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re: 'Les Miles, Les Miles, how can you do it again?'

Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:40 pm to
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Because that would be pretty amazing to do what he did those first three years with all those problems.


YES! YES! Go back and watch the games. That is the #1 problem with RESULTS ORIENTED FANS who pay no attention to PERFORMANCE. We have been crappy in those areas not just in losses but in many wins. You can only get good results for so long(relying on talented players) by not putting in good PERFORMANCES (coaching). Eventually it will bite you in the azz. It is biting leslie miles right now. Had those performances been better and consistent the results would have been even better than what you saw in 05, 06 and 07. Yep. we coulda been that much better.
Posted by LSUownsSEC
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:43 pm to
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I guess that guy doesnt realize that Crowton calls the plays.


well if that is the case, we have an over paid CEO! remember the big bail outs for the CEO's just recently around the nation for large Corporations?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62651 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:44 pm to
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What does it say/show?


Not that you don't know,but it says we're in trouble at the top. Poor coaching ability and game management/calling.Nothing new,really.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:46 pm to
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YES! YES! Go back and watch the games. That is the #1 problem with RESULTS ORIENTED FANS who pay no attention to PERFORMANCE. We have been crappy in those areas not just in losses but in many wins. You can only get good results for so long(relying on talented players) by not putting in good PERFORMANCES (coaching). Eventually it will bite you in the azz. It is biting leslie miles right now. Had those performances been better and consistent the results would have been even better than what you saw in 05, 06 and 07. Yep. we coulda been that much better.


typical rantard response....all the good performances were because of the talent on the field, all the poor performances were because of coaching. You're a cliche.
Posted by lsu mike
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:47 pm to
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Next year LSU is going 6-6


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So, you are hoping we go 6-6 next year....BIG TIME Tiger fan, huh?


Don't know who said LSU is going 6-6 next season, but that does not mean they HOPE they will. That is the problem on here. Just because someone is not living in dream world and thinks the program is in serious trouble does not mean they hope LSU will suck. They are just saying what they think will happen after witnessing all of the crap we had to endure the past couple of seasons and not believeing Miles is capable of turning it around. Nothing wrong with that.

BTW what you say sensei buddy. How are things over in St Amant going these days.
This post was edited on 1/6/10 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:48 pm to
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well if that is the case, we have an over paid CEO!


or a shitty OC. I mean...thats why you have coordinators right? If you cant trust them to call plays then why even have them on the field. Which, once again, is why Crowton should be fired.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:52 pm to
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Which, once again, is why Crowton should be fired.


And do tell: why hasn't he been yet?
Posted by lsu mike
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:54 pm to
He is Miles' good buddy. Doesn't want to make him mad or not like him.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:55 pm to
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typical rantard response....all the good performances were because of the talent on the field, all the poor performances were because of coaching. You're a cliche.


Which really shows you know nothing about football or the details that need to go into it as far as the disciplines I listed to have solid performances across the board consistently. You are another results only idiot who knows nothing about performance or what it takes to achieve that performance in football.

Les Miles has just proved you wrong Kool- aid drinker,results oriented, naive, sunshine pumper, with these last two years worth of performances (on top of the first 3). But you know nothing about performances as far as GAME MANAGEMENT, PLAYER MANGEMENT, PLAYER DEVELOPMENT or ON THE FIELD DISCIPLINE DO YOU? Please prove to me that leslie has EXCELLED at these duties as CEO Head Coach. If you say you watched the games and did not see what i have pointed out, then you clearly do not know jack shite about football. But i think that has already been confirmed enough times here by you.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:55 pm to
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And do tell: why hasn't he been yet?


Dont know....i dont pretend to know what goes on behind closed doors and what people are thinking like some of the idiots here.
This post was edited on 1/6/10 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 12:58 pm to
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or a shitty OC. I mean...thats why you have coordinators right? If you cant trust them to call plays then why even have them on the field. Which, once again, is why Crowton should be fired.


