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re: LB and DL Depth

Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:51 am to
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:51 am to
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so ready for Grimes to go. Don't understand why O kept him. Never made sense to me.


keeping the OL recruits after Les' firing, I'm guessing. kinda remember Deculus speaking highly of him, and I think he was big with Ingram too.

Grimes was always supposed to be more recruiter than actual coach.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:51 am to
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Grimes has this belief that he can recruit raw athletic tackles and mold them into good football players which is great in theory. The problem is that it has been proven that he can't. NONE of his raw project tackles have worked out. The guy needs to go!


The days of the 6'5" 310 lb offensive tackle are over. The 6'4", 245 lb,lightening fast DE has put an end to that in college. Recruit more than size.
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1237 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:52 am to
Grimes and Moffitt need to be shown the nearest exit immediately. Our OL has been getting pushed around by inferior lines for quite some time now. Clapp was getting blown back off the line way too easy as well as others during the entire MSU game. Bama DL eats our lunch. We are not physical/strong in the trenches anymore and that's where it all starts.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22957 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:01 am to
This is where I'm at. Is it technique or strength? Wouldn't this matter? If technique is good, but strength is lacking, then the OL looks bad. If there is raw strength and bad technique, the OL also looks bad.

I honestly have always thought it was the strength and conditioning program but don't know enough about technique to decipher one way or the other.

If it strength then I couldn't blame Grimes as much. He did bring in some talented lineman they just couldn't get the books right.
Posted by WM_Tiger
NELA
Member since May 2017
1577 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:01 am to
Yeah I've been saying that for a while about both as well. I know Moffit has a great history as of late , but it seems like LSU has just been a soft team for a few years. Maybe Moffit is too comfortable.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158779 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:08 am to
Grimes is either awful at talent evaluation or player development....maybe both

either way the attrition falls at his feet and he shouldn't have been kept on post Les
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28440 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:16 am to
The 2013 class seemed like a tremendous DL haul at the time

Herron was a 5* (2nd best player in TN)
Gilmore a 4* (#1 player in NC)
Bower was a 4* and a big signing day surprise

As it turned out, the two best players in that class were the two lowest ranked, Lacoture and Neal. Neither were dominant players, but they contributed. The rest of the class has done virtually nothing of note

In 2014 the ONLY good DT LSU brought in was Godchaux. 2015 saw LSU get NO DT's

That's a 3 year period where essentially only 1 impact DT was signed

You hate to always talk about them, but they're the benchmark. Bama's dominance has largely been due to the dominance along the DL. Clemson started to become a force when they started signing guys like Shaq Lawson, Christian Wilkins, Dexter Lawrence, et al.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158779 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:18 am to
Brick did finish runner up to some great DL though....
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28440 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:21 am to
The 2019 recruiting class is there for the taking for LSU along both lines.

Obviously it's VERY early, but the current rankings show LSU has 2 OL's who are ranked in the top 20 nationally. The #1 and #2 players overall are D-lineman with Louisiana ties.
Posted by WM_Tiger
NELA
Member since May 2017
1577 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:09 am to
I hope we get to tier talent next year. The talent alone could set us up for some great seasons to come.
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