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re: 'Les Miles, Les Miles, how can you do it again?'

Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:02 pm to
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And whose fault is this? Who burned a timeout to have an obvious fumble reviewed?


Obvious to those with televisions. He trusted Ridley. Maybe he shouldnt have. Im not going to get into this.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:04 pm to
Is GC coming back? If so, then it seems like LM is stuck in deja vu all over again...Something has got to change.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:04 pm to
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Not everything is doom and gloom.
No it's not. LSU is an above average team. But the overall preparation and play of the team was really no better against PSU that it was against Wash (or anywhere in between, in the macro). Why should next year be any different.

And the defense actually gave up more yd/gm than last year, didn't have all the pick sixes. I'm not saying that last year's D was better, but this year was not some astronomical leap.
Posted by pmoney1245
Member since Nov 2009
217 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:04 pm to
YOU ARE THE HEAD COACH. Every player thinks they made the catch. Watch all the bowl games, and every player is always calling for the challenge flag. Good grief...
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:07 pm to
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Obvious to those with televisions. He trusted Ridley. Maybe he shouldnt have. Im not going to get into this.
so no one upstairs can review it? come on, man. sometimes I think you're just fricking around just to get people's goat.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:09 pm to
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If that gets fixed LSU could be right back where they belong.


What, on God's green earth, makes you think that the O will 'get fixed'? Just askin'
Posted by pmoney1245
Member since Nov 2009
217 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:11 pm to
Miles under no year has shown the ability to navigate a well disciplined team. With Florida & Alabama like they are, you can't hope for three losses from them.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:29 pm to
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And the defense actually gave up more yd/gm than last year,


Yards dont win games...points do. And LSU was 12th in scoring defense.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:39 pm to
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Miles under no year has shown the ability to navigate a well disciplined team. With Florida & Alabama like they are, you can't hope for three losses from them.


Because Florida and Alabama didn't have 4 and 6 losees 3 years ago. Because Bama didn't lose 2 games last year. Because Bama isn't going to lose 7-9 starters on D and Florida isn't going to lose Tebow or any other really good players.

You think if Florida kicked Tebow off the team before the start of the 08 season they win a NC? I'm not saying Perilloux would have been as great as Tebow was, but he would have been better than Lee last year and Jefferson this year. I don't think it's a strech to say we would have had a better offense and gone 11-2 this year.
This post was edited on 1/6/10 at 4:09 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:42 pm to
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Because Florida and Alabama didn't have 4 and 6 losees 3 years ago.


umm, last I checked neither bama or UF has had two straight zook like years in a row like us these last few year now have they? We are staring down the barrel of 3 straight if we lose 4 this year and if we do not improve performances.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 2:44 pm to
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umm, last I checked neither bama or UF has had two straight zook like years in a row like us these last few year now have they?


They also didnt have to start true rookie QBs two years in a row either.
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1317 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 3:32 pm to
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I'm not saying Perilloux would have been as great as Tebow was, but he would have been better than Les last year and Jefferson this year. I don't think it's a strech to say we would have had a better offense and gone 11-2 this year.


It sure gets the mind going to think what Perriloux would have meant to this team. The option would have actually worked! The kid screwed up and he was dismissed (rightfully so)....but Perriloux had TONS of talent. All the way around. I actually don't think Crowton could have screwed him up. lol
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 3:47 pm to
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And the defense actually gave up more yd/gm than last year, didn't have all the pick sixes. I'm not saying that last year's D was better, but this year was not some astronomical leap.

Yes they did give up more yards but fewer yards per play and the primary defensive statistic, scoring, was a quantum leap forward, 12th nationally. You must take into account that the offensive ineptitude adversely effected and helped to inflate the defensive stats. The defense had to atone for a below-average offense all year and did play well enough to win every game. With only a mediocre offense(around 60th) the Tigers probably finish with 11 or 12 wins(maybe more) and the defensive stats would have been even better for having to play less.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 3:48 pm to
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It sure gets the mind going to think what Perriloux would have meant to this team. The option would have actually worked! The kid screwed up and he was dismissed (rightfully so)....but Perriloux had TONS of talent. All the way around. I actually don't think Crowton could have screwed him up. lol
Last I checked, RP doesn't play OL. Pretty much everyone agrees that the OL was the main problem with the offense ("Barry Sanders couldn't run with our OL." etc) RP would be just additional weapon that Crowton would be burdened with trying to find a way to use.
AND, who would be the starter next year...JJ or JL with limited playing time. Are either of them prepared to shine next year with tons of playing time? Bottom line is that RP would have made nominal difference. Good Grief.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 3:54 pm to
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The kid screwed up and he was dismissed (rightfully so)....but Perriloux had TONS of talent. All the way around. I actually don't think Crowton could have screwed him up. lol

It's difficult to accurately put a handle on how much better the last two teams would have been with a "settled down" RP but it's not a stretch to say 4 or 5 fewer losses the last two seasons at the very least. This past season could have been a championship season with RP on board. He will play at the next level. The '07 SECCG was only a tidbit of the talent that guy has.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 3:58 pm to
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it's not a stretch to say 4 or 5 fewer losses the last two seasons at the very least. This past season could have been a championship season with RP on board.
If you really think one player would have made that much of a difference then I feel sorry for you. It could have been Tebow, McCoy, Ingram...I don't care. No way it would have made a significant difference given the overall state of our offense.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 4:15 pm to
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If you really think one player would have made that much of a difference then I feel sorry for you. It could have been Tebow, McCoy, Ingram...I don't care. No way it would have made a significant difference given the overall state of our offense.


QB is the 1 position where a player can have that much impact. How did Oregon do in 07 after Dixon went down? Changed their whole season. Trying to brush it aside and act like it had minimal impact is stupid. As poor as the O line played this year, part of the problem was JJ taking too many sacks.

Edit: Amd your point about Barry Sanders is silly. He rarely had good lines in Detroit.
This post was edited on 1/6/10 at 4:16 pm
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1317 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 4:17 pm to
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If you really think one player would have made that much of a difference then I feel sorry for you. It could have been Tebow, McCoy, Ingram...I don't care. No way it would have made a significant difference given the overall state of our offense.


Opinions are like elbows Billy Ray....everybody got two! I personally think RP would have made a big difference in the productivity of the offense. No way to prove or discredit the theory. Just an opinion.

I can tell you this, Perriloux was 3 times the QB/athlete George Jefferson is. Maybe not the choir boy.....but much more of an overall talent.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 4:19 pm to
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QB is the 1 position where a player can have that much impact. How did Oregon do in 07 after Dixon went down? Changed their whole season. Trying to brush it aside and act like it had minimal impact is stupid. As poor as the O line played this year, part of the problem was JJ taking too many sacks.
If you really think one player would have made that much of a difference then I feel sorry for you, too.
Do you think this would be a championship team with McCoy or Tebow or last year Bradford? Honeslty? Give me a break.

You'll probably say next that RP is better than them and would make more of a difference.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 4:49 pm to
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If you really think one player would have made that much of a difference then I feel sorry for you, too.
Do you think this would be a championship team with McCoy or Tebow or last year Bradford? Honeslty? Give me a break.


Yes, I think the QB position has that much effect on a team. How could you not? Oklahoma lost Bradford this year and they went 8-5. Do you honestly think Texas and Florida are as good as they have been if they don't have McCoy and Tebow?

If we have Tebow or McCoy we may very well be a championship team this year. I don't think RP was as good as those guys, but in the 2 games he started he showed that he had similar talent. He had a great year this year at Jacksonville St. Yeah it's just the Ohio Valley Conference, but he still payed great.
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