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Posted on 10/13/10 at 11:43 am to UncleBoo
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Whats The Hats record the first two years with mostly Saban recruits vs his record the next two years with his recruits?
Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner. He underachieves with the talent that LSU has. Should LSU have lost 5 games in '08? 4 games last year? Even had a close game this year? Nope, but he manages to do so without reprecussion. This is a Top Five talent team and I only pray he doesnt F it up like he tried to do the 07 National Championship year.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 11:46 am to UncleBoo
Didn't Butch Davis win a NC @ Miami?
Posted on 10/13/10 at 11:47 am to LSUextreme
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I only pray he doesnt F it up like he tried to do the 07 National Championship year.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 12:00 pm to graychef
What other coaches strive to achieve. 
Posted on 10/13/10 at 12:01 pm to Darren
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Didn't Butch Davis win a NC @ Miami?
No.
They won it in 2001 with Coker. Davis left after 2000. They should have played for the title in 2000, but screwed by the BCS.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 12:44 pm to medtiger
Tennessee game in 05. We were up like 17-0 at half then lost in OT
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:27 pm to LSUextreme
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Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner. He underachieves with the talent that LSU has. Should LSU have lost 5 games in '08? 4 games last year? Even had a close game this year? Nope, but he manages to do so without reprecussion. This is a Top Five talent team and I only pray he doesnt F it up like he tried to do the 07 National Championship year.
Underachieves? In what way? People use the talent argument way too fricking much. Yes, LSU is probably one of the Top 15 schools in the country in terms of talent, but there are at least 4-5 other SEC schools in that same window at any given moment.
Should he have lost 5 games in 2008? Probably not. But anyone who expected anything better than a 3-loss season was kidding themselves. We lost our starting QB, assloads of talent, and our DC that season. Keep in mind that in a similar scenario... and without losing a QB or DC, Florida went 9-4 in 2007.
Should he have lost 4 games in 2009? Probably not. But would it really have made you feel that much better to say that we SHOULD have beaten Penn State and didn't? Florida and Ole Miss manhandled us for 4 quarters and Alabama came on strong in the 4th to steal the win. That last one was injuries to our "superior" talent, not a deficiency of coaching the players.
And now you're bitching about having close games? What team so far hasn't had one?
Alabama
Oregon
Ohio State
Boise State
Auburn
Oklahoma
Every one of these teams has had a "close" game this season and all are ranked in the Top 10 of every major college football poll. You're kidding yourself if you think we should have blown up every opponent with the ?s we had coming in. That's a part of college football. Get used to it or stop watching.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:45 pm to chilge1
And when it counts the most....
Slightly better than average.
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8-7 = The Hat’s record against Top 10 teams
Slightly better than average.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 2:26 pm to chilge1
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Underachieves? In what way? People use the talent argument way too fricking much. Yes, LSU is probably one of the Top 15 schools in the country in terms of talent, but there are at least 4-5 other SEC schools in that same window at any given moment.
Should he have lost 5 games in 2008? Probably not. But anyone who expected anything better than a 3-loss season was kidding themselves. We lost our starting QB, assloads of talent, and our DC that season. Keep in mind that in a similar scenario... and without losing a QB or DC, Florida went 9-4 in 2007.
Should he have lost 4 games in 2009? Probably not. But would it really have made you feel that much better to say that we SHOULD have beaten Penn State and didn't? Florida and Ole Miss manhandled us for 4 quarters and Alabama came on strong in the 4th to steal the win. That last one was injuries to our "superior" talent, not a deficiency of coaching the players.
And now you're bitching about having close games? What team so far hasn't had one?
Alabama
Oregon
Ohio State
Boise State
Auburn
Oklahoma
Every one of these teams has had a "close" game this season and all are ranked in the Top 10 of every major college football poll. You're kidding yourself if you think we should have blown up every opponent with the ?s we had coming in. That's a part of college football. Get used to it or stop watching.
Use your eyes. We were a lot better than Florida and light years better than Tennessee. We ran 71 plays to their 34 and barely won the game. In both games he played a QB who has 7 interceptions in 100 attempts over a guy who has led the team to two game winning scores in two weeks. His stubborn ways will catch up with this team. He knows he is out.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 2:30 pm to tigahbait62
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We were up like 17-0 at half then lost in OT
not being debbie downer for the thread, but it was 21-0
Posted on 10/13/10 at 2:32 pm to Tiger Vision
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And when it counts the most....
