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re: Looking at the negative: Is overconfidence a potential problem?
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:56 pm to Datbayoubengal
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:56 pm to Datbayoubengal
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There is a chance
This.
OP is just talking about one thing we may have to watch out for. Someone could sneak up on us if we take them lightly.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:05 pm to deuce985
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deuce985
gd. Do you always try to outdo yourself on looking like a total idiot? Seriously dude....always so ignorant on here, it's as if you really aren't an LSU fan and just try to see how negative you can be.
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I don't think LSU right now is the best team in the SEC only because they have too many questions right now and haven't played anyone great
LMAO. LSU has played two preseason top 25 teams, out of their TWO games played so far this season. Let's hear about all of these QUESTIONS that you say LSU has.
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I still think Ole MIss is the best until LSU can show they can beat the best teams in the SEC.
So let me get this straight...Ole Miss has played a glorified high school team, a jr. college team, and a vastly overrated Alabama team who lacks a qb and a secondary.....yet you talk about how LSU hasn't played anyone and naturally Ole Miss has beat the best SEC team....LMMFAO. Ole Miss went into T town and escaped with a one score victory, despite their opponent offering up FIVE interceptions, and despite having a FLUKE play on offense that could have just as easily resulted in a pick 6. OM has a TON of questions on their OL, and despite what you say and think, "swag" was not overly impressive and will cost OM more than once this year.
You are either one of the following: A complete troll on this board, or a kid that has absolutely no clue what he is talking about. There is no other option.....one of the two. I'm thinking it was the latter.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:08 pm to BoCoTiger
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Overconfidence is what happened 1/9/12
I don't think overconfidence had anything to do with 1/9. We got smoked on 1/9 by a Bama team that was better, and we had no answer.
It's harder to run on teams early in games. Miles teams are run first teams, which tend to keep games closer until LSU pulls away late or, at a minimum, the games are closer than "expected".
Overconfidence can be a problem, but I would not characterize Miles' teams as being overconfident.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:12 pm to jekelish
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SU's run defense is definitely solid. Not "3rd in the nation" good, but it's a young, talented, but not particularly deep front 7.
I'm sorry, it is solid against the sisters of the poor. I hope (apparently you don't quite completely understand) that you realize that you aren't playing the sisters of the poor. Sure you can out talent very weak teams.....but you are going up against the best OL that you have faced in many years.
I suspect LSU won't run wild over Syracuse, but that's only because I expect them to shift their focus to getting BH some passing attempts. If LSU had the gameplan they ran last week.....LSU would put up minimum 400 yards rushing on Syracuse.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:13 pm to ChunkyLover54
Good point and well stated. I think the team, players and coaches alike, will have to manage their perspective throughout the season, although I don't see this as a trap game it's possible down the stretch. It's happened to the best teams and should be kept in mind.
Eta: I know the coaches keep all this in mind, they just have to make sure the players do.
Eta: I know the coaches keep all this in mind, they just have to make sure the players do.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:15 pm to ChunkyLover54
I think that this is a rare team who has the talent to back up their confidence, similar to the '11 team. I think a lot of people forget that the leaders on this team now went through a lot of struggles last year and grew so much by the end of it. The same team that got destroyed by state last year would not have taken bama to ot or beat ole piss. Our leaders like Fournette Harris Malachi Adams beckwith godchaux etc were really young and since then have really grown and meshed as a unit... I wouldn't take any other team over ours. The only negative I really see at this point would be possible injuries but let's pray we don't get to that
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:19 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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I'm sorry, it is solid against the sisters of the poor. I hope (apparently you don't quite completely understand) that you realize that you aren't playing the sisters of the poor. Sure you can out talent very weak teams.....but you are going up against the best OL that you have faced in many years.
You do realize I said I think Fournette will get his 150, right? And I am fully aware that there's basically no chance SU can win on Saturday. Not every offense in America has a rushing attack like LSU - which I fully understand is by far the best rushing attack we'll see this year. I'd be willing to bet SU still winds up in the top 25 nationally in rush defense, though, because again - not everyone we play is going to be as good at running the ball as LSU. Like I said - solid, not spectacular front 7.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:27 pm to ChunkyLover54
why oh why
Miles said they are doing everything to not allow this.
why look for a negative.. enjoy the ride.. like you did in 2011. this is a great team
Miles said they are doing everything to not allow this.
why look for a negative.. enjoy the ride.. like you did in 2011. this is a great team
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:43 pm to deuce985
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some point, stacking 9 in the box will make LF fall back to human status until LSU proves they can throw it. MSU kinda shut him down in the 4th and we almost lost the game due to how conservative we were.
he had a 9 and 17 yard run. Williams had a 27 yard run. penalties and the catch ruled not a catch stopped our offense. Not states D.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:44 pm to Tigerinthehollow
I guarantee you Bama is a better opponent this season than MSU and Auburn combined even at the overrated status. Ole Miss has a good defense and their QB is very solid. They went into Bama's home and beat them which is not easy to do regardless how you do it.
You're a moron if you can't see that. Auburn has no business being ranked in the top 25 and anyone that's not wearing P&G glasses can see that. They went ranked from #6 to like #18 without losing because they're so horrible. MSU is not talented outside Dak Prescott. Totally different team than last year.
