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re: Just a thought about QB play...

Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:15 pm to
I wish some of this was true...in 2012 Mett obviously had a gun, but accuracy issues and he hadn't found a comfort zone plus he was older. AJ has the middle two, but not the first and last one. I see AJ as a Mason(UGA) like QB as he develops. I'll admit this if proven wrong, but I think that is his ceiling. Nothing wrong with this and I don't question his heart or work ethic.

Mett on the other hand will start as a rookie very soon per his NFL coach.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:55 pm to
I think we have a chance to win...but not if we rush, rush, rush, and throw and occasional deep ball.
They will load up the box and the QB will not have sufficient time to throw deep
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:58 pm to
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As far as what we knew about him before the Bama game in 2012 and what we know about Jennings now, they're pretty similar.



Arm strength? No. Which is why he'll be limited in things he is allowed to do in this offense. It will be very controlled.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:02 pm to
A couple of long throws and a few Ole Miss turnovers and I think there's a chance to win. I have no faith in the ability to sustain long drives in this game though.
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:12 pm to
Roger I agree with your last two comments... I would add LSU needs to win STs and keep OMs rushing yards to 125 or below.

Bad Bo will resurface this year as well...hope it is against the good guys. OM is way up in turnover margin now...this stat tends to equal out over time(yes I've been reading Phil Steele for years )
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:50 pm to
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Now Miles has beaten fear into his head and he'll never be the same.
He is scared to death of turning the ball over. Miles drills this into his QBs.

so if you're such an expert on Miles and how he handles quarterbacks, why is everything you say always immediately proven to be 100 percent wrong. how come you're never ever right about anything.

like before NMST when you said Harris would be lucky to ever play again this year





and before he started at Auburn, you made it perfectly clear that he'd never start at Auburn





but when he did finally get in, he was gonna light that shite up



and you had know all this for a while



in fact you even frick up being negative. you said we'd beat Miss State, because hey, its just Miss State



and they (and by "they" I mean the current number 1 team) arent very good



Posted by theknightswhosay
Southern California
Member since Nov 2010
670 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:51 pm to
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AJ can make the long pass down the field, sometimes.


He can also make the short pass, sometimes. Just like how Mett was.
Posted by theknightswhosay
Southern California
Member since Nov 2010
670 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:53 pm to
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I have no faith in the ability to sustain long drives in this game though.


We either need to keep them off the board early or we need a somewhat lucky break. We should be able to sustain drives later in the game, but I'm hoping it's not too late.
Posted by theknightswhosay
Southern California
Member since Nov 2010
670 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:55 pm to
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Arm strength? No.


What? Don't the long completions indicate arm strength? Is there some magic that propels the ball along the sidelines that doesn't require arm strength?
Posted by GratefulTiger
Member since Dec 2003
1557 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:56 pm to
Nothing's going to happen until Jennings makes more than one read. It's really that simple.
Posted by theknightswhosay
Southern California
Member since Nov 2010
670 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:59 pm to
There was a sudden improvement in play when we had a really good opponent at home around this time of year in 2012.

I'm not saying Jennings is going to progress at the rate Mett did, but I think we have a better running game than we generally did with Mett. I also think we could have a better defense (than last year anyway) if we could just get them off the field a little more.
Posted by SouthTiger504
Member since Sep 2014
1163 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:03 pm to
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Not fear of getting hit, fear of throwing picks.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:33 pm to
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I've seen Jennings stand in the pocket and deliver throws even though he knows some defender is about to rock him. He doesn't play afraid


Not afraid to get hit. Afraid to make mistakes or turn it over.

I had a basketball coach like that in high school. Makes you play tight, afraid to make a mistake. Not good.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:39 pm to
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theknightswhosay


Dude...

The only thing that is similar with Jennings and Mett is that they play QB at LSU. That's it.

You keep talking about the big change from Mett in 2012 to 2013... The change was Cam Cameron. Mett was under Cameron for 1 season and it made a big change in his game. Jennings is in year 2 and looks exactly like he did last year vs Iowa.

In 2012, Mett had a 58.8% completion percentage and a 64.9% in 2013, his only year with Cameron. . Right now, Jennings is at 50% on the year and has only been above 53.8% in one game. And that includes the cupcake games.

Mett was actually a legit passing threat and a QB that could sit back, thrown the ball 30+ times a game and shred the opponent and get the win. If Jennings has to throw the ball just 25 times in a game, we will lose and lose badly.

Mett could make every throw in the book. The only thing Jennings can completely is the occasional deep ball to Dural or a check down to the FB out the backfield. He is horribly inaccurate or just about every other throw. And struggles to make the right decision with the ball and go through his progressions. He sits there and waits for the deep ball to Dural to develop, which takes a while, and now defenses are trying to take that away so it's not always there, and by the time he realizes it's not open, the D is getting pressure because it takes so long for a deep route to develop and he either still just throws it up and hopes Dural can make the play or takes a sack.

Oh and this time in 2012, Jeremy Hill was emerging as the clear cut RB1 for us. I don't think you can say we have a better running game now than we did then. On par? Yes. But also you gotta factor in that opposing Ds aren't worried about Jennings passing the ball like they were with Mett. Teams stack 8-9 in the box and just man up our WRs on the outside. And he's still a 50% completion % QB. Teams didn't do that with Mett because he was a legit QB and would tear you apart if teams did that. And that opened up the running lanes for Hill.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29263 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:42 pm to
jennings just looks so uncomfortable out there. he was playing loose against arkansas, not overthinking, just playing football.

he has looked tight since the bowl game.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64288 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:42 pm to
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Now Miles has beaten fear into his head and he'll never be the same.


Congrats on a sh!t for brains post.

Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18496 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:43 pm to
Have to open offense and not be timid...coaching staff and player.
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:54 pm to
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He is scared to death of turning the ball over. Miles drills this into his QBs.



How do you know that for sure? You watch practices? Do you spend every minute of every practice with the players. Or you probably think that Miles is either so lazy or stupid that he devotes more time to stressing the importance of keeping the ball safe, than he does coaching other skills that are necessary to develop winners.

Every coach in America stresses ball security. Miles is way too busy to devote that much time to the subject where a player would literally be afraid to ever take those risks.

Or maybe it has more do with how the fans booed Jennings after New Mexico St. Now you will obviously claim that y'all were booing Miles. But no way that a player will think that the boos are for the coach and not him, immediately after a negative play by the player.

The point is that you can assume a lot of things. Our assumptions are wrong more times than they our right. Especially when we try to assume things as fact, when they are theories we form to fill in the blanks.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:55 pm to
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Now Miles has beaten fear into his head and he'll never be the same.


I could swear LSU was paying Cam a healthy sum to be the OC and coach up the QBs. All I heard last yr. was how great Cam was and how he coached up Mett to being a NFL QB.

I guess all that was wrong and Cam only sits on his arse and eats candy bars during practice and games.

Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:09 pm to
Yeah we lost that game. Running game...strong defense and hit your shots down field when called.
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