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8-7 = The Hat’s record against Top 10 teams
Slightly better than average.
Hell, son...where'd you learn to cipher? 
That would be a .5333 winning percentage against the Top 10, and I can asure you, that's much,much better than average. Posted on 10/13/10 at 9:37 pm to OTIS2
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If Miles can win the next three games, he'll have the exact same record, 60-15 that Larry Coker did at Miami.
Randy Shannon: 24-19 at Miami
Posted on 10/13/10 at 10:09 pm to LSUextreme
Some people are just idiots
Posted on 10/13/10 at 10:25 pm to LSUextreme
Hey, Saban you worried Les will surpass your legacy of being the best LSU coach.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 10:31 pm to ChixDigScars
Could you give me those statistics in the last 2 years?
Also, I'd like to know. Of all his top 25 opponent wins: How many of them finished the season top 25, and was he ranked higher or lower than them prior to the game?
(IE: Was he #1 playing #25)
Same for top 15, and top 10. Were they top whatever before the game, or at the end of the season? Or do you still think boise state gets credit for beatin virginia tech who was preseason ranked in the top 10?
Also, in most of the big skill positions. How many starters did he play when it was their back ups who are successful in the NFL? Seems to be a common theme in both quarterbacks and running backs.
LSU was amazing when he first got here, but please quit trying to quote statistics that are misleading.
Instead, try to notice trends. That's what's important.
Then again, if Miles started Jarrett Lee, I would give him all the props in the world. However, this bullshite about calling him a genious for his fake field goal in the Florida game, is rediculous. He forgot to tell the most important people that it was going to be a fake, we are very fortunate that it worked out.
Don't get me started on the reason we had to drive down the field in the first place.
Also, UF is not a come from behind victory. They had the lead for a few minutes... we led the whole game... come from behinds insenuate that you were down by more than 1 score. It's amazing how bias is even shown on "objective" statistics.
Also, I'd like to know. Of all his top 25 opponent wins: How many of them finished the season top 25, and was he ranked higher or lower than them prior to the game?
(IE: Was he #1 playing #25)
Same for top 15, and top 10. Were they top whatever before the game, or at the end of the season? Or do you still think boise state gets credit for beatin virginia tech who was preseason ranked in the top 10?
Also, in most of the big skill positions. How many starters did he play when it was their back ups who are successful in the NFL? Seems to be a common theme in both quarterbacks and running backs.
LSU was amazing when he first got here, but please quit trying to quote statistics that are misleading.
Instead, try to notice trends. That's what's important.
Then again, if Miles started Jarrett Lee, I would give him all the props in the world. However, this bullshite about calling him a genious for his fake field goal in the Florida game, is rediculous. He forgot to tell the most important people that it was going to be a fake, we are very fortunate that it worked out.
Don't get me started on the reason we had to drive down the field in the first place.
Also, UF is not a come from behind victory. They had the lead for a few minutes... we led the whole game... come from behinds insenuate that you were down by more than 1 score. It's amazing how bias is even shown on "objective" statistics.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 10:55 pm to OTIS2
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Hell, son...where'd you learn to cipher? That would be a .5333 winning percentage against the Top 10, and I can asure you, that's much,much better than average.
Actually you need to learn to cipher. .500 would be perfectly average. This would be a 7-7 record or perfectly middle of the road. Since Miles is at .53333 or 8-7 that would be slightly better than average.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 11:09 pm to EricB
wow.................i found you....
hey everyone, eric is really nuts4
hey everyone, eric is really nuts4
Posted on 10/14/10 at 3:21 am to blackjackjackson
Love him or hate him... it doesn't matter....he is the coach of my team.....and THEREFORE...he has my full support as do all of the players who show up and give it their all...Gotta Love the stats!!! Geaux Tigers! 
Posted on 10/14/10 at 3:55 am to chilge1
Great stats!
Not trying to nitpick but was confused with the following:
1-1 = The Hat’s neutral site record against Top 15 teams
2-0 = The Hat’s neutral site record against Top 10 teams
(Wouldn't this make the record against Top 15 at least 3-1?)
If you are in the Top 15, by definition you are in the Top 10.
Not trying to nitpick but was confused with the following:
1-1 = The Hat’s neutral site record against Top 15 teams
2-0 = The Hat’s neutral site record against Top 10 teams
(Wouldn't this make the record against Top 15 at least 3-1?)
If you are in the Top 15, by definition you are in the Top 10.
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