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re: LSU and its commitment to basketball?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 5:56 pm to TigerB8
Posted on 1/16/14 at 5:56 pm to TigerB8
Stanford is a good one. I don't know the numbers, but I'm going to assume Stanford has remarkably more resources than LSU does. I guess the question is how much of those resources do they use on sports.
My point is, being successful in all three sports is extremely rare.
My point is, being successful in all three sports is extremely rare.
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Posted on 1/16/14 at 6:14 pm to bfniii
Give JJ a piece of the attendance action. Put it in his contract as a bonus to be earned. no?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 6:22 pm to L S Usetheforce
The sloppy way the team plays ain't gonna put the fans back in the stands. Jones is not going anywhere, he's ours for a long time. Maybe he needs to hire a right hand man assistant who can coach .. Johnny's coaching is pitiful.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 6:38 pm to Skillet
Sure looks that way sometimes but this isn't quite the make up of what he ultimately wants as a team. He's a big fan of length and has some more of that on the way.
Having to start two sub 6 foot guards is not the ideal situation for him to employ his style of play, but its all he has currently.
Having to start two sub 6 foot guards is not the ideal situation for him to employ his style of play, but its all he has currently.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 6:46 pm to tiger4178
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Sure looks that way sometimes but this isn't quite the make up of what he ultimately wants as a team. He's a big fan of length and has some more of that on the way.
Having to start two sub 6 foot guards is not the ideal situation for him to employ his style of play, but its all he has currently.
This is pretty much exactly how I feel about the whole thing. The lack of intensity from some players has been discouraging to me too, though.
I think we had too high of expectations for JOB. He hasn't adjusted well to the new makeup of our team. When he plays well and doesn't turn it over, we're a totally different team. Same goes for Hickey.
That said, it's a long season. This has been a disappointing stretch but we've been competitive in every game outside of Tennessee. The sky isn't falling.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:00 pm to UpToPar
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My point is, being successful in all three sports is extremely rare.
I don't think many can match LSU in what I consider the big four sports, football, hoops, baseball, and track.
Basketball is our obvious weakness currently, but I have faith in JJ to eventually get that back to where we used to be.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:08 pm to lsu2006
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I think we had too high of expectations for JOB
JOB would get eaten alive in tNBA. Not sure where all those expectations originated, but have they seen him play lately?
He needs to get his head together and certainly plan on playing another year at LSU before even contemplating entering tNBA. He is simply not playing big boy basketball right now.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:15 pm to L S Usetheforce
WE really do have some of the shittiest fans anywhere.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:21 pm to UpToPar
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Realistically, it is extremely difficult for a university to be consistently successful in the big three sports.
There are only a handful of schools that can do it, and to be honest, LSU as a university is no where near those schools.
Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin are consistently successful in their big three sports of: football, basketball, and hockey.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:25 pm to L S Usetheforce
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Until we commit that type of money to a basketball coach we will be who we will be.
I didn't read this whole post, but read enough that people think a "high profile" coach is needed.... but I have seen no examples of these coaches they speak of.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:32 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin are consistently successful in their big three sports of: football, basketball, and hockey.
The only reason the yank schools are good at hockey is because they only play other yank teams.
tSouth would dominate that as well if they ever took it up seriously. Blee Dat.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:13 pm to lsu711
quote:. No. No that would be winning. It all starts with winning.
How can we afford more when we don't fill up the arena and our ticket prices are so low? It all starts with support from the fan base.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:40 pm to Noplacelikehome
You don't think Smart could have been a home run hire?
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:57 pm to otowntiger
I feel like our fans in the PMAC have just given up on trying to will the team to victory and are waiting for that game or special moment that will bring back the magic. I'm talking about something similar to Indiana's upset over Kentucky in 2011. A storm the floor type moment with hopefully more than 30 students to witness it.
The main issue is that LSU Basketball, for as long as I can remember, is the ultimate kick to the nuts when your excitement and expectations go up, so that's why we as a fan-base have little reason to try anymore.
The main issue is that LSU Basketball, for as long as I can remember, is the ultimate kick to the nuts when your excitement and expectations go up, so that's why we as a fan-base have little reason to try anymore.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:17 pm to Tom Bronco
quote:jones' resume isn't rocket surgery to figure out (thanks dlr). his recruiting wasn't really in question. his ability to win absolutely was in question for people who objectively looked at his resume and found it sorely lacking. his tenure so far is playing out precisely true to form. I hope it changes but there is nothing in his past that should give anyone confidence that it will.
let's not throw him under the bus just quite yet
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:27 pm to CITWTT
quote:I don't think anyone is talking about "overnight success." the talent level of the roster doesn't seem to be matching the play on the floor. that team should be competitive with ranked teams. there is as much frontcourt depth as pretty much any team in the nation. veterans in the backcourt. an allegedly supremely talented forward who is a non factor and a liability. mickey and job settling for 10-12 foot jump shots. guards not dribble penetrating.
Why would you think that an overnight success to be be a likelihood under those circumstances?
on the bright side, the full court press seems to be pretty good, at least up to the tenn game. the overall team defense is good enough.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:37 pm to oauron
quote:I disagree. I personally have camped out for games along with hundreds of other people. and it went on for years. attendance was really good even before shaq when Blanton or wayne sims or jose vargas were the better players.
This is a lie. LSU fans did not show up in 2009 when we won the SEC and attendance was ok during the 2006 Final Four year.
it's probably not fair to compare Johnson's first season because he wasn't someone that people were familiar with. by the time of '06, brady had alienated the fan base and shown that his teams could suck really, really bad. in a sense, you're confirming my point that even in those bad situations, lsu fans still had a decent presence.
I'm posting in this thread because I am mystified as to why lsu can't get someone like brad stevens away from butler. lsu could have essentially doubled his salary if the commitment was there. the competition would have been easier. the facilities are most assuredly better. I'm sure we could think of other similar names like shaka smart.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:39 pm to bfniii
Stevens was probably not going anywhere at the collegiate level outside of Duke.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:40 pm to UpToPar
quote:no sports program on the planet has "infinitely" more resources than lsu. not even Oregon or texas. lsu is in the elite of the elite when it comes to budget and resources. top 10 nationally. just look up the numbers.
All of those schools have infinitely more resources than LSU has
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:41 pm to tigerswin03
quote:I hope you're right. I like jones and I want him to succeed but, so far, it's not happening and the roster is solid.
we have the right man in charge
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