signing for a large amount like he did.
Ole Miss has a freshman quarterback doing exactly that. been practicing with the football team and signed today. believe his name is Orson. the reason it doesn't happen very often is it is very often you have a big time football player (believe lee was a 4 star) signed to a big time school, and possibly be in position to start soon, and then get drafted as high as lee did. it's just an example of a very gifted athlete with options.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 4:17 pm to lsufball19
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practicing with the football team and signed today.
he signed?
Posted on 8/15/11 at 4:24 pm to LsuTool
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he signed?
well that's what kendall rogers and college baseball daily have been saying all day. said he's in boston and expected to sign. i don't think it's been confirmed if he's actually signed but everyone is saying it's gonna happen from what i gather
Posted on 8/15/11 at 4:49 pm to josh336
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ZVR is more of an example of someone who used LSU IMO
Agree 100%
Posted on 8/15/11 at 4:52 pm to tadelatt
No problem with what he (or ZvR) did, stated his (outrageous) price, came to school early, and went to class & worked hard. The coaches were fully informed.
My, and probably most peoples problem is with the likes of Cechini (sp), who clearly DID use LSU for leverage & still signed for less than he stated.
Interesting to see what happens with little brother & Ole Miss.
My, and probably most peoples problem is with the likes of Cechini (sp), who clearly DID use LSU for leverage & still signed for less than he stated.
Interesting to see what happens with little brother & Ole Miss.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 5:16 pm to Diggerest
I have seen nothing to lead me to believe Zach Lee played LSU or didn't have a true desire to play football and baseball at LSU. No one could have foreseen that the Dodgers, by all accounts broke, would come up with 5+ million at the last minute to get a deal done. To try to say the kid used LSU is just nuts.
I forget whether it was ZVR that took a good deal less money than what he told the coaches it would take to sign him, or if it was someone else, but to me that's more of an example of a kid who never had the true intent to play at LSU and was just using LSU to get as high a number as possible.
I forget whether it was ZVR that took a good deal less money than what he told the coaches it would take to sign him, or if it was someone else, but to me that's more of an example of a kid who never had the true intent to play at LSU and was just using LSU to get as high a number as possible.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 5:18 pm to tadelatt
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tadelatt
Off topic, sort of, but I hope you checked back to the thread the other day after I provided the proof that Gausman was a higher rated prospect than Lee when they committed to LSU.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 5:23 pm to TigerinSoCal
ZvR even hitch hiked to Omaha to be with his (future) team. He was sincere.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 5:26 pm to TigerinSoCal
His agent cut a good deal with the Dodgers!
NOT!
Just check the bankruptcy petition filed by the Dodgers. They still owe him over $3 million and he will have to get it out of the courts.
Agent should have had a deal to get all of it guaranteed and up front.
NOT!
Just check the bankruptcy petition filed by the Dodgers. They still owe him over $3 million and he will have to get it out of the courts.
Agent should have had a deal to get all of it guaranteed and up front.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 5:32 pm to WindboyCajun
Excerpts from Los Angeles Times:
Retired outfielder Manny Ramirez is the Dodgers' largest creditor, according to the bankruptcy filing. The Dodgers owe Ramirez $21 million, followed by Andruw Jones ($11 million), Hiroki Kuroda ($4.5 million), Rafael Furcal ($3.7 million) and the Chicago White Sox ($3.5 million, for Juan Pierre).
The list of creditors includes much of the current Dodgers roster, Hall of Fame broadcaster Vin Scully ($152,778), the city of Los Angeles ($240,563 in tax debt) and two players yet to play for the Dodgers (prospects Zach Lee at $3.4 million and Alexander Santana at $499,500).
Retired outfielder Manny Ramirez is the Dodgers' largest creditor, according to the bankruptcy filing. The Dodgers owe Ramirez $21 million, followed by Andruw Jones ($11 million), Hiroki Kuroda ($4.5 million), Rafael Furcal ($3.7 million) and the Chicago White Sox ($3.5 million, for Juan Pierre).
The list of creditors includes much of the current Dodgers roster, Hall of Fame broadcaster Vin Scully ($152,778), the city of Los Angeles ($240,563 in tax debt) and two players yet to play for the Dodgers (prospects Zach Lee at $3.4 million and Alexander Santana at $499,500).
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