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re: Let's discuss LSU's qb situation over the last 5 years
Posted on 2/6/15 at 7:47 am to FLBooGoTigs1
Posted on 2/6/15 at 7:47 am to FLBooGoTigs1
I'll be fine when Braxton Miller is starting.
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 7:47 am to Navytiger74
Another offseason and more questions at qb. Get over it.
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 7:50 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 7:53 am to RATeamWannabe
Won't happen Jennings to end. 
Wait we got Harris I feel better now
Wait we got Harris I feel better now
Posted on 2/6/15 at 7:54 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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why we get these highly regarded recruits and our qb play at the college level is sub par.
That's the million dollar question. Out batting average in recruiting and developing QB's is horrible. And, as we have seen, a whole field full of star players isn't enough when you're getting mediocre performances from your QB. If Miles and Cameron can't field a competent QB in 2016, I'm open to making changes at the highest levels. Who want's another 8-5 season because we don't have a QB who can lead our offense?
Posted on 2/6/15 at 7:58 am to FLBooGoTigs1
First, I think Harris should start. Let's get that out of the way.
We remember so much about Jefferson and Lee and their average to below average play, our minds are stuck on that because it felt like they were here for 7 years. Cam and Les can't develop a QB. Did they not develop Mett? Did Les not develop Flynn? Or let me guess, that was residuals from Saban, right?
Harris is young and fans, like you, don't have the the patience to let young kids grow up. 95% of the time, it doesn't matter who it is, the QB position isn't ready and won't play like a veteran until their Junior year. There are exceptions to the rule, of course, but most of the time...that's the case.
Unfortunately, Les had no options between Jefferson and Lee. Others transferred or went to play baseball. Or lied and backed out of their commitments. Timing could not have been worse.
Also, because of agendas, people will absolutely refuse to believe that Harris does have maturity issues. Doesn't know the playbook. Why is Harris infallible and it's all the head coaches fault? Kid has to shoulder the responsibility as well. It's ridiculous. I just started a new job 2 months ago, and I STILL don't know how to do half the things I'm supposed to. I'm learning but it will take a while. it's about learning new habits and about repitition.
Football coaches aren't going to go into games thinking about the future. They want to win today. Why throw away about season To let one kid gain experience, a freshman, while seniors and older players are playing their last game? Why up your odds to lose and ruin these guys last year and lose even more by giving the keys to a kid that doesn't know what he's doing? It sends the wrong message and ups your possibilities of losing even more games. Play for today. Not tomorrow. Maybe Jennings DID give LSU a better shot at winning last season. Doesn't mean he gives them the best shot next season.
Miles WANTS Harris as QB. I think that is proven by him opening it back up and his constant media quotes about how they need improvements at QB. Yet, I find that people like to bitch about bout Miles so much that they can't take a step back and see that. It's obviously more fun to start thread after thread whining about the qb spot and how it will NEVER be solid again, Nevermind were a year removed from a ridiculous seas on by Mettenberger.
We remember so much about Jefferson and Lee and their average to below average play, our minds are stuck on that because it felt like they were here for 7 years. Cam and Les can't develop a QB. Did they not develop Mett? Did Les not develop Flynn? Or let me guess, that was residuals from Saban, right?
Harris is young and fans, like you, don't have the the patience to let young kids grow up. 95% of the time, it doesn't matter who it is, the QB position isn't ready and won't play like a veteran until their Junior year. There are exceptions to the rule, of course, but most of the time...that's the case.
Unfortunately, Les had no options between Jefferson and Lee. Others transferred or went to play baseball. Or lied and backed out of their commitments. Timing could not have been worse.
Also, because of agendas, people will absolutely refuse to believe that Harris does have maturity issues. Doesn't know the playbook. Why is Harris infallible and it's all the head coaches fault? Kid has to shoulder the responsibility as well. It's ridiculous. I just started a new job 2 months ago, and I STILL don't know how to do half the things I'm supposed to. I'm learning but it will take a while. it's about learning new habits and about repitition.
Football coaches aren't going to go into games thinking about the future. They want to win today. Why throw away about season To let one kid gain experience, a freshman, while seniors and older players are playing their last game? Why up your odds to lose and ruin these guys last year and lose even more by giving the keys to a kid that doesn't know what he's doing? It sends the wrong message and ups your possibilities of losing even more games. Play for today. Not tomorrow. Maybe Jennings DID give LSU a better shot at winning last season. Doesn't mean he gives them the best shot next season.
Miles WANTS Harris as QB. I think that is proven by him opening it back up and his constant media quotes about how they need improvements at QB. Yet, I find that people like to bitch about bout Miles so much that they can't take a step back and see that. It's obviously more fun to start thread after thread whining about the qb spot and how it will NEVER be solid again, Nevermind were a year removed from a ridiculous seas on by Mettenberger.
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 8:01 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:00 am to TigerPanzer
Panzer my thoughts exactly. I watched Arkansas qb dude lit us up. Just amazes me how teams like arky and Texas a&m have legit starters and we can't find a legit qb. Hell the a&m qb was the second string and he still had better season than Jennings.
admins gives threads like this the anchor
Just honest thoughts from passionate fans.
admins gives threads like this the anchor
Just honest thoughts from passionate fans.