So what does your buddy Leslie Miles do??? he cannot call one side of the ball to save his damn life. Oh but that is the OC's (or DC's) job. ok, so if miles does not have to even worry a tad about calling one side of the ball(or vetoes) all game which is very grueling, he should at least excel at CEO duties right? like PLAYER MANGEMENT? GAME MANAGEMENT? PLAYER DEVELOPMENT? ON THE FIELD DISCIPLINE?
Posted by Croozin2
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Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 1:00 pm to
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LSU has historically held on to coaches longer than their performance warrants. That being said, I think (regardless of record) Miles will be here for 2 more years. By that time, we will no longer be on the map.


SSM, I hope you're wrong but that is exactly the feeling I get with the program right now. Miles has become a laughing stock and LSU along with him. I still stand by giving him next year but I fear the results will be no different and the damage done will be irrepairable. Rebuilding to follow.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 1:00 pm to
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He is Miles' good buddy. Doesn't want to make him mad or not like him.


Sounds more like this sunshine pumping,koolaid drinking, know nothing about details and performance guy named CHOCTAW.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 1:00 pm to
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Les Miles has just proved you wrong Kool- aid drinker,results oriented, naive, sunshine pumper, with these last two years worth of performances (on top of the first 3). But you know nothing about performances as far as GAME MANAGEMENT, PLAYER MANGEMENT, PLAYER DEVELOPMENT or ON THE FIELD DISCIPLINE DO YOU? Please prove to me that leslie has EXCELLED at these duties as CEO Head Coach. If you say you watched the games and did not see what i have pointed out, then you clearly do not know jack shite about football. But i think that has already been confirmed enough times here by you.


It doesn't matter what i say...your blind hatred for Les Miles will not allow you to see anything any other way.

I know there are problems, plenty of them, im just not blind enough to blame everything on Miles. Theres more to it than that.

And as far as player management & development....ask the NFL what they think because they sure seem to draft alot of LSU kids.

But you go ahead and keep blaming Miles...its the easy thing to do when you dont know what the hell you're talking about.
This post was edited on 1/6/10 at 1:03 pm
Posted by SenseiBuddy
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 1:02 pm to
St Amant is cold but Birmingham is colder!!
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
73497 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 1:04 pm to
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.your blind hatred for Les Miles will not allow you to see anything any other way.


Complete and utter BS. I supported leslie for 5 years but saw the problems with performances. he got passes the first 3 years on his performances due to the results. But after really seeing how those performances have really bitten us in the arse the last two years, who can ignore it anymore? Oh wait, there is still you. I forgot.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 1:06 pm to
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But you go ahead and keep blaming Miles...its the easy thing to do when you dont know what the hell you're talking about.
You really should try to look past your nose. You really are blind.
HE'S THE HEAD frickING COACH!!!!
And the team is in disarray. And his list of obvious screw ups just keeps growing....literally every game.
It's not just Crowton, which is what you blame everything on.
Posted by lsu mike
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Posted on 1/6/10 at 1:06 pm to
Choctaw, have a legitmate question for you. If the decision to keep or fire Crowton is left ultimately left up to Miles and he decides to keep him on staff for whatever reasoning, and the offense is as putrid next season as this. Will your feelings change as to if Miles should be fired or not? If not then how much time would you be willing to give him?
This post was edited on 1/6/10 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Bushwackers
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Member since Dec 2006
3789 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 1:08 pm to
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If Les doesnt step in and say no when he hears a screen pass being called then its his fault a much as Crowtons


+100000
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/6/10 at 1:11 pm to
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Choctaw, have a legitmate question for you. If the decision to keep or fire Crowton is left ultimately left up to Miles and he decides to keep him on staff for whatever reasoning, and the offense is as putrid next season as this. Will your feelings change as to if Miles should be fired or not? If not then how much time would you be willing to give him?


Ive said this before. I will be upset if Miles decides to keep Crowton, but i will root for them and hope they turn it around.

But if Miles, with or without Crowton, loses 5+ games this year then he should be let go.
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