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re: Line-up for tonight?
Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:46 pm to TortiousTiger
Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:46 pm to TortiousTiger
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oh yeah. well you get the point
I know, it was just kinda funny based on the argument.
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Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:51 pm to Lester Earl
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uhhhh he plays RF. Not exactly a prime def position
Yeah I know what position he plays and I know that RF is not major def position but I was talking about his arm. I don't think anyone can replace his arm. RF is where you want your strongest outfield arm. Plus, I think he plays an above average RF.
Look, I think we all agree he hasn't hit worth a dang in whats amounted to almost a full season. However, I'm not sure there is someone that could be consistently better on the bench. If he continues his poor hitting, eventually I would like to see maybe a platoon to see if someone else can win the job.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:52 pm to Lester Earl
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Uhhh yeah. Do you watch baseball?
Does Albert Pujols get benched when he slumps? no
Does So Taguchi get benched when he slumps? you better believe it
Exactly.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:53 pm to TortiousTiger
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who scored the run?
Helenihi
Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:53 pm to thunderbird1100
I haven't dumped since Monday...
Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:55 pm to tygerfan11
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. However, I'm not sure there is someone that could be consistently better on the bench.
seriously?
Hanover already pushed him out of 3B. So it has happened already.
McGhee has already been in half the ABS. And he isnt even that good himself
Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:55 pm to TortiousTiger
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when the hitter in the slump is the BA #2 outfielder in the nation
They must have low standards for a guy who can't do anything well right now.
2 for 14, 5 SO, 1 BB since SEC play started...Hitting .254 on the YEAR
I'm not saying he should be benched permanently. I'm saying if he can't get through this weekend with a good game or two he should be benched for a game or two to light a fire under his as and show no one is safe from seeing the bench on this team if they can't perform.
He has 1 purpose on this team and that's to hit for power while also having a good average. He hasn't done either.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:56 pm to Lester Earl
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Hanover already pushed him out of 3B. So it has happened already.
I don't think it was that so much as PM wanting both of them on the field for defense.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:57 pm to IM4LSU2
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I don't think it was that so much as PM wanting both of them on the field for defense.
lol, ok.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:58 pm to Lester Earl
LE, this is COLLEGE baseball, not a 162 game (or whatever is now) MLB season with superstars.
You can't just leave a guy who's done well before this year in there all year long if he NEVER gets better. You bench his arse, then put him back in to show no one is safe for not performing. Light a fire under his arse.
And once again Helenihi's ROLE is to be a great defensive player and he most certainly is.
I don't see any reason to bench him as long as his average isn't completely terrible much less not even among the 3 worst on the team.
You can't just leave a guy who's done well before this year in there all year long if he NEVER gets better. You bench his arse, then put him back in to show no one is safe for not performing. Light a fire under his arse.
And once again Helenihi's ROLE is to be a great defensive player and he most certainly is.
I don't see any reason to bench him as long as his average isn't completely terrible much less not even among the 3 worst on the team.
This post was edited on 3/18/09 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 3/18/09 at 4:58 pm to tygerfan11
You keep talking about Helenihi's arm, but Dean was supposed to be a pitcher coming out of HS and doesn't exactly have a bad arm either.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 5:00 pm to thunderbird1100
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fire under his as and show no one is safe from seeing the bench on this team if they can't perform.
I dont think he's hitting .250 for lack of trying. I think a better approach would be to let him work out of it.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 5:00 pm to Lester Earl
I understand that Hanover did. He is a stud. I just don't see McGhee or Dishon being consistently better. They have had ample time to prove that they deserved to be the starting RF. Since they haven't won the job, I assuming they aren't better than Helinihi. If PM is keeping Helenihi in just b/c he's an upperclassman and isn't letting better talent play then a change needs to be made.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 5:02 pm to thunderbird1100
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LE, this is COLLEGE baseball, not a 162 game (or whatever is now) MLB season with superstars.
It's the same premise
you dont bench your best hitter from the last 2 years because he is slumping
you DO bench your worst hitter from last year and worst hitter this year when he isnt performing
its simple baseball.
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And once again Helenihi's ROLE is to be a great defensive player and he most certainly is.
again, that is funny. If that were true, he wouldnt have lost his job to Hanover.
you dont stick a player in RF because he is a great defensive player. You do that at positions up the middle of the field: C, SS, 2B, CF. Not RF. If he keeps hitting like this, its only a matter of time before he is out the lineup or platooning
Posted on 3/18/09 at 5:03 pm to LST
Yeah I do b/c supposedly he has the best one on the team. I know Dean was supposed to be a pitcher and should have a good arm but there is obviously a reason that he DHs so much.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 5:03 pm to IM4LSU2
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I don't think it was that so much as PM wanting both of them on the field for defense.
Helenihi is a better 3rd baseman than Hanover due to his height/range but that's where Hanover and his arm are best utilized at 3B. That's why Helenihi got pushed back to RF.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 5:04 pm to tygerfan11
He has started more games in the field than he has at DH FWIW.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 5:05 pm to LST
I know but lately DH has been his role so that must mean that others have proven themselves to be better in the field than he was. I sure hope he turns his hitting around soon. we badly need it.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 5:07 pm to thunderbird1100
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Helenihi is a better 3rd baseman than Hanover due to his height/range but that's where Hanover and his arm are best utilized at 3B. That's why Helenihi got pushed back to RF.
I agree and IMO believe the coach wants both guys on the filed.
Posted on 3/18/09 at 5:08 pm to IM4LSU2
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I agree and IMO believe the coach wants both guys on the filed.
I agree with this, and I agree with Helenihi's playing time. I just don't agree with his reasoning.
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