Nice objective post and no counter arguments at all. Keep throwing insults out like you actually proved something. I already told you what the questions are. Brandon Harris hasn't proved he can throw the ball consistently if the run game is shutdown on LSU yet and defense hasn't really played a great offense. They got hammered by MSU in the second half and Auburn's entire team is bad right now.
Someone at some point will have a great defense that's capable of shutting LF down and they'll make BH win the game. Mississippi State doesn't have an excellent defense but they did a good job shutting him down in the 4th and they almost came back to win the game because of it.
You're a moron if you can't see that. Auburn has no business being ranked in the top 25 and anyone that's not wearing P&G glasses can see that. They went ranked from #6 to like #18 without losing because they're so horrible. MSU is not talented outside Dak Prescott. Totally different team than last year.
Nice objective post and no counter arguments at all. Keep throwing insults out like you actually proved something. I already told you what the questions are. Brandon Harris hasn't proved he can throw the ball consistently if the run game is shutdown on LSU yet and defense hasn't really played a great offense. They got hammered by MSU in the second half and Auburn's entire team is bad right now.
Someone at some point will have a great defense that's capable of shutting LF down and they'll make BH win the game. Mississippi State doesn't have an excellent defense but they did a good job shutting him down in the 4th and they almost came back to win the game because of it.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:47 pm to deuce985
bama almost lost to a bad LSU team late in the season, still went on to win the sec. I really hate our fans. Never seen a fanbase descredit wins like this one.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:49 pm to dgnx6
Fair enough but the point still stands...LSU will face someone at some point that will slow the run down significantly. I'm not sure how anyone can deny that. I don't care if we had Adrian Peterson reincarnated running behind there. You will have to throw the ball to win at some point. You can't hide your QB in the SEC and expect to win every game.
Nobody is discrediting anything. I'm just looking at it objectively. Great win, we looked great but I want to see it done consistently. As I said earlier in this thread, I like BH and think he'll develop as the season goes along. He doesn't need to put the team on his shoulders he just needs to be efficient like Lee was in 2011. Make the passes when they're available.
Nobody is discrediting anything. I'm just looking at it objectively. Great win, we looked great but I want to see it done consistently. As I said earlier in this thread, I like BH and think he'll develop as the season goes along. He doesn't need to put the team on his shoulders he just needs to be efficient like Lee was in 2011. Make the passes when they're available.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:30 pm to elprez00
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If they play out the season as they did against Auburn, then its got the potential to be a special year. If they play out the season the way they did the second half against State, then we might run into some issues.
Look, we played phenomenally against Auburn and with extreme intensity. But there's just no way to maintain that intensity level week after week.
It just isn't possible. There are emotional ebbs and flows to a season. We'll get sky high for Bama and maybe a couple more games, but it's just not possible for a team to be sky high for all 12 weeks.
We'll be emotionally flat as a pancake this week against Syracuse. We all feel it as fans, and you know the team feels it as well. I still think we'll win because we're ore talented, but I predict it will be closer than we want it to be.
Now that being said, truly great teams are able to at least summon enough energy and intensity and rely on their superior talent to win games when their energy level is low.
This is one of those weeks.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:35 pm to ChunkyLover54
No chance. We play in the SEC.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:41 pm to tgerb8
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Yes. It's a potential problem.
But I really believe this team has a lot more internal motivation and leadership than it has in recent years.
Beckwith, Adams, Fournette, Harris, and even guys that don't play all that much like Ed Paris are vocal leaders on this team.
This group seems willing to fight for wins instead of expecting them to be handed over.
I think that this game will actually be a decent barometer of our season. If they come out with fire and put this away quick, I think we'll know some more about the heart of this team.
I agree. This team has confidence that we've been missing since 2011-2012.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:43 pm to ChunkyLover54
You always want to be cocky and confident when it comes to sports. There is no such thing as overconfidence.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:46 pm to ChunkyLover54
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Is overconfidence a potential problem?
Yes. It's on a nearly infinite list that also includes remora, dysentery, Taco Bell sauce packets, and vape shops.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:51 pm to ShamelessPel
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There is no such thing as overconfidence.
Dumb....this is the kind of stupidity that gets you beat. There's a fine line between disrespect and overconfidence.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:58 pm to deuce985
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Brandon Harris hasn't proved he can throw the ball consistently if the run game is shutdown on LSU yet and defense hasn't really played a great offense.
This is lost on a lot of idiots. The two wins we've had were great in terms of getting us rolling in the right direction and creating chemistry and confidence.
But looking at our two opponents in the light of day (without P/G glasses) reveals that neither was very good, thus the fact that neither is currently in the AP Top 25.
So we go back and visit on old but reliable problem.....will Miles put his foot on the neck of SU early and crush their will to compete...or let them hang around making the game closer than need be. I'm thinking maybe this time...the former. They can't stop Buga no matter what kind of bone-headed shite is going on on the sidelines.....end of story.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:02 pm to ChunkyLover54
This game MAY be closer than what fans would like, and the negatigers will be back in full force next week if that happens. A win is a win.
This is a special team that is on a mission. They have a desire and killer instinct that's been missing for several years. You won't see the Ron Burgundy act from this quarterback (i.e. Mett at the Towson game).
Just a step up the ladder for the Tigers.
This is a special team that is on a mission. They have a desire and killer instinct that's been missing for several years. You won't see the Ron Burgundy act from this quarterback (i.e. Mett at the Towson game).
Just a step up the ladder for the Tigers.
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