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re: Kelly has already lost the top 2 DL in the state to A&M
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:01 am to Homer Pelican
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:01 am to Homer Pelican
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A&M paid lots of money to get them. When will u fools get it in your heads NIL has hurt college football There's no loyalty any more to your state schools. Money talks BS walks
This isn’t true for every player. Pate said he has talked to the recruiting analysts and players don’t talk about NIL as much as people make it seem like. He said very few players go with the most money solely**. Same with wins.
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:01 am to The Egg
They aren’t lost yet
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:01 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
It was clear from the start that NIL would benefit schools with deep pockets at the detriment of everyone else. Saw reports where kids now want $5k just to visit a school.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:02 am to Lester Earl
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Whoa whoa whoa whoa...Stop. Right there. You either want to treat recruiting with nuance, or you don't. LSU is either always getting outbid, or they aren't. Make up your mind, then we can have a discussion about it.
You’re the one counting on “commits” before they even sign a LOI
Wait, just realized who I was replying to. Guy who’s never been right about anything.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 11:06 am
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:03 am to TigerAttorney
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I’ve seen Wardel Mack play in person multiple times. Not impressed at all. We didn’t miss on him.
Lol sure
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:04 am to bayou85
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This isn’t true for every player. Pate said he has talked to the recruiting analysts and players don’t talk about NIL as much as people make it seem like. He said very few players go with the most money solely**. Same with wins.
They don't.
Recruiting has nuance. Yea, Some kids will fight over the money. But A lot of kids just want to go to a place they feel comfortable and can play early.
I have followed recruiting hardcore for 25 years. The patterns are not all that different when it comes to LSU.
Fans just cannot get NIL out of their head. Every recruiting loss is because of NIL to them. But they fail to acknowledge the wins when the variables are the same.
The data & context proves that is simply not always about money.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:04 am to bayou85
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This isn’t true for every player. Pate said he has talked to the recruiting analysts and players don’t talk about NIL as much as people make it seem like. He said very few players go with the most money solely**. Same with wins.
Two Louisiana HS DL not knowing who their DL position is going to be at LSU and thus committing to TAMU is not necessarily NIL related
they havent signed yet
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:05 am to AkronTiger
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Laying it all on money is bull shite This staff lacks elite recruiters and it shows in the recruiting class You’ll get killed for this but you’re right
Both can be true.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:05 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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You’re the one counting on “commits” before they even sign a LOI
You are counting LSU's recruiting losses before they even sign a LOI.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:06 am to The Egg
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Lost the best DB to Florida
we have a better CB from Florida commited if that helps.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 11:08 am
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:07 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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BK’s salary is absolutely irrelevant to the discussion on how to recruit in the NIL era.
We could pay BK less and spend more on Coordinators, and or use money for his salary to go towards NIL.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:08 am to Cuz413
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We could pay BK less and spend more on Coordinators,
we spend plenty on coordinators
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and or use money for his salary to go towards NIL.
LSU couldn’t
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:09 am to ipodking
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Laying it all on money is bullshite
This staff lacks elite recruiters and it shows in the recruiting class
Blaming money every time a recruit goes elsewhere is absolute bullshite and gives CBK a pass
This is the truth and anyone who bothers to pay for a subscription to On3 or 247 knows it. We made comparable NIL deals for guys like McKinley. This staff is comprised of former Grand Valley State coaches who are getting out worked on the trail by Elijah Robinson and other elite recruiters. Kelly is proving to be what he always has been as a recruiter. This class will finish ranked somewhere in the teens like most of his classes at Notre Dame did. That might win you the occasional Citrus Bowl but it's not going to win championships. UGA, Bama, A&M, Texas and even Florida are running circles around us in recruiting.
We should have hired a coach who knows what it takes to compete in the SEC arms race. Instead Woodward hired Kelly.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:09 am to Cuz413
LSU and TAF Pay salaries
LSU and TAF do not pay NIL
NIL is from businesses
go away
LSU and TAF do not pay NIL
NIL is from businesses
go away
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:12 am to Lester Earl
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You are counting LSU's recruiting losses before they even sign a LOI
I am not counting them as losses. I just don’t count on recruits until the LOI is signed and they are actually on campus.
Lot can happen between now and then.
Yes we may actually sign some or all of them. But to deny the possibility that another school won’t buy them away just because they are “committed” is silly.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:14 am to Homer Pelican
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Kelly didn't lose shite. A&M paid lots of money to get them. When will u fools get it in your heads NIL has hurt colleg
I’m sure they paid a frick ton of cash for a DL ranked in the 20-40 range at his position.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:17 am to Cuz413
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We could pay BK less and spend more on Coordinators, and or use money for his salary to go towards NIL
Thank you for demonstrating to everyone that you have absolutely no idea where NIL money comes from.
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:20 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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am not counting them as losses. I just don’t count on recruits until the LOI is signed and they are actually on campus.
I don’t either. That has nothing to do with the point though.
You either think they are getting outbid against certain schools, or you dont.
LSU has beat A&M for kids. If every recruiting win or loss is about money, then you cannot factually say A&M is outbidding lsu
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:21 am to Homer Pelican
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Kelly didn't lose shite. A&M paid lots of money to get them.
Uh huh. And you don’t think the DL coach situation was a factor AT ALL?
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:22 am to Homer Pelican
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This isn't pro ball. Why should u have to pay an 18 year old to come to LSU. HE SHOULD WANT TO
Not how it works anymore, PawPaw.
I don’t like it anymore than you do. But there it is.
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