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Joe Alleva said he never would have hired Jimbo Fisher

Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:41 am
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
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When LSU made the move to fire Les Miles during the 2016 season, a now-SEC coach was the name most commonly bandied about as Miles’ replacement with the Tigers.

While current LSU coach Ed Orgeron took over as the interim coach following Miles’ firing on Sept. 25, 2016, there were many folks who thought Orgeron was only going to be a placeholder coach until the end of the season when the school found a guy like Jimbo Fisher to take over the program.

On the surface, Fisher to LSU made a lot of sense. He was a former LSU assistant and was the team’s offensive coordinator when the Tigers won the national title over Notre Dame after the 2006 season before moving to Florida State.


But according to former LSU athletic director Joe Alleva, Fisher was never an option. Not even at the end of the 2015 season, when Miles’ grip on his job was tenuous as the Tigers beat Texas A&M 19-7 to cap off a 9-3 regular season.

From the Advocate:

“I still have a lot of friends in the ACC,” Alleva said. “I talked to them, and after that I didn’t want any part of Jimbo. I would never have hired Jimbo. He was never on my radar. Now, fans and some people in the department wanted him, but I never wanted him.

“I could have made a change (at the end of the 2015 season). I recommended not to. Because I would have been forced to hire Jimbo. I would rather have had Les. But if I didn’t hire him, the outcry would have been ridiculous. So we had that meeting during the (Texas A&M) game, and I made the recommendation to keep (Miles).”

Alleva also told the Advocate that he believed LSU could have hired Tom Herman after the 2016 but that he didn’t want to pay the salary that Herman would have demanded. Herman was finishing up his second season as Houston’s coach and went on to take over at Texas.

Fisher, meanwhile, got a $75 million contract from Texas A&M after the 2017 season. The athletic director who gave him that deal at A&M is a man by the name of Scott Woodward. He succeeded Alleva as LSU’s AD in the spring of 2019 after Alleva retired amidst the wiretapping scandal that had enveloped the basketball team.

Former LSU AD Joe Alleva (L) and Ed Orgeron in 2016. (AP Photo/Max Becherer)
Former LSU AD Joe Alleva (L) and Ed Orgeron in 2016. (AP Photo/Max Becherer)
Orgeron is 39-9 at LSU

It’s easy for Alleva to say that he never considered hiring Fisher now. Staying the course has obviously worked out well for LSU. A win on Monday gets LSU its first national title in 13 years and puts Orgeron at 40 wins in four seasons with the school. That would be a slightly better win rate than his predecessor. Miles had 114 wins in 12 seasons.

Orgeron’s hire also likely saved LSU some money in coaching salary. Orgeron took a salary less than what Fisher or Herman would have commanded and more money was put towards the assistant coaching salary pool. That allowed LSU to hire assistants like defensive coordinator Dave Aranda and helps the Tigers give passing game coordinator Joe Brady a hefty raise after this season.

Brady, the former New Orleans Saints assistant who has helped energize LSU’s offense in 2019, is finalizing a new deal with the Tigers.

“I do feel that Joe is going to be a Tiger,” Orgeron said on Dc. 31. “I feel like everything is just about wrapped up, and I feel good about where we are. You know football, you never can tell what's going to happen, but I feel confident saying Joe is going to be here with us at LSU. He's a great young man. We've just about got everything wrapped up. Not completely finalized yet, but we're very close.”

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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:43 am to
good
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:44 am to
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That would be a slightly better win rate than his predecessor. Miles had 114 wins in 12 seasons. Miles had 114 wins in 12 seasons.



Actually Miles had 112 wins in 11 seasons. Counting his 2-2 record as a 12th seasons is disingenuous.



And lol at Alleva trying to rewrite history. Friends in the ACC
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 9:45 am
Posted by LSUTrojan
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:46 am to
quote:

He was a former LSU assistant and was the team’s offensive coordinator when the Tigers won the national title over Notre Dame after the 2006 season before moving to Florida State.


Posted by hometownhero89
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:47 am to
my opinion hasn't changed. Frick him and F. King both. they made moves to keep a certain political atmosphere at the university. That wasn't what was best for the university at all, it was best for their agenda and their agenda alone.

Thankfully we finally got those stains out of our drawers.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:49 am to
The most ridiculous part of this story is the idea that Joe Alleva actually has friends
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:50 am to
95% of the people here thought hiring Jimbo was a good idea. Idiots, all of you.
Posted by PentagonTiger
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:51 am to
Makes sense. He was AD at Duke and did probably know a lot of athletic administrators in the ACC. Looking at Fisher's steady decline following Winston's departure, culminating in a 7-6 season his final year at Florida State, it is pretty obvious that Fisher is dangerously close to becoming a has been. Time will tell if he can avoid this at Texas A&M but, if his first two season are any indication, it was a good move to not hire him, especially for the money he was demanding.
Posted by Genestealer55
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:51 am to
Hindsight ...
Posted by Skillet
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:52 am to
Alleva was very awkward as the LSU AD, but he was spot on correct in his thoughts on Jimbo & Herman. Glad he's no longer the AD, but he deserves a lot of credit for all the success LSU is currently having in football.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:53 am to
By the way, do we give a frick what’s going through Joe Alleva’s mind these days? The piece is garbage.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:55 am to
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He was a former LSU assistant and was the team’s offensive coordinator when the Tigers won the national title over Notre Dame after the 2006 season before moving to Florida State.


So much journalisming.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:55 am to
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Counting his 2-2 record as a 12th seasons is disingenuous. 


Jesus christ..man..

Still, Les > Jimbo.
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:55 am to
I want to note that I told people all along he was never an option. I’ve been wrong about stuff before, but I’ve stated this all along.
Posted by tigersquad89
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:57 am to
It’s not popular around here but looking back Alleva made some extremely smart decisions.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:59 am to
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On the surface, Fisher to LSU made a lot of sense. He was a former LSU assistant and was the team’s offensive coordinator when the Tigers won the national title over Notre Dame after the 2006 season before moving to Florida State.


Wut?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:04 am to
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And lol at Alleva trying to rewrite history.


I'm glad we didn't hire Jimbo. I didn't think he would be a good fit here (perfect for A&M, though). But, it's mighty convenient to only hear Alleva say this AFTER A&M goes 7-5 and gets their assess kicked by us.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:04 am to
Alleva also said in that same interview that he made a mistake hiring Will Wade. He said he got some "bad advice" about Wade.
Posted by schwartzy
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:05 am to
Also why Joe sucked at his job. Hiring Fisher, at the time, would have been due diligence. He got lucky O worked out.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:16 am to
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Counting his 2-2 record as a 12th seasons is disingenuous.


Jesus christ..man..



It’s not disingenuous to include 4 games as a full season when talking about a coach’s average wins per year?



ETA:

quote:

RogerTheShrubber



Oh, it’s you
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 10:17 am
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