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Just watched the 2014 LSU/Gumps on ESPN and

Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:44 pm
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:44 pm
I honestly believe Les Miles is actually a worse X & O coach than Dale Brown was, and that is actually accomplishing quite a feat!!!

You have a minute left you are on their 25 year line and you call a time out because you can’t call a fricking RUNNING play without having a delay penalty!!! If that IDIOT would have just run the ball, just like he did coming out of the time out. Bama would have had 25 seconds left to drive the field for the FG to tie it!!

And the bone head move to squib it out of bounds obviously didn’t help. But I still believe they would not have had enough time even on the 35yd. All they did until they crossed midfield with 5 yd passes and they couldn’t have done that with only 25 seconds instead of a minute!


I was a fan of Les, but when you look at some of these past games we lost and we won you just go, how the hell did we actually do as well as we did under him! I honestly believe he is the worst clock manager in the history of college football!!!

Another game Les snatched defeat right out of the mouth of victory!!!
Posted by TigahsBy90
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:47 pm to
Yeah, it was brutal
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:47 pm to
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how the hell did we actually do as well as we did under him!



The man could recruit
Posted by Jb1994
Member since Sep 2018
2116 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:51 pm to
Of all the lsu-bama games during the "streak", this was absolutely the one we should have won
Posted by GeuaxTigers504
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2011
668 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:51 pm to
Pretty much, people don’t realize that Les was an ace recruiter, just a bad x’s and o’s guy, Les won a ton of games at LSU on talent alone!
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25706 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:52 pm to
I always wished the Michigan hire was true in 2007 but Kirk herbstreit let me down that day. His clock managements against ole miss and Tennessee back to back years alone was enough to get him out of here. He is a great guy but it was long overdue.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 11:12 pm
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9077 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:55 pm to
I'm watching it too and can't help but think Les stayed too long. Dude could recruit athletes but he just laid eggs at the most important times.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69278 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:55 pm to
At least the game was competitive and LSU actually led in the 4th Q

Orgeron kicked a moral victory field goal down 29 points vs Bama....and missed

That’s what cream puff rent a win teams do when playing superior opponents

Embarrassing


Orgeron will probably never sniff a 2014-type game vs Alabama
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 10:56 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:56 pm to
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And the bone head move to squib it out of bounds obviously didn’t help.

Pretty sure that wasn't the plan
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25706 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:58 pm to
After Bama beat us in the championship game Bama started loading up on both sides of the line while we just loaded up on wrs and cornerbacks. That is where Bama started to dominate us from that point on and coach O is trying to reload on those positions. We are doing better on the dline but oline depth is not there yet. He better get it right on next year’s class.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27802 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:58 pm to
It’s amazing what people can believe they see in a game compared to what actually happened.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:00 pm to
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The man could recruit

I just watched it too and I got a different take.

He could recruit everything but a damn QB.

Harris had come in for Jennings and HE was the reason the TO had to be called. I mean, as it was, it was a 39 yarder with Colby Delahoussaye, which was certainly not a given. Lose 5 more yards to delay of game and it's really a stretch.

Then kicking it out of bounds...shite, the squib was the right call. That's on the damn kicker...Domangue? How are you a kicker at that level and not be able to kick it straight?
Posted by brodrig
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
680 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:02 pm to
Yes, but also did you notice that they go to commercial with 2:40 left and come back at 1:07 after V. Alexander penalty. Pretty convenient to skip that 1:30 most critical of game time on the broadcast.

Conspiracy, SEC/SEC network/Tom Ritter, nah..... nothing to see here
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25706 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:02 pm to
I was always amazed how he could get wrs without a quarterback lol
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38222 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:06 pm to
Can we talk about Stephen Rivers for a sec. I refuse to believe he was a worse option than Jennings/Harris in 2014. And the decision to redshirt multiple DL that could’ve played in 2013 to gain experience fricked us badly. Ego and Johnson played the majority of the reps in 2013 and 2014’s DL was completely raw with Godchaux starting as a true frosh.

The mismanagement of the program from 2012 onward was absolutely baffling.

2014 on paper should’ve been a 10 win team. 2015 should’ve been a national title contender. 2016 should’ve as well.


ETA: we had fricking Danielle Hunter... and completely wasted him for 3 years. He’s a monster in the NFL where he was actually taught technique
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 11:11 pm
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25706 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:17 pm to
When les miles hired John Chavis it was like a band aid. It was great short term but a disaster in the long run. Chavis did great with the players we already had but he was terrible at recruiting and he stopped recruiting big dlinemen for faster shorter guys. Hell his last year we didn’t even sign a linebacker and he played DJ welter over Beckwith lol.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Vaquero
Member since Dec 2012
134 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:22 pm to
Damn even after watching highlights I hardly remember this game. How we were able to keep it competitive with Jennings at quarterback is nothing short of a miracle. And yet incompetency lost it for us.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38222 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:28 pm to
In fall camp 2014 Chavis kept raving about Welter. “Most impressive fall camp I’ve ever been around”

Auburn was going in fricking dry and Beckwith came in and difference was night and day and Welter didn’t start again that season. Beckwith and Kwon were lights out until after Alabama when the team quit and we rolled into Fayetteville with chicken broth and hot cocoa to keep our players happy. I’m getting angry just thinking about this.

Barely won against Wisky. Melvin Gordon got pulled from the game for some reason.

Dak deep dicked us in TS.

Nick Marshall and Auburn demolished us 41-7

Lost a heartbreaker to Bama due to incompetency

Lost to Arkansas because the team quit basically

Lost to Notre Dame with Chief not even there



ETA: how could I forget about Jennings throwing like 3 picks against New Mexico State


This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 11:35 pm
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:29 pm to
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The man could recruit


Yeah I know it was kinda rhetorical because it just get frustrating to watch all his mistakes that cost us games
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:32 pm to
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At least the game was competitive and LSU actually led in the 4th Q


Yeah what a consolation, no different from saying “well if my Aunt had a dick, she would be my Uncle” it is a lose lose who cares
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