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 8:02 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:00 am to FLBooGoTigs1
This is the way i see it...LSU's most successful years have been with a pocket QB (Mett, Flynn, Russell, Mauck, Davy) and obviously a awesome defense....My thoughts on a duel threat...
A) NFL Duel Threats have maybe 2 good years then they are off the map..
B) Pocket Qbs as a whole are better passers than duel threat...(have accuracy, power, and read defenses better)
C) Duel Threat is easier to defend in my opinion than Pocket due to there being a 66% chance the ball will be ran (either by qb or rb) and 33% will be thrown and in that 33% chance of throwing you have a good/decent pass...(basically i believe you lose accuracy and maybe some strength on a duel threat vs a pocket passer)
D) i think what LSU needs is a mobile pocket passer(even though we had amazing success on offense with a qb that couldnt run 10'..Sorry Mett) ... one that can move around the pocket some and can read defenses and great accuracy....aka - Aaron Rodgers type
E) i think if a duel threat is used it should be used how we used Perrilloux in 2007 as a change of pace.
bottom line - LSU and really the NFL has more successful teams with pocket passers rather than duel threat...proof is in the pudding
This is all jus my opinion
A) NFL Duel Threats have maybe 2 good years then they are off the map..
B) Pocket Qbs as a whole are better passers than duel threat...(have accuracy, power, and read defenses better)
C) Duel Threat is easier to defend in my opinion than Pocket due to there being a 66% chance the ball will be ran (either by qb or rb) and 33% will be thrown and in that 33% chance of throwing you have a good/decent pass...(basically i believe you lose accuracy and maybe some strength on a duel threat vs a pocket passer)
D) i think what LSU needs is a mobile pocket passer(even though we had amazing success on offense with a qb that couldnt run 10'..Sorry Mett) ... one that can move around the pocket some and can read defenses and great accuracy....aka - Aaron Rodgers type
E) i think if a duel threat is used it should be used how we used Perrilloux in 2007 as a change of pace.
bottom line - LSU and really the NFL has more successful teams with pocket passers rather than duel threat...proof is in the pudding
This is all jus my opinion
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:04 am to TigerStripes30
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:09 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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QB position isn't ready and won't play like a veteran until their Junior year. There are exceptions to the rule, of course, but most of the time...that's the case.
:cheers :
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:17 am to FLBooGoTigs1
Pretty sure Jennings was listed as a pro style.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:21 am to dgnx6
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Pretty sure Jennings was listed as a pro style.
ok? so whats your point? in what i said doesnt apply to all pocket passers...i mean Jared Lee was considered a pocket passer too...and you see how well his first 3 years were at LSU
...When i say we need a pocket passer over a duel threat that doesnt mean just any pocket passer, of course you need to go recruit the best which is what LSU is capable of doing btw i do understand your statement wasnt in lue of what i said just another opinion
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 8:24 am
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:26 am to TigerStripes30
We've really only had one "Dual-Threat" QB in the last 15 years.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:29 am to FLBooGoTigs1
There's soooooo much left to discuss that hasn't already been said.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:32 am to TigerStripes30
Lsu needs to think outside the box when recruiting HS QB's. How many out of Alabama, lsu, aTm, Arkansas, miss st, ole miss, Florida, Missouri, or others have started or made it in the league (minus stafford).
Maybe instead of focusing on the top prospects lsu should try to find someone that fits our system and after a year or 2 of coaching can step in and be a good QB.
Yeah I know well these QB's from other mid major conferences aren't going up against sec defenses but hey some of them make it to the league (more than lsu or other sec powers have produced) and go up against nfl defenses.
Maybe instead of focusing on the top prospects lsu should try to find someone that fits our system and after a year or 2 of coaching can step in and be a good QB.
Yeah I know well these QB's from other mid major conferences aren't going up against sec defenses but hey some of them make it to the league (more than lsu or other sec powers have produced) and go up against nfl defenses.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:38 am to Austin Cajun
Gonna keep getting them until we can find a legit starter for more than one year. Sorry bro
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:39 am to bulldog95
Brad I agree.
Hope all is well your way
Hope all is well your way
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:40 am to bulldog95
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Lsu needs to think outside the box when recruiting HS QB's
agreed
quote:
Maybe instead of focusing on the top prospects lsu should try to find someone that fits our system and after a year or 2 of coaching can step in and be a good QB
agreed...we are def getting qbs that dont fit our system...and one problem with the last part of this quote...recruits now feel like they are entitled to come in and start right away and get butt hurt if they dont...i remember the days when recruiting classes come in and you wouldnt see them on the field until two years later(majority of them anyway) but now we are fighting to get a freshman qb out there to start..
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:42 am to bulldog95
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Maybe instead of focusing on the top prospects lsu should try to find someone that fits our system and after a year or 2 of coaching can step in and be a good QB.
Show me any high school in LA that runs a pro-style offense.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 9:04 am to FLBooGoTigs1
Jarrett Lee was thrown into the fire as a freshman... Stayed loyal and played great senior year and got screwed over by Les.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 10:13 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Another offseason and more questions at qb. Get over it.
I'll whip your arse, baw